InterChange Transcript
Project II, Group 3
2/2/95

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Irfan M. Murtuza:
Hey everyone, this is Irfan. My paper is on e-mail so you guys can look at it from there. By the way who else is in the group?

Jaime Ross:
I am in this group but I only have a print-out of it because I could not get into e-mail yesterday.

Irfan M. Murtuza:
That' okay I'll just go over there and get it.

Vanessa Liou:
hi, my email account was also messed up...i didn't get to finish the paper tho...

Irfan M. Murtuza:
Vanessa do you have a disk or a printout?

Vanessa Liou:
i did part of it through another account

Vanessa Liou:
so it's in email...but not the right email address...

Wayne Butler:
Ok, the first thing you folks are going to need to do is figure out how you are going to share one another's texts.
You have several options:
1. You can exchange print outs if you have them.
2. You can read one another's drafts on e-mail.
3. You can exchange floppy diskettes and read the files in MS Word.
Once you have figured out how to exchange texts, take about 15 minutes or so to read one another's drafts.

Then,return to InterChange and begin a discussion of one another's drafts. Your goal is to collaboratively develop feedback for each writer that will help the writer expand, focus, structure or generally improve the draft.

Make sure you break up the time equally for each writer. You might structure your "conversation" around the following:
1. What works in the draft? What is your favorite part?
2. As a reader, what else would you like to know? Where within the draft could you as a reader use more information?
3. Given our on-line conversation the other day about "good writing," what would you say this draft needs to become a good peice of writing?

Also, the writers should feel free to ask questions. Often the writers' own questions about their drafts can help guide the feedback conversation.

Irfan M. Murtuza:
Jaime it's not as rought as you think, your writing let me understand the nature of the IRC. One thing in particular I liked about your paper is how you first came Into USA and felt a little overwhelmed by all the traffic and then by the end when you discovered "it's a small world after all" even on the IRC" when you stumbled on your friend from high school. There's more good stuff just let me read a little more.

Irfan M. Murtuza:
Vanessa how can I get to read your paper?

Vanessa Liou:
Irfan: I like your examples, the way they strengthen your points...

do u think i can email that part of my paper? it's really short but...

Irfan M. Murtuza:
Vanessa, sure go ahead. Why not? I think everyone's drafts are a little rough right now, so there's nothing to worry about. If you're going to send it just to me, my e-mail account is imurtuza@umich.edu

Wayne Butler:
Remember folks, for this first round of feedback on first drafts, we want to focus on content, focus, structure, and organization rather than sentence level concerns such as clarity, style, and correctness.

Irfan M. Murtuza:
Jaime, has some smooth flow to it. One thing I'd like to hear more about is was their any kind of power hierarchy going on, did anyone seem to have any more authority or the "final say" on a topic?

Jaime Ross:
Ifran- Even though your paper is not completly finished I like what you have done. From the first paragraph it was very informative in letting me know what your usenet channel was all about. It sounds like something very intersting and your paper was very easy to follow. The most interesring parts lie in the conversations and the questions posted. These examples help to make the description of your channel much more realistic.

I know you are not done and you probebly already have ideas as to what else you are going to put in. As a reader... I would like to know what your personal involvement was. Did you post anything? Did you respond to anyone? Did you bond with anyone in particular ? These are just a few questions that you might want to address.

Overall, I thought the paper was good.

Jaime Ross:
Vanessa - is there anyway that you could send your essay to me?

Vanessa Liou:
what is your email addresses?

Vanessa Liou:
are...make that are

Jaime Ross:
jsross@umich.edu

Becky Rickly:
Jaime--I like your "reader responses"--I'd be interested to know how the author did/didn't feel welcome, etc., too.

Irfan M. Murtuza:
Ijust hooked on to the newsgroup for the first time yesterday so there is a lot more I gotta' observe. There was some kinda' problem with the server at the Union so I could not post anything but I'll be doing that and interract with some people during the upcoming week. Oh by the way the name is Irfan not "Ifran." Probably just a typo.(-:

Jaime Ross:
Irfan-sorry about the name I really did not mean that =:)

Vanessa Liou:
i've emailed my essay

Vanessa Liou:
irfan:
I like how you described your process of finding the right newsgroup to join and how you determined your choice. The examples from the newsgroup seems to prove that your choice was also a good representation for your essay. You also point out certain negative aspects of the usenet as well as the positive which allows readers to analyse both sides. I'd like to know if you had any personal experiences or interactions with this newsgroup?

Vanessa Liou:
Jaime:
Can I read your printout? :)

Jaime Ross:
Vanessa- I thought the first part of your paper was very informative. You gave the reader a lot of information to help them understand what IRC is and what is available through IRC. The first three paragraphs were spent on the introduction of IRC, within the next one I would introduce the channel you have joined and let us know what it is all about.

Good job so far :-)

Jaime Ross:
Vanessa- Yes you can. Irfan has it.

Irfan M. Murtuza:
Hey Vanessa, I like the start so far. For someone who has never spent any significant time on the IRC the background you gave me helped me understand a little better what the IRC is all about. It looks to me like you're ready to go this week for some intense chat sessions. With that you give us some real-life examples of what you experienced and how you were treated. Good luck.

Wayne Butler:
Has anyone figured out how to capture transcripts of IRC sessions, yet? If so, please share your tips and techniques with the whole class on infohighway. Seems we have a lot of folks doing IRC and they might be interested in the information.

Jaime Ross:
Has anyone in this group found out a way to save IRC sessions? I know I have not. The imporntant ones I uasually remember in my head or write it down.

Jaime Ross:
I just realized that I repeated his question sorry. :-)

Vanessa Liou:
jaime: I like the way you personalize your own experiences, you give a very good point of view of the new user, you include the difficulties, your process of adjustment, what you found peculiar and different from an actual face to face conversation. You have a very complete and interesting account of your experience and it's written so it's very easy to follow along. I thought it was written very well (-8

Irfan M. Murtuza:
Jaime and Vanessa,
That's why I picked UseNet, because it's easy to paste stuff right into your paper. If you guys find a way to put the highlight of some conversations I think that it would really strengthen your papers. Of course this is probably obvious to you guys but I had nothing else to say. I'm hungry

Jaime Ross:
I am hungry also and my eyes hurt!

Vanessa Liou:
I found the Homer program to be handy in copying and pasting the information. With telnet, once the screen passes, the text is wiped out. The Homer program keeps all the text typed in each channel.

Vanessa Liou:
hehe

Jaime Ross:
Is Homer through IRC? I have not had a lot of time to fool around with the different programs

Vanessa Liou:
you can get it through the communications folder in the Mac archives....it's much easier to follow through

Jaime Ross:
thanks.

Vanessa Liou:
sure : )

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