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Kain Darkwind wrote:These are really good. I notice you left out most of the Demon Lords, was this because of familiarity or something else?
I know we said wights for Orcus, but looking through, I think maybe bodaks (killed by the presence of absolute evil) or slaughter wights would be better instead.
Keveras wrote:I noticed that you did Gwynharwyf, but not Morwel and her consort. Are you planning to give them stats too, or will she remain the only Eladrin? The same goes for Barachiel and the other Tome Archons.
KingCrazyGenius wrote:Any plans on statting Miska or the Queen of Chaos, Kain?
KingCrazyGenius wrote:I smell Paizo wizardry about your latest post. How did she get the betrayal and draining kiss powers though, aside from the always possible "I just decided she got them" angle.
KingCrazyGenius wrote:Speaking of Hell, are you going to keep the 3e Alternate World set-up of Baal, Dispater, Mammon, Belial, Leviathan, Lilith, Beelzebub, Mephistopheles, and Asmodeus, or are you going to adopt the 4e setup where Belial and Fierana are far closer in power, Leviathan is humanoid, Glaysa rules the 6th Hell, Beelzebub is a slug, and Mephistopheles is hellfiery?
KingCrazyGenius wrote:Not laziness alone.
In both 3e and 4e they are described as sharing power, Fierna as the official ruler and Belial as the power behind the throne, with later sources indicating that Fierna is growing more and more ambitious. I personally cannot wait for her to overthrow and destroy/consume/imprison and siphon power away from her father once and for all.
I'm all for them being different, but I don't think Belial should necessarily be significantly more powerful than his daughter, if at all. Not anymore.
KingCrazyGenius wrote:That sounds incredibly lame. I always figured it was obvious that Asmodeus gave Fierana her increased power as a means of either propelling Belial into action (as he seems to be the least active and accomplished Lord) or else grooming a more suitable replacement. Unfortunately for the single-minded Belial, he seems to think he is still in the clear as long as he can dominate his daughter.
KingCrazyGenius wrote:It all sounds good, but brute power is what seperates the Lords from their lessers, not schemes and cunning. This is as true in D&D as it is in Alternate World as it is in GoH. Their mechanics don't represent devils who aren't much stronger than their lessers but have better mental scores, they represent devils who have 20-30 more hit dice/levels and a few powerful templates. In fact the only incarnation I've seen of Asmodeus where he seemed beatable by his lessers is in BoVD. It doesn't get any better in 4e, where Asmodeus is a full-fledged deity and the other lords are not, and thus have no chance of beating him.
The situation may not be as bad amongst the common devils compared to the Lords of the First through Eighth though. Pit fiends are 27th level elites, and I don't see more than two of the lords being above 33rd level if even that far.
KingCrazyGenius wrote:It's his +9 King of Hell bonus to everything and his hextuple (or is it sextuple?) hit points that give him the appearance of invincibility, not his schemes. If you didn't have that tasty little mechanic I'd probably concede the argument right now and give you props on you making a more interesting Asmodeus than most have pulled off.
KingCrazyGenius wrote:While all eight of the Lords combined could defeat him, Asmodeus would wipe the floor if it were just two or three at once. The only Lords I can see actually joining forces to beat up on Asmodeus would be Lilith and Mephistopheles, Baal has other things on his mind, Dispater is a coward who would never try it, no one trusts Mammon or Leviathan, and Belial and Beelzebub would be working against Lilith and Mephisto.
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