BTRVETC-L Digest Volume 98 : Issue 69 23 Oct 1998 Today's Topics: Rightson TURNER, 1815-1863 Re: Post Offices Brurnett help needed Re: Margraet (Peggy) Burnett- 1827-1864 Reposting info re: LDS CDs Re: Reposting info re: LDS CDs Re: Brurnett help needed Re: Reposting info re: LDS CDs Reposting info re: LDS CDs Re: Reposting info re: LDS CDs LDS Family History Resource Series Quick Shots ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:04:31 EDT From: HRDgaryt@aol.com To: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org Subject: Rightson TURNER, 1815-1863 Message-ID: <693399e1.362c8a5f@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'm searching for information on Rightson Monroe Turner, b. 1815 in Maryland, farming in Franklin County Indiana by 1840, moved to Amazonia, MO in c. 1858, died 1863. Is there anyone with Turner roots in Maryland that can give me some leads to his father and mother? Thanks, Gary Turner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:38:01 PDT From: "Mary Smith" To: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org Subject: Re: Post Offices Message-ID: <19981020183801.981.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Jim: I don't know if this will answer your question, but "Virginia Postmasters & Post Offices 1789-1832," compiled by Edith Axelsom, lists the following post offices in Patrick Co.: Ararat (est. May 1825); Bakersville (est. Feb 1817, discontinued 1822); Hairston's Store (est. as Corn's Store Dec 1816, changed to Hairston's Mar 1820, discontinued Jun 1824); Patrick Court House; & Penn's Store. John Wood's 1816 map also shows a post office at Hine's Mill. I don't know which one might have been closest to Patrick Springs. Mary C. Smith >From btrvetc-l-request@genealogy.org Sun Oct 18 19:54:08 1998 >Received: (qmail 20337 invoked by uid 531); 19 Oct 1998 02:54:09 -0000 >Resent-Date: 19 Oct 1998 02:54:08 -0000 >Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; >From: "Jim Spencer" >To: , >Subject: Post Offices >Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:41:34 -0700 >Message-ID: <000001bdfb23$21f874c0$8b4d82d0@default> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 >Importance: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 >Resent-Message-ID: <"5cwl11.0.az4.GdgAs"@genealogy> >Resent-From: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org >Reply-To: BTRVETC-L >X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/504 >X-Loop: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: btrvetc-l-request@genealogy.org > >Can someone tell me what the name of the post office was at the current >Patrick Springs, Virginia location. I know that Patrick Springs became a >post office in 1925 and that prior to that it was called Shuff, Virginia and >prior to that it was called Spa Brook Station, Virginia. What I need to >know is the name of the post office for that area prior to that, or what was >the name of the closest post office to that area. > >/s/ Jim Spencer > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:53:31 -0400 From: "Eunice B. Kirkman" To: "BTRVETC List" Subject: Brurnett help needed Message-ID: <013d01bdfd77$cef462a0$3af463ce@ekirkman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm passing this on from ROOTS-L. Thought maybe some of you Burnette researchers could help her. From: backwood@netins.net Subject: Thomas Barnett & Sarah Barrett Thomas Barnett was born about 1764 in Maryland or Virginia, was orphaned at age 7 and was married in 1795 to Sarah Barrett, daughter of Arthur and Elizabeth (Baldwin) Barrett. They had a family of 12 children--8 girls and 4 boys. Each of the sons carried Barrett as a middle name. My great-grandfather was Enos Barrett Barnett who was married first to Mary Hiatt and second to Eliza Jane Broyles. Enos was born in Harrison Co., Ohio, migrated to Ringgold Co., IA for awhile, then to Mercer Co., MO where he died and is buried. Thomas Barnett is really my big question. Who were his parents and where and when was he born. I have the Bible record from the Barrett Bible about his marriage to Sarah, but where were they married. They were living in Frederick Co., VA. Sarah's father was Quaker and her mother was Methodist. My grandfather said that he thought Thomas was born in Maryland and that he was brought to VA by friends--could it have been Friends, meaning Quakers. Thank you for any help. Jennie backwood@netins.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:36:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Christine Gaunt To: MAMB43@aol.com cc: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Re: Margraet (Peggy) Burnett- 1827-1864 Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Mamie, I don't have the answer to your query, but perhaps someone on the Burnett/Turner/Via/Ross/Etc list does. I'm taking the liberty of Cc'ing to the list; hope you don't mind. :-) Chris On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 MAMB43@aol.com wrote: > Hi, I am looking for this lades parents, she was born in Indiana and died > there. I believe she had a brother by the name of John, and her father may > have been John also. She married my mothers great grandfather, in Washington > County Indiana, Andrew Gullett. Thanks Mamie > Christine Gaunt, cgaunt@umich.edu or gaunt@genealogy.org Campbell-L and BTRVETC-L listowner Co-compiler of Genealogy Resources on the Internet Web: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gen_int1.html File (2.4M): via autoreply from gresinet.txt@genealogy.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:14:25 -0400 From: "Eunice B. Kirkman" To: "ROOTS-L" Cc: "BTRVETC List" , "VA-ROOTS" Subject: Reposting info re: LDS CDs Message-ID: <00cd01bdfdd2$c661ce60$7bf463ce@ekirkman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've received so many different questions regarding these sets that I'll repost all of it. I ordered both sets, but the North American set will not be shipped for two more weeks, so I can't answer questions about it. I did receive the British Vital Records yesterday and I am very pleased with them! These disks hold much more than just a list of names. I was able to trace three of my ancestors, find their marriage record, then find a list of their children. And, most important, you know that these are the actual records. You must have a Pentium processor, Windows 95 or 98, at least 16MB RAM, and 20MB of hard disk space. Each set comes with a program called Resource File Viewer that can be used with both sets. It is simple to install, and it is very simple to do the searches. You can't beat the prices! Broderbund will turn green with envy! Church Distribution Center 1999 West 1700 South Salt Lake City, Utah 84104-4233 (800) 537-5950 British Vital Records Index (1538-1888), (Item #50028) 5 CDs, Price: $15 This product is an index to parish registers, civil registration records and other records collections in parts of England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland. Nearly five million names. Four CDs contain birth and christening records; one CD lists marriages. Set of 5 CDs $15 US North American Vital Records Index (1620-1888), (Item #50029) 7 CDs, Price: $19 This product is an index to church and civil records and some other records collections in partsof the United States and Canada. Nearly five million names. Six CDs contain marriage records;one CD lists births and christenings. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:36:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Christine Gaunt To: "Eunice B. Kirkman" cc: ROOTS-L , BTRVETC List , VA-ROOTS Subject: Re: Reposting info re: LDS CDs Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just ordered all of their CDs and was told that both the North American Vital Records Index and the British Vital Records Index are on back order. The total came to $73.14. :-) Check out their web page at: http://lds.org/en/4_News_Update/19980929_Genealogy_PR.html for more details on the CDs. Chris Christine Gaunt, cgaunt@umich.edu or gaunt@genealogy.org Campbell-L and BTRVETC-L listowner Co-compiler of Genealogy Resources on the Internet Web: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gen_int1.html On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Eunice B. Kirkman wrote: > I've received so many different questions regarding these sets that I'll > repost all of it. I ordered both sets, but the North American set will not > be shipped for two more weeks, so I can't answer questions about it. I did > receive the British Vital Records yesterday and I am very pleased with > them! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:41:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Christine Gaunt To: "Eunice B. Kirkman" cc: BTRVETC List Subject: Re: Brurnett help needed Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Eunice, There are also Barnett and Barett mailing lists - check the "B" mailing list web site at: http://members.aol.com/gfsjohnf/gen_mail_surnames-b.html It's about 188K -- good thing the Ba's are near the top. :-) Chris Christine Gaunt, cgaunt@umich.edu or gaunt@genealogy.org Campbell-L and BTRVETC-L listowner Co-compiler of Genealogy Resources on the Internet Web: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gen_int1.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:17:44 -0400 From: "Eunice B. Kirkman" To: "BTRVETC-L" Subject: Re: Reposting info re: LDS CDs Message-ID: <006401bdfe03$fe79e400$6df463ce@ekirkman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops, you ordered all of them, I only ordered two sets. But heavens, the price is certainly right. The British set is fantastic. Broderbund should have such quality at such a price. -----Original Message----- From: Christine Gaunt To: Eunice B. Kirkman Cc: ROOTS-L ; BTRVETC List ; VA-ROOTS Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Reposting info re: LDS CDs >I just ordered all of their CDs and was told that both the North American >Vital Records Index and the British Vital Records Index are on back order. >The total came to $73.14. :-) > >Check out their web page at: > >http://lds.org/en/4_News_Update/19980929_Genealogy_PR.html > >for more details on the CDs. > >Chris >Christine Gaunt, cgaunt@umich.edu or gaunt@genealogy.org >Campbell-L and BTRVETC-L listowner >Co-compiler of Genealogy Resources on the Internet > Web: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gen_int1.html > >On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Eunice B. Kirkman wrote: > >> I've received so many different questions regarding these sets that I'll >> repost all of it. I ordered both sets, but the North American set will not >> be shipped for two more weeks, so I can't answer questions about it. I did >> receive the British Vital Records yesterday and I am very pleased with >> them! > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:52:14 -0400 From: "Eunice B. Kirkman" To: "ROOTS-L" Cc: "VA-ROOTS" , "BTRVETC List" Subject: Reposting info re: LDS CDs Message-ID: <00a901bdfe06$4c72e920$6df463ce@ekirkman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The LDS has more than one set of records, Christine ordered all of them. I only ordered the North american and the British Vital Records totaling $34. The URL gives all of the info re: all sets. --------------------------------------- X-Message: #8 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:36:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Christine Gaunt Subject: Re: Reposting info re: LDS CDs "I just ordered all of their CDs and was told that both the North American Vital Records Index and the British Vital Records Index are on back order. The total came to $73.14. :-)" Check out their web page at: http://lds.org/en/4_News_Update/19980929_Genealogy_PR.html for more details on the CDs. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:40:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Christine Gaunt To: VA-ROOTS , BTRVETC List , ROOTS-L Subject: Re: Reposting info re: LDS CDs Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Folks, I was writing my previous message while on my lunch break at work, so it was a bit short. I should have emphasized the word "all", but didn't. There are 5 CDs (sets?) available from the LDS, not just the new ones. >From the web page: British Vital Records Index (1538-1888), (Item #50028) 5 CDs, Price: $15 (new; on back order) North American Vital Records Index (1620-1888), (Item #50029) 7 CDs, Price: $19 (new; on back order) Family History SourceGuideT, (Item #50176), Price: $10 1851 British Census, (Item #50096) 1 CD, Price: $5 Australian Vital Records Index (1788-1905), (Item #50095) 4 CDs, Price: $20 Also mentioned on the same web page are the CDs they have in the works: the 1880 U.S. Census and the 1881 British Census, expected out in early 1999. The CDs are made from microfilmed records, the data from which is not copyrighted, but the resulting CD is, as "The resulting data is then indexed, and in the case of the vital record indexes, automated into valuable resource files that improve ease of access and save time for family history devotees." I only mention this because I'd hate to start seeing exerpts from these CDs appearing on web sites.... Also, as with *any* extraction of data from records, there undoubtedly are errors. The CDs will help to find resources, but I'll still be writing for copies of the originals. :-) That URL again is http://lds.org/en/4_News_Update/19980929_Genealogy_PR.html Chris Christine Gaunt, cgaunt@umich.edu or gaunt@genealogy.org Campbell-L and BTRVETC-L listowner Co-compiler of Genealogy Resources on the Internet Web: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gen_int1.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:01:58 -0400 From: "Eunice B. Kirkman" To: "ROOTS-L" Cc: "VA-ROOTS" , "BTRVETC List" Subject: LDS Family History Resource Series Message-ID: <000001bdfe32$dbb2f400$b7f463ce@ekirkman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Items from the Family History Resource File CD-ROM Series are available from: Church Distribution Center 1999 West 1700 South Salt Lake City, Utah 84104-4233 U.S.A. Telephone: 800-537-5971 [from the U.S. or Canada] 801-240-1126 [international] FAX orders: 801-240-3685 Product description: · British Vital Records Index (1538-1888), (Item #50028) 5 CDs, Price: $15 This product is an index to parish registers, civil registration records and other records collections in parts of England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland. Nearly five million names. Four CDs contain birth and christening records; one CD lists marriages. · North American Vital Records Index (1620-1888), (Item #50029) 7 CDs, Price: $19 This product is an index to church and civil records and some other records collections in parts of the United States and Canada. Nearly five million names. Six CDs contain marriage records; one CD lists births and christenings. · Family History SourceGuide , (Item #50176), Price: $10 The first automated Windows product of its kind for the Church, SourceGuide is an automated research guide. Product does not show information about individuals, but will help the researcher by listing the types of records and sources needed to find the requested information. CD is designed for those who know basic information about their ancestors, but now need to search original sources to complete their personal records. Also compiles information from more than 150 research guides developed at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah. · 1851 British Census, (Item #50096) 1 CD, Price: $5 This product is an index to the census records of Devon, Norfolk, and Warwick counties only. About 1.5 million names were transcribed from original census returns. Includes such information as a person's name, relationship to head of household, sex, age, occupation, birthplace, and residence. · Australian Vital Records Index (1788-1905), (Item #50095) 4 CDs, Price: $20 This product is an index to records from New South Wales (1788-1888), Tasmania (1803-1899), Victoria (1837-1888), and Western Australia (1841-1905). The index contains about 4.5 million records of births, christenings, marriages, and deaths. For more information, contact Dan Rascon 801-240-1977 or Paul Nauta 801-240-6498. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:40:32 -0400 From: "Mitosis" To: "Btrvetc List" Subject: Quick Shots Message-ID: <008c01bdfed0$d5d1efc0$33358acd@mitosis> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For lack of better, this shall be called "Quick Shots" When you are receive "new" material, certainly it must be reviewed, also it is often necessary to exam long existing data for error. All of the following suggestions can be found in books regarding Genealogy, internet sources etc. This is but naught a "Check List" to use in your review. The "obvious" I have tried to elimante from the list... it's those "out of sight, out of mind" this list attempts to addresses. Therefore, if you have a "aid" in use of the nature of those noted, just add the next applicable number and "Quick Shot", and repost the entire message. In this manner it should be possible to simply copy the "one" document and aid to your files for quick reference. As always, suggestions are encouraged --------------------------------------------- QUICKSHOTS 1...There are approximately three generations per century. 2..Average age for men to marry was 24. They rarely married before age 16. 3...The average age for women to marry was 20. They rarely married before age 16. 4...First marriages were usually between couples near the same age. Women generally outlived their husbands, but older widowers frequently married much younger women who had never been married before. 5...Birth generally occurred at two-year intervals. Frequently the first child was born a year after marriage. As a woman aged, the interval between births grew slightly. Child bearing generally ended around age 45. 6...Families and neighbors usually migrated together from their previous location. Women rarely traveled alone. 7...Men usually married women from their neighborhood, but if a seemingly "strange" woman turned up, check the man's former home. Often men returned to their prior residence to find a wife. 8...If you can't find an old parent, chances are he/she "went West" with a son. 9...If you have a male ancestor born around 1840, strongly consider Civil War service. 10...If your ancestor has a virtue name (e.g. Patience, Charity, Silence) consider a New England heritage. 11...Children were often named for grandparents, both male and female. 12....Frequently middle names or even a first name was the mother's or grandmother's maiden name, especially if the name was repeated through several related families. 13...Nicknames, they can be elusive and have different associations than those in our time. Build a reference file for these. 14...Note "breaks in birth pattern", this may indicate missing children or death at early age. 15... -------------------------------- End of btrvetc-d Digest V98 Issue #69 *************************************