BTRVETC-L Digest Volume 98 : Issue 54 1 Sep 1998 Today's Topics: Where are you now Tidbit & Oddbits Re: Tidbit & Oddbits A Home for Charlie John Turner/Nancy Burnett Unidentified subject! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:03:21 -0400 From: "Mitosis" To: "Btrvetc List" Subject: Where are you now Eunice, Ida sent you a copy too but you're worst than a frog on a hot rock.... where is you child? Are back at swva.net, huh? ekirkman@swva.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:43:17 -0400 From: "Mitosis" To: "Btrvetc List" Subject: Tidbit & Oddbits Guess you kinda know about my grandson, Jordan Blake Turner... he makes those runs on the ole barn fetching Lord knows what next... Today it was a "fly sprayer". Now if you don't know what a fly sprayer is I'll try an explain. (and those who do, quit laughing). Well it's kinda like a bicycle pump with a #10 tomato can attached. All the hardware stores use to carry them. You filled the can (it had a screw on cap) with any of various liquid fly killer mixtures. Then you pumped the handle and that produced a fine spray, good enough to fill a room with a breath catching, strangling mist. Works on the same idea as a squeeze bulb perfume bottle. Reminds me, anybody still see those sticky ribbon fly catchers about. Now there's something every kitchen should have again. Man they were gross... all dem dead flies stuck to the tape hanging in the kitchen while you're trying to eat. Still, it was better than flies in your gravey! Now Iam gonna say that this fly sprayer cost dollar maybe dollar and quarter in it's heyday. At the moment, not including labor, I've got about $50.00 in this dude. The 0-rings had to be replace in the pump. Nothing on the shelf fits this thing... thankfully we have a manufacturer of 0-rings in my area, so off we went. The president of the firm, his like me, older than dirt and was the only one there who knew what this dodad was and took immense pride in that fact. He was determined to find the proper parts for it's repair and that he did, at a cost of $9.40 Then a stop at the TV service shop where they applied solder to numerous pin holes in the unit.(another $5.00) Then a shock, that top wasn't about to come off. It's been on there I reckon 20 years and was content with it's present location. $3.95 for liquid wrench, didn't help much tho... I manged to twist the damn can right off the pump. Now we're on our way to the sheet metal fabicators, they complete the repair, $10.00. At last, a working unit.... Now I figure it's not wise to fill this thing with some killer chemical, so I opt for a little white lie and a mixture of soap and water. "Yep son, you got what it takes to whip out all the bugs in the neighborhood". What's that you say... where did I spend the rest of the money? At the drugstore... hornets are not impressed with soap and water it seems. Well, gotta run... Iam busy trying to think up a good story to tell my daughter when she arrives to fetch her "lumped up" son. _Mitosis_ Searcher of Lost Souls Tidbit & Oddbits ... and that's the way it was long ago ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 09:08:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christine E. Gaunt" To: Mitosis cc: Btrvetc List , Bea , Subject: Re: Tidbit & Oddbits Gordon, Ouch! Guess you shoulda told Jordan it only worked on flies. Hope he's ok! Chris On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Mitosis wrote: > Guess you kinda know about my grandson, Jordan Blake Turner... he makes > those runs on the ole barn fetching Lord knows what next... > > Today it was a "fly sprayer". Now if you don't know what a fly sprayer > Now I figure it's not wise to fill this thing with some killer chemical, > so I opt for a little white lie and a mixture of soap and water. "Yep > son, you got what it takes to whip out all the bugs in the > neighborhood". > > What's that you say... where did I spend the rest of the money? > At the drugstore... hornets are not impressed with soap and water it > seems. > Well, gotta run... Iam busy trying to think up a good story to tell my > daughter when she arrives to fetch her "lumped up" son. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 19:36:42 -0400 From: "Mitosis" To: "Btrvetc List" Cc: "June" , "Rees" , "Prospector" , "Eunice" , "David" , "Chris" , "Bea" Subject: A Home for Charlie Charlie King Turner will fluff his pillow and position himself more comfortable this night. No longer a "Lost Soul" to his brothers, sisters and his ancestories proceeding. Tho his life upon this earth was brief, 1909 to 1930, I doubt he could understand his absent from the minds and thoughts of his cousins. Tis worrysome to be a "Lost Soul". >From the memories of an ole man, "Mitosis", and the clever mind of "Puzzler" you return. You were a problem to find... but a thread left for connection. And we shall be there soon to rest flowers upon your head, to tell you we care. Welcome home "Charlie King" ........................................................................ ................... Charlie King Turner son of Nathanial "Nat" Henry Turner and Lula Belle Scott b. Oct 22, 1909 d. Nov 27, 1930 No known marriage or issue ........................................................................ ................... Mitosis... it's of no importance Puzzler... N4JED ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:04:47 -0700 From: "Jim Spencer" To: Subject: John Turner/Nancy Burnett I'm wondering if anyone has compiled a list of Turner's that left Virginia in the early 1800's, particularly counties of Partirck, Henry and Franklin. I am looking for the John Turner that married the Nancy Burnett (daughter of William Burnett and sister to Elizabeth Burnett Tuggle). Any help would be appreciated. /s/ Jim Spencer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:43:34 -0500 From: "Kevin K. Stephenson" To: "'Burnett Family Newsgroup'" Subject: Unidentified subject! Hi cousins! I've been quiet for quite a while, studying law...however, I was doing some research on the net about a week ago, got distracted, and started looking for family tree stuff. I contacted a gentleman named Glenn who was researching the Tilley family, which is connected to my Burnett line. He provided a great deal of information on them, and the information he provided leads me to believe that there may be a connection between the North Carolina Burnetts and the Shelby County, Kentucky, Burnetts. I've included the text of our discussions in this message. Does anyone out there see connections in North Carolina to any of these folks??? Kevin Stephenson kevinS@ukans.edu From: Kgs4444@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 12:30 PM To: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Joel Tilley Received your e-mail regarding Joel Tilley. I think the one you mentioned may have been in my direct line. There is a mass of confusion about this, however, and I don't want to confuse you either, but here is what I have pretty well documented. The line ( (at least what I have so far) started with Lazarus Tilley who died in Orange County, Virginia in 1744. His son (and there may have been others) was named Henry. Henry evidently migrated to the Surry County area of North Carolina, and he died there in 1789. He specifically named three sons in his will, Lazarus, Edmund & John, but referred to his other children, so he had more. The Lazarus mentioned apparently moved in the mid 1790's to Shelby County, Kentucky where he died in 1814. While still in Stokes County, North Carolina he apparently had a son Joel (born 1765, died 1847 in Stokes County) who did not move with him to Shelby County, Kentucky but stayed behind in North Carolina. Lazarus also had another son named Lazarus who apparently moved to Putnam County, Indiana. This is where it gets confusing. In addition to the three sons specifically named in Henry's will, there is another son named Joel who is listed in Henry's estate settlement. The Stokes County Census for 1810 & 1820 lists a Joel Tilley & a Joel Tilley, Jr.. As you know that does not necessarily indicate a father-son relationship but was used by the Census taker to differentiate between two people of the same name,. In the 1830 Census (Stokes) there is only one Joel. I think the other Joel moved to Warrick County, Indiana and then to Breckinridge Couny, Kentucky where he appears in the 1840 Census and died there in 1843. Going back to the Lazarus in Putnam County, Indiana I am a little uncertain, as that part of Indiana as a connection has come about very recently and I really haven't done the research yet to explore that line. It is possible that the Lazarus that moved to Putnam county had a son named Joel & that may be the one in your line. The Tilleys, as you know had a penchant for cross-naming their children. It drives me to distraction. My Joel is in the Indiana area in the time period you mentioned but I've always thought only in the Spencer & Warrick areas. Hope I haven't bored you with all this but will look forward to your reply. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Kgs4444@aol.com [mailto:Kgs4444@aol.com] Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 11:46 PM To: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Tilleys Lets start with Shelby County, Kentucky Lazarus who died in 1814. Some of his land was sold to one of his sons (Henry) and all of his other children who were legatees had to approve the sale. They were: 1)Joel 2)Elizabeth 3)Aaron 4)Nancy 5)Lazarus (married a Caty Heady (Hedden) October 23, 1802 in Shelby County) 6)Betsey (married a Burge) 7)Nelly (married a Graves) 8)Ann (married a Richardson) 9)Mary Ann (married a Lisley) 10)Agatha (married a Mitchell) 11)Moses 12)Elizabeth 13)Nancy (married a Simmons) 1) Joel stayed in North Carolina after his father moved to Shelby County, as per my previous message. 5)Lazarus ended up in Greencastle, Indiana as he gave his approval from there on October 17, 1840 for his son Abraham to marry a Charity Hedden in Shelby County. He is probably the one buried at Cloverdale. This would make him the brother of 1) Joel. Don't know who Polly was. She could be a second wife of Lazarus (Caty Heady, the first) or one of Lazarus' daughters. My line is with the other Joel whose father is, I believe, but have been unable to prove, the son of Henry, the father of the Shelby County Lazarus. This would make my Joel the brother of Shelby County Lazarus & the uncle of Lazarus' son Joel. Is this confusing ir what!!! You mentuioned that an Elizabeth Tilley married a Pryor Burnett. Do you have any idea as to when that marriage took place? It might help to determine who was her father. Will try & get some more info on my Joel & send it to you next time. In the meantime if you have any comments, specific dates, locations etc. please fir away. Glenn Glen-- Pryor Burnett married Elizabeth Tilley Dec. 20, 1827, Shelby County, Kentucky. His dad, James Cunningham Burnett, owned land which adjoined the Heddens' land southeast of Shelbyville. The land descriptions there are in metes and bounds, and Hedden is mentioned several times in the deed. Pryor sold his share of this land, as did the other Burnett children, to his brother, Felix Grundy Burnett, after J.C. died. The Tilleys (Lazarus and Caty, presumably) moved to Indiana with the Burnetts (Pryor and Elizabeth (Tilley)) between 1837 and 1840, because Pryor deeded his share of the estate to Felix from Indiana in 1840. This coincides with Lazarus granting permission for Abraham to marry from Indiana, also in 1840. The Burnetts also married into the Richardson family, in Virginia before they all moved to Kentucky. Joshua Richardson married Mary Burnett, James Cunningham Burnett's aunt. William Burnett, J.C.'s nephew and John D. Burnett's son, married Elizabeth Richardson, Joshua and Mary's daughter. Joshua Richardson remarried, and his son James, by his second wife(Mary Snow), married Ann Tilley in 1807, Shelby County, Kentucky. This is the Ann that you show. My records show Lazarus Tilley (buried in Cloverdale) married to a Catherine H. (Caty Hedden?). She was born 1784, died 1851. Polly probably was a second wife...she died in 1865, and is buried alongside Lazarus and between him and Pryor Burnett. Looking at the picture I took of her gravestone, it says on it she was Lazarus's wife. Are our families tangled up enough with each other???? The Tilleys having been in North Carolina leads me to believe that there's a strong possibility of a connection between the Shelby County, KY Burnetts and the North Carolina Burnetts, since the Burnetts and the Tilleys were intermarrying. That being the case, I'm going to post this letter to the Burnett research group discussion, and see if any of the North Carolina Burnetts can add anything to this. Thanks for the info, and stay in touch! I'll let you know what the others have to say. Kevin K. Stephenson 1600 Kentucky St. #2 Lawrence, KS 66044 (785)865-1586 Data/Fax:(785)865-1586 e-mail: kevinS@ukans.edu website: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html -------------------------------- End of btrvetc-d Digest V98 Issue #54 *************************************