Unique Entities Discussion Thread

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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Kain Darkwind » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:29 am

Set needs 3 6th level spells, 1 5th level spell and 1 1st level spell. Suggestions (or spell swaps for existing choices) are welcome. Sources are SRD, Spell Compendium and Sandstorm if those spells aren't in the Spell Compendium. Theme first, power second.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby WarDragon » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:10 pm

Some possible choices.

1st: cheat, fist of stone, hail of stone, nightshield, parching touch, sunstroke, wall of smoke
5th: choking sands, cyclonic blast, dispel water, flaywind burst, flesh to salt, graymantle, miasma of entropy, night's caress, shadow form, shadow hand, spiritwall, unearthly heat, wrack
6th: ashen union, aura of terror, control water, flesh to stone, geas/quest, mass contagion, mislead, mass dessicate, revive undead, shadowy grappler, spectral touch, symbol of persuasion, symbol of thirst
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby WarDragon » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:18 pm

Vigilante biker angels? Can I say YES loudly enough?
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Glabrezubane » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:30 pm

Is Holy Tongue your version of Words of Creation that just happens to sound more suggestive, Kain?
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Kain Darkwind » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:34 pm

Glabrezubane wrote:Is Holy Tongue your version of Words of Creation that just happens to sound more suggestive, Kain?


Yes. The feat is functionally identical. However, Holy Tongue conveys the ideas of goodness, while Words of Creation are more evocative of an omnipotent Creator, truespeech, Aleph, or the lost tongue of Babel. Thus I changed the name.


WarDragon wrote:Vigilante biker angels? Can I say YES loudly enough?


I have every faith that you can.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Wintermute » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:39 pm

Nice pick on the Within Temptation song, Kain.

Also, what WD said.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Ryu Hayabusa » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:59 am

What's the reference behind those biker angels or whatever they are?
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby KingCrazyGenius » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:07 pm

The biker angels need some kind of mount. Either they just come with one in every fight, or the ability to summon one. It can either be a living thing, a contruct, or a true vehicle.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Kain Darkwind » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:10 pm

Ryu Hayabusa wrote:What's the reference behind those biker angels or whatever they are?



:| The song. Angels. By Within Temptation. Included in the first statblock.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby KingCrazyGenius » Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:32 pm

Seriously? Only one domain for Ares? Is there some Alternate World rule concerning the number of domains that I missed?
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Kain Darkwind » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:35 pm

KingCrazyGenius wrote:Seriously? Only one domain for Ares? Is there some Alternate World rule concerning the number of domains that I missed?


No. But I did him late at night and hurried. Clearly I missed a few things.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby KingCrazyGenius » Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:31 pm

It seems your Zeus doesn't have class levels at all. Just outsider hit dice but with a d12. He also lacks the Chaos domain.

I approve whole-heartily. Do you have similar plans for his siblings?
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Crazy Art » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:51 pm

Ares and Mars aren't equivalent?
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby KingCrazyGenius » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:34 pm

Crazy Art wrote:Ares and Mars aren't equivalent?

Ares is a murderous coward and is pretty much hated by everyone in Olympus, reflecting most Greek's general disdain for warfare. Mars, on the other hand, is an invincible champion and an honored son of Jupiter, reflecting the Roman's far more positive outlook on the glory of battle and conquest.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Kain Darkwind » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:13 pm

KingCrazyGenius wrote:It seems your Zeus doesn't have class levels at all. Just outsider hit dice but with a d12. He also lacks the Chaos domain.

I approve whole-heartily. Do you have similar plans for his siblings?


Zeus began stat-life as a gestalt barbarian/warlock. I was going to modify the invocations and eldritch blast to better show his divine power and lightning bolts.

However, through the statting process, I realized he really didn't need rage, his invocations were utterly superseded by Alter Reality and no class's abilities suit him entirely. Warlock, for instance, has a lot that is needed to be a balanced PC class, but that is completely pimped by his divine powers. So I kept the d12, 4 skill points and gave him all good saves and divine grace.

Poseidon is currently drafted as a barbarian/druid atm, and Hades as a duskblade/hexblade. Not sure if I'll keep that or not.

Even stripped of his class levels, Zeus is insanely powerful. He compares closer to the Lady of Pain than to Asmodeus. Not sure at the moment if I need to change that or not. Even Ares and Mars seem to have sickeningly high attack and AC.


Crazy Art wrote:Ares and Mars aren't equivalent?


What KCG said, for starters. Once I began the research on Mars compared to Ares, I almost wondered if I hadn't messed up by making Mars intermediate. He was second only to Jove/Jupiter in Roman worship.

Ares was the god of battle (bloodlust and slaughter), where as Pallas Athena was the goddess of war (strategy and tactics). He was never as cool to the Greeks as he was to the DCU or Xena series.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby WarDragon » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:15 pm

I find Odin to be appropriately badass. Did you use another class to get him his d10?
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Kain Darkwind » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:35 pm

WarDragon wrote:I find Odin to be appropriately badass. Did you use another class to get him his d10?



Fighter/wizard. Also where all his extra feats come from and his +12 atk/dmg with Gungnir.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby WarDragon » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:50 am

Are Black Knight and Hunter of the Night from that same MMORPG you play? And that's a... pretty radical departure from the Brother Justice of Demonwars.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Kain Darkwind » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:42 am

WarDragon wrote:Are Black Knight and Hunter of the Night from that same MMORPG you play? And that's a... pretty radical departure from the Brother Justice of Demonwars.


He's not Brother Justice of Demonwars, Brother Justice existed long before I read that novel.

And no, the Dark Knight and Hunter of the Night are not out of Adventure Quest. Originals, although obviously the concepts are hardly original.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Jaerc » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:34 pm

Remind me, do you have Alternate Warcraft builds?
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby KingCrazyGenius » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:36 pm

He has some, but I think they are all in the Warcraft d20 thread.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Kain Darkwind » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:08 am

KCG is correct. Both Phaedros' and my own builds are in that thread.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby necromental » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:35 pm

Sorry if i'm interupting anything, and falling out of the sky, but who is Baron Anomoulus? I've been a lurker, even on the old website but didn't find anything about him. One of Merorem's servants? And (because of my special materials fetish) what are properties of quicksilver(his weapon and armor are made of it)? I've found true quicksilver here, but that's not it.

Thanks in advance(wow it rhymes).
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby Kain Darkwind » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:42 pm

necromental wrote:Sorry if i'm interupting anything, and falling out of the sky, but who is Baron Anomoulus? I've been a lurker, even on the old website but didn't find anything about him. One of Merorem's servants?


Yes, he was once a paladin-type (CG) who sold his soul to Merorem in order to save his sister from a demon lord. Merorem went back to his sister's birth and stole her soul, preventing the demon lord from ever even knowing about her. The change removed most of the emotions and empathy that had made him good to begin with, and he began his service in Merorem's employ. He's served by Magus William, who was another foolish mortal who thought to bring honor upon his head, but only gained servitude to Merorem. The magus is currently in the form of a lemure these days, I believe.

And (because of my special materials fetish) what are properties of quicksilver(his weapon and armor are made of it)? I've found true quicksilver here, but that's not it.


It most likely is true quicksilver. Just because I don't write it all out doesn't mean it isn't the case.

Thanks in advance(wow it rhymes).


You must have a weird accent then.
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Re: Unique Entities Discussion Thread

Postby necromental » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:45 pm

Corrupted Croatian-English?

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