BTRVETC-L Digest Volume 98 : Issue 58 17 Sep 1998 Today's Topics: Tidbits & Oddbits Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS Burnett Cemetery, Spartanburg, SC Re: Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS Re: Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS "Old Cemeteries" Administrivia: for the Burnett/Turner/Ross/Via/Etc Mailing List (BTRVETC-L) Welcome to all our new subscribers; please send us a message to let us know what lines you are working on. :-) We became automated 19 Jan 1998, with everyone that had been on Nyla Creed DePauk's list of subscribers being subscribed to the digest, which (kind) replaces the compilations. There is also a regular list, where you receive messages one at a time. If you wish that version, unsubscribe from the digest, and subscribe to the regular list (see below). Please do not send your emails to Nyla any longer; if you do, she will send them to the list. Please post your messages to: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org (that's a lowercase ell, not a number one.) ***** Do not send attachments or multipart MIME messages to the list! ***** ***** Send only plain text. Microsoft Outlook and Express seem to do ***** ***** this without the poster knowing. Check your configuration. ***** ***** Thanks! ***** To unsubscribe, email btrvetc-d-request@genealogy.org with the SUBJECT: UNSUBSCRIBE. To subscribe to the regular list, email btrvetc-l-request@genealogy.org with the SUBJECT: SUBSCRIBE You can also use the web page at: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/BTRVETC/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:15:47 -0400 From: "Mitosis" To: "Btrvetc List" Subject: Tidbits & Oddbits Message-ID: <001a01bddf64$11ab3b00$12358acd@mitosis> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well guys & gals... get ready to open your "mad money" cache. Just returned from a visit to a friend's "Genealogy Room". In some prior life I believe it to have been a "Den". As we entered the room he flipped a "wall" switch and indirect lighting bathed the area. Spotlit ancestorial pictures adorned the wall with approiate brass plaque. It was then I noted, softly in the background "Amazing Grace". As I fumbled for my glasses at his request to view his "Family Tree"... another "wall" switch and the slide show began. (hum... don't guess I need the glasses) Now I mistakenly called this a slide show, this actually was a professionally prepared "presentation" complete with narrative and music. I inquired about the strange numbers following each "cemetery" listing. "Oh, that's the GPS notation". I commented about a rather striking reproduction of a "Virginia-1895" map on the wall. Have seen this reproduction many times, but not looking this good! I figured it was "on loan" from Williamsburg. He turned to his son saying, "Andy can you take care of that". As "good-byes" were being exchanged, Andy appeared with a map tube containing a copy of "Virginia-1895". To my query as to how this was accomplished..."Well, I retired a graphics pen plotter at work and thought I would use it here at home. I really hate those 8X11 reproductions, I think these are much better and maintian the detail." My thoughts at the moment were... If I had bond paper this good I would repaper my den with it...oops, I mean "genealogy room" _MITOSIS_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 02:45:41 -0400 From: "Mitosis" To: "Btrvetc List" Subject: Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS Message-ID: <000101bde074$77f33e60$3a358acd@mitosis> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Something has trouble me of late and maybe somebody can offer some insight into the "type" individuals I'm encountering. Example: "Trying to locate 'Blah Blah Burnett, or Turner, or Via, etc. Can you help?" If I have the information, try to supply complete family group and end by saying " If I can be of further assistance, let me know". If they request additional information it generally is specific in nature and if available this is supplied also. Now I don't supply my notes... Why, I read this book when I started genealogy and it advised to makes notes as it thinking and talking aloud. Well, that's just what I did therefore, my notes tend to be too saucey for distribution. Source information is no problem. However, when I request that they share information, like for a branch of my family not fully developed... the connection goes DOA (dead on arrival). I'm sure some of the readers will recall my passionate search for the lost soul "Charlie King Turner". This prompted a query from someone who need verification that one of the family members of the family group in question was in fact the wife of another of the group... sorry for all that, but I still find it a problem to bash a woman. After making the said connection for this person, I request if they might share information on the family group associated with the ancestor referenced. D...O...A Hell, I can accept a "no I shall not share any with you, I got what I needed... so kiss off". But DOA! Figured I would read all the compiled files, maybe the proper protocol would be revealed therein. These "Sourdoughs" (that's a good nick for that gang, course gotta know what "starter" is to appreciate) posted any and all they had, and I do mean all...queries flew back and forth as one connection after another was ferreted out. You can see the Burnett and Turner trees develope before your eyes. This was no "stealth" operation, it was awesome and worth your review. I would list their names, but afraid I might miss one, so read the files... the "sourdoughs" are easy to spot. Now, I'm old enough to know that "good old days" never return, however for those just starting this "hobby", "addiction", take your choice, you should read these files just so you will know how it's suppose to work. So... to all you sourdoughs still out there, Thank You... without your help I should have never known my roots. Bless you and yours.... And yes, please... how does one handle the "leeches" _MITOSIS_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 21:44:05 -0400 From: "BRITT BURNETT" To: Subject: Burnett Cemetery, Spartanburg, SC Message-ID: <003501bde113$83eb3520$e31f4d0c@britt-burnett> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For all of those interested, I've added pictures of the Burnett cemetery from my visit last January to my website: http://home.att.net/+AH4-bkburnett/index.html I apologize that the pictures do not show elaborate details, but the cemetery is not in very good shape. The pictures are a good representation of the cemetery. Please write if you have more interest. Britt Burnett bkburnett+AEA-att.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:23:44 EDT From: NCreed1@aol.com To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Re: Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS Message-ID: <12ce0f55.35ff2130@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Greetings to Everyone: In a message dated 9/14/98 11:47:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mitosis@preferred.com writes: << And yes, please... how does one handle the "leeches" >> Thoughts from a sourdough: When I started the BTRVETC group, I thought it was going to be a one-time, maybe two at the most, mailing. Never in my imagination did I think it would develop into the kind of exchange we have witnessed. >From day one, folks gave from their heart. We were hungry for information. We wanted to share with others. We were more into giving, I believe, than receiving. I watched David develop a database on Turners by feeding his computer as the info was shared. We waited patiently for his updates, knowing that he would connect more families and make the picture clearer for us. This group of people loves sharing. We developed friendships. It is truly a family. We were supportive of each other then and still encourage each other. It didn't seem to matter to any of us which lines we were currently discussing. We had as many ETC families as we did Burnetts, Turners, Rosses, and Vias. We watched the Via researchers expand, and applauded when Judy and Sandy started their Via list. We learned from the experts. June was there whenever we had a Burnett question. We even had some good jokes shared. We prayed for members of our group when they let us know they were ill or had other concerns. When we outgrew my "cut and paste" capabilities, Chris automated our group. Many of us established our own homepage and started sharing our homepage addresses. We had one rule. It was so simple. "We have no rules." Whatever anyone wanted to share, ask, or say was okay. Since we had no rules, no one got flamed for breaking the rules. Everyone treated everyone else with respect. And, those of us could be considered "starters" were patient with the newbies. We had been there at one point, and remembered the kindness shown to us along the way. And in our sharing, sometimes we received information from someone who recognized the person we were researching. And sometimes, we didn't receive the information that we were hoping to receive. But we marched on, never regretting that we had shared and helped someone else. Sometimes, we received information that we had requested immediately. Sometimes, it was months later when it arrived. Sometimes, I needed a nudge when I didn't follow through on sharing information that I had promised. Most of us are busy with other things. I promise to send information and fully intend to do just that. Then I get distracted. Sometimes, just a reminder is all that is needed to get that information we're longing to receive. So, a little nudge or gentle reminder often works miracles. Occasionally, for whatever reason, a person may choose not to share information. And when that happens, there's not much we can do about it. That's life. Maybe the information will come from another "cousin." So, I encourage you not to be discouraged; but to keep your enthusiasm and continue to brighten our emails with your wonderful excitement, which you demonstrated when you found Charlie King Turner. We share your passion for genealogy, too. Nyla Nyla CREED DePauk http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3412 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 01:18:10 -0400 From: "Mitosis" To: , Subject: Re: Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS Message-ID: <004c01bde131$69402320$43358acd@mitosis> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Thoughts from a sourdough: When I started the BTRVETC group, I thought it was >going to be a one-time, maybe two at the most, mailing. Never in my >imagination did I think it would develop into the kind of exchange we have >witnessed. > >>From day one, folks gave from their heart. We were hungry for information. >We wanted to share with others. We were more into giving, I believe, than >receiving. I watched David develop a database on Turners by feeding his >computer as the info was shared. We waited patiently for his updates, knowing >that he would connect more families and make the picture clearer for us. >Nyla CREED DePauk >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3412 Now there's a message for my archives... Nyla, thanks for history behind BTRVETC and for the creation thereof. Certainly the information received from this site has filled many a hole in my database. And David, well his mind is quicker than the computer the data is entered upon... "Puzzler" elite and no peers in sight. He was so much help to me in resolving the "Charlie King Turner" problem. Let me state for all to know that David did 99% of the cipher, I was just along for the ride. One thing for sure... Nyla, you couldn't have choosen any better than Chris to pick up the "traces", she has a style and grace not unlike your own. Your "idea" certianly grew beyond expections... a great plus for researches of any for no less than the example it set. I suppose in reply to my posting... have heard from most of the "Sourdoughs", all with encourgement and "push forward" movitation. It was particularly pleasing to find that all seem to be "lurking" about and not far from the scene. I related sometime back on this site... "Doubt there's a Burnett Tree anywhere that does not bear June Borks fingerprints". That statement is as true now as when first posted. At present I understand she's tearing up the terrian in Scotland looking for more "Burnetts'". Eunice and Caroline, now there's a couple gals I'd like to get my arms around. If anyone can't define "sharing", they need to check these two out. Believe Eunice has laid aside her pen for the moment, she has recently suffered loss of loved one... and needs time. We miss you Eunice, and our hearts hope to touch yours at this time. Caroline, well she would encourge a fox in the hen house... big heart on a small frame. So... to all the "SourDoughs", thanks for making it real. _Mitosis_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:29:45 -0400 From: "Wm. W. Turner" To: "BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org" Subject: "Old Cemeteries" Message-ID: <360057F9.7A3BD8A6@zoomnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Concerning old cemeteries, Has anyone ever heard that you could get a good picture of an old stone by sprinkling flour over the letters? Just regular flour is supposed to make the letters stand out where they can easily be seen . I have yet to try this method , but it sounds great. Wm. W. Turner -------------------------------- End of btrvetc-d Digest V98 Issue #58 *************************************