InterChange Transcript
Project II, Group 1, 2/2/95

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Nicole Cooklin:
hello!!!

Nicole Cooklin:
Who else is in this group?

Kelly Kloustin:
i am

Kelly Kloustin:
how would you like to do this?

Nicole Cooklin:
good bye, I'm leaving this group now!!! :-)

Amanda Read:
Sorry it took me so long but I am on now.

Kelly Kloustin:
do you want to exchange them via paper or computer?

Kelly Kloustin:
we should have another person out there somewhere...

Todd Dubinsky:
I am also in the group

Amanda Read:
Kelly, I don't know what happened to Nicole? Anyway, I have not turned in any part of my paper yet. I hope that you don't want to kill me for this.

Kelly Kloustin:
well we won't kill you, we may torture you for a while though.... : )

Todd Dubinsky:
Have you not turned it in, or have you not started it?

Kelly Kloustin:
todd, how would you like to do this? paper or computer?

Todd Dubinsky:
computer sounds fine....we both have our papers in mailstrom.

Kelly Kloustin:
do you guys know how to copy and paste and all that?

Amanda Read:
I have done a great deal of research but not written anything formally yet. I have probably spent too much time on the conference line and not enough writing. I am sorry, I feel really bad.

Todd Dubinsky:
Don't worry about it.

Todd Dubinsky:
Kelly, I know how to cut and paste, but it is more convient to just open mailstrom and read it from there.

Kelly Kloustin:
amanda : don't feel bad we had a very very short amoutn of time to do research and write the paper....

Amanda Read:
So are you guys going to post your papers on interchange or should we open up our email?

Todd Dubinsky:
open up your e-mail through mailstrom

Kelly Kloustin:
todd you're right...ok I'm going to read yours now and i'll get back with you aafter I've read it.

Wayne Butler:
Ok, the first thing you folks are going to need to do is figure out how you are going to share one another's texts. You have several options:
1. You can exchange print outs if you have them.
2. You can read one another's drafts on e-mail.
3. You can exchange floppy diskettes and read the files in MS Word.

Once you have figured out how to exchange texts, take about 15 minutes or so to read one another's drafts.

Then,return to InterChange and begin a discussion of one another's drafts. Your goal is to collaboratively develop feedback for each writer that will help the writer expand, focus, structure or generally improve the draft.

Make sure you break up the time equally for each writer. You might structure your "conversation" around the following:
1. What works in the draft? What is your favorite part?
2. As a reader, what else would you like to know? Where within the draft could you as a reader use more information?
3. Given our on-line conversation the other day about "good writing," what would you say this draft needs to become a good peice of writing?

Also, the writers should feel free to ask questions. Often the writers' own questions about their drafts can help guide the feedback conversation.

Kelly Kloustin:
todd:cool intro, unfortunately you won't find mind quite that creative

Amanda Read:
Okay, I have read your paper Todd and I am quite impressed. I really like how you used a quote from the song in the very beginning.

Kelly Kloustin:
todd: good analogy to dead heads being a community of their own with computer communities.

Kelly Kloustin:
a word of warning to you both; i have no conclusion for my paper as soon as i got to a certain # of pages i just quit...

Wayne Butler:
Remember folks, for this first round of feedback on first drafts, we want to focus on content, focus, structure, and organization rather than sentence level concerns such as clarity, style, and correctness.

Todd Dubinsky:
Is everyone done?

Kelly Kloustin:
todd; good use of quotes from the newsgroup, and good explanation of a typical situation on your newsgroup. yes i'm done reading your essay.

Amanda Read:
Todd, maybe it would be a good idea if you said a little bit about the newsgroup (where the people are from, how many people participate, ect..) in between the first and second paragraphs? I am not sure exactly what but I think the paper would be stronger if there was some sort of a tie here?

Todd Dubinsky:
Kelly, I though you did a fine job at analyzing the irc channel. As you can see, my paper just ends also. I have another four pages to go. It doesn't seem like you need that much more, but a conclusion would be nice. I liked the way you compared chatting to graffitti. It was really interesting

Kelly Kloustin:
you may also want to add why, with thousands of newsgroups out there, that you chose this group , because of personal taste or is it very active or whatever the case may be

Amanda Read:
I am done reading Todd's paper but I have found that I need to go back and reread much of it before I have good feedback. Should I switch and read Kelly's paper or are we going to work on Todd's for now? Not that it really needs much work.

Todd Dubinsky:
I don't know if there is a formal way to do this.

Kelly Kloustin:
todd; i realize that we are in the same boat as far as finishing things, but what did you think about clarity, did I go off subject or wander or say something that made no sense at any point. i didn't even bother to proofread it last night cuz I was so tired.

Kelly Kloustin:
just for kicks I think i'm going to reread my own to see if it makes any sense..

Todd Dubinsky:
I can tell that you didn't proofread it because there are simple errors that you would have picked up on. I think the essay is rather clear and on topic. There are some places where commas would come in handy.

Kelly Kloustin:
please bear in mind that when you translate stuff form word 5 into email somethings like quotation marks get srewy..

Todd Dubinsky:
I was able to tell that. One thing that you can add to your paper is exerpts from the channel. It's not necessary, but would kind of be cool to see. Maybe something funny or an argument or maybe just analyze one person on the channel.

Amanda Read:
Kelly, I like the idea of graffitti on bathroom walls!

Todd Dubinsky:
I liked this sentence too "Like space, it is vast and expansive, as well as having a few black holes. "

Kelly Kloustin:
does it flow well or do I break off with something unrelated at any point? I already have seen the spelling errors..

Kelly Kloustin:
does any on else find this somewhat boring?

Kelly Kloustin:
i will try to make my paper a little less dry, but when I wrote it I was just trying to answer the questions he gave us , so I know I need more creativity.

Todd Dubinsky:
I do...I think the interchange is effective for many things such as debate, but when we are sitting in same rooms with each other and have copiesof our papers, there is no point to peer-conferencing online.

Amanda Read:
Kelly, I really like your paper so far. I don't find it boring at all but yes I find this class pretty boring today.

What's UP:
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kelly Kloustin:
i agree, it would be much easier to tell you to your face then have to type it out.

Todd Dubinsky:
I agree with you also, Kelly. Who is What's UP?

Amanda Read:
Fortunately it is almost time to go but it is not soon enough

Todd Dubinsky:
Oh, I didn't even realize....what a pleasant surprise. Thanx Amanda.

Kelly Kloustin:
i don't know, that just proves tht someon ele here is bored. are we doing this the whole class period?

Amanda Read:
I was wondering who What's Up is also.

Kelly Kloustin:
yippee it's almost 11:30

Wayne Butler:
Has anyone figured out how to capture transcripts of IRC sessions, yet? If so, please share your tips and techniques with the whole class on infohighway. Seems we have a lot of folks doing IRC and they might be interested in the information.

Kelly Kloustin:
is there a way to find out who an alias really is?

Todd Dubinsky:
I like this class because it is interesting and it goes quickly. It's only a three hour a week class, but is worth four credits.

Kelly Kloustin:
yes i like it too, but i think he makes up for that hour by giving us a lot to do.it takes a lot of time at least on the irc to observe any [patterns.

Amanda Read:
Okay, seeing as I did not write a paper I will tell you guys about the group I have joined. (We are bored right?) I joined a group call "beer" on usenet. I joined it because I will be starting a my own brew in my dorm room soon. I am making beer for my biology class. This project is worth an exam!!! Pretty cool isn't it?

Todd Dubinsky:
Yes, you're right.

Kelly Kloustin:
only at college.....which bio class is that sign me up!

Amanda Read:
I am taking biology 106. It is a practical applications of biology class.

Todd Dubinsky:
Is getting drunk a recommended or required thing?

Todd Dubinsky:
Sounds pretty practical to me.

Kelly Kloustin:
no kidding,what's more practical than making your own beer!

Amanda Read:
I have posted a request for any tastey recipes on usenet and need to check soon to see if anyone has sent any.

Kelly Kloustin:
todd; who are you guys paired up with for greek week?

Amanda Read:
Oh yeah, we get drunk at this little potluck that we have in March. Some people make mead, some wine, some beer and some provide the organic foods.

Todd Dubinsky:
It's like the teacher said to the class, "You have homework to night. You have to chug six of these cans we call beer." And then the class responded, "Can we have more homework, professor?"

Amanda Read:
Are you guys both really into the greek system here?

Todd Dubinsky:
I am in Alpha Epsilon Pi, and am pared up with Sigma Delta Tau.

Kelly Kloustin:
yep i work in the office of greek life and i'm on jr.panhel which is an association here of the different sororities. todd who are you paired up with?

Kelly Kloustin:
amanda: have you thought about rushing ?

Amanda Read: Kelly, what house are you in?

Todd Dubinsky: The greek system is ok. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, but it definately isn't my life.

Kelly Kloustin: i'm in alpha xi delta

Kelly Kloustin: i'm in alpha xi delta

Amanda Read: I have thought about it. I am not too sure about it though. I am definatley considering it for next year.

Kelly Kloustin: oops

Todd Dubinsky: time to go Yupppe!!!!!

Kelly Kloustin: you should i never have to worry about not having something to do onthe weekends, it doesn't mean that i spend all of my life with it either.

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Modified: 3/4/95