BTRVETC-L Digest Volume 98 : Issue 37 3 Jun 1998 Today's Topics: Burnett Photos and more Burnetts Another Burnett Bogus Msg?? Burnetts FW: Burnett descendency Burnett descendency My lineage Burnett Montrosity BURNETT Death Cert - Martha [Burnett] Davis - 1928 - Whitley Co. (fwd) Administrivia: for the Burnett/Turner/Ross/Via/Etc Mailing List (BTRVETC-L) Welcome to all our new subscribers; please send us a message to let us know what lines you are working on. :-) We became automated 19 Jan 1998, with everyone that had been on Nyla Creed DePauk's list of subscribers being subscribed to the digest, which (kind) replaces the compilations. There is also a regular list, where you receive messages one at a time. If you wish that version, unsubscribe from the digest, and subscribe to the regular list (see below). Please do not send your emails to Nyla any longer; if you do, she will send them to the list. 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To subscribe to the regular list, email btrvetc-l-request@genealogy.org with the SUBJECT: SUBSCRIBE You can also use the web page at: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/BTRVETC/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:37:57 -0400 From: Jerry Baker To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Burnett Photos and more Message-ID: <356D92E5.4A45@hyperaction.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Kin I was wanting to know if anyone had been to the graves of the old world Burnetts. such as John Burnett married Isabel Johnston Born 1549*(were married in1574)(John is of Crathes Castle), and John died in 1612 and Isabel died in 1620 she was buried beside John in Aberdeen Scotland. I would like to have a phot of this and a location to show me how to get there once I go to Scotland. And any others would be graet such as John and Ameys grave site in VA. so if anyone can help me please let me know. I would also like to know if anyone has a copy of the Hotten's, THE ORIGINAL LISTS OF PERSONS OF QUALITY, 1635 - This is were JOHN BURNETT, AGE 24 ABOARD SHIP ABRAHAM OF LONDON, MR. JOHN BARKER, MASTER, BOUND FOR VA. I would love to have a copy of this for my records. I will be doing a Web page soon that will have my whole Burnett line as I have gathered it along with a few photos and other stuff of interast to the Burnetts and others. it will be at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/3270/ so feel free to stop by, I have already started on it but it is not 100% yet. Thank you all -- Jerry Baker nWo 4-Life CEO nWo MotorSports Sim Racing's most winning team ever! nWo's Main Pages http://www.hyperaction.net/jbaker/ nWo Fan Club http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2320/fan_club.html R.A.P. Member http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/6328/ SRA Member http://www.miracing.com/sra/home.htm Team Sponsors Hitz http://www.datacom-hitz.com/hitz/ Baker Design's http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/7839/designs.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:31:47 -0400 From: "lndshll" To: "Burnett Turner News Letter" Subject: Burnetts Message-ID: <000101bd8a99$2a817b00$23adaec7@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most people that post messages identify themselves and what they want.And how to contact them.When you made this statment about Thomas Burnett, you stated no facts to disprove he was John Burnetts son. Are you a Burnett??? Linda Burnett Shull lndshll@sprynet.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:39:55 EDT From: To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Another Burnett Bogus Msg?? Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Burnett Cousins ! Has anyone else received the mailing which calls into question some of the resources we have been using in our e-mail group? Is this a "joke," or has someone disproved some of the documentation concerning THOMAS BURNETT b.1574 Aberdeen Scotland and back to JOHN BURNETT of ABERDEEN?? Have I overreacted? If so, sorry. If not, what is the interaction between these two groups, if any?? I am speaking of the Rootsweb Burnett list. Cousin Caroline Burnett Cook ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:10:01 EDT From: To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Burnetts Message-ID: <90798996.356e270b@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Linda and Caroline and All: I get both the "Mail" and "Digest" of our Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc group. I haven't received the post you both reference. If you subscribe to another Burnett list, perhaps it was through that list. Personally, I would find it difficult to take anyone seriously who hasn't signed their post, regardless of what they write. Nyla CREED DePauk Still in San Diego P.S. I sure miss you all. I'm still working on my genealogy and reading every message you all send. Check out my home page. It's slowly coming together. Still have more to add. http://geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3412 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:16:52 -0400 From: "lndshll" To: "Burnett Turner News Letter" Subject: FW: Burnett descendency Message-ID: <000101bd8ab0$3a13df60$ed8eaec7@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is the E-mail I received.I am no longer as of today on the list. Linda Burnett Shull -----Original Message----- From: Burnett Family Ancestry [mailto:j.burnett@diamond.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 6:09 PM To: BURNETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Burnett descendency >From duty system administrator, Burnett Family Ancestry. USA Descendency. I refer to recent messages posted all over the internet regarding some Burnett descendency in the USA. and as there is much misconception and dis-information (mainly started by fraudulent commercial concerns adding raw data from IGI records etc) for the purposes of accuracy we post the following information which may be of great importance to some correspondents researching their ancestry- John Burnett who travelled to the USA and married Lucretia JOHNSON was baptised on 25th December 1610, yes Christmas day. His parents were Thomas Burnett and Margaret JOHNSTON note mostly quoted with the T as Johnston not Johnson. They had 10 other children. It appears that Thomas was NOT repeat NOT descended from John Burnett and Isabel, and was not descended from any LEYS or collateral LEYS Burnett groupage. It is an unfortunate fact of life that some family historians and even professional genealogists have been misled or are misleading others for gain that they have some connection with one of the greater Burnett houses, usually LEYS or BARNS. We examine hundreds of family trees and have to disappoint all but perhaps 1%. This should not be a disappointment, a true family historian or genealogist should wish to know the truth and verify the facts of his/her own ancestry. Happy researching, we hope that you find in truth that which you seek The Burnett Family Ancestry Team. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:48:49 EDT From: To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Burnett descendency Message-ID: <86a1f33e.356e3e32@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Linda: I don't belong to the Burnett group so I appreciate you sharing the message you receive. May I encourage you not to let one unsigned letter cause you to quit a group if you enjoy the group. As you know, it is impossible to control what information people submit to groups. Obviously, the letter was written by someone who wanted it to appear authentic. Now, I don't have any idea who The Burnett Family Ancestry Team might be. Have you heard of them? Since it didn't have any individual listed or a signature, I wouldn't take it seriously. Maybe you'd just want to keep the info so that you can refer to it if the subject comes up again. Things like that always seem to resurface. I suspect some of our own USA Burnett researchers will have comments to make about that post. And, if nothing else, it will generate new eMails and documentation. Happy Genealogy, Nyla CREED DePauk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 03:24:26 -0400 From: "GK Turner" To: Subject: Message-Id: <199805290724.DAA31951@preferred.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Linda... Hey, don't let it cause to sign out. No signature, no verification, just plain BS. There's always one like this somewhere in the crowd. They'll have a hard time selling crap to this group! GKTurner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 19:39:21 -0400 From: BFBonham To: Burnett-Turner Mailing List Subject: My lineage Message-ID: <356F4728.A3464385@awod.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay Cousins, fun and games are over...I need to share my Burnett family history and find me some relatives. 1.John BURNETT was born about 1764 in Southfarnham Par, Essex County, Virginia. He died after 5 Jan 1825 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. John married (1) Malinda HARVEY, daughter of <----------> HARVEY and Elizabeth <---------> on 24 Dec 1791 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. Malinda was born about 1770 in Virginia. They had the following children: 2 F i. Elizabeth BURNETT was born in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. Elizabeth married (1) John B. FRETWELL on 20 May 1833 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. 3 M ii. Thomas B. BURNETT was born in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. Thomas married (1) Mary STRATTON on 21 Dec 1829 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. 4 M iii. Micajah BURNETT was born about 1795 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. He died Feb 1863 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. Micajah married (1) Sarah STRATTON on 14 Jan 1826 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. 5 F iv. Frances BURNETT was born about 1796 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. Frances married (1) Wyatt GARRETT on 5 Aug 1813 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. 6 F v. Mildred BURNETT was born 31 Mar 1800 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. She died 17 Apr 1879 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. 1870 US Census Pittsylvania County, Virginia: Series M593, Reel 1671: Page 66. Mildred married (1) Stokely FARTHING, son of William FARTHING and Tabitha BLANKS on 5 Jan 1825 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. Stokely was born 26 Mar 1796 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. He died 26 Mar 1869 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. A photocopy of what was a copy book of mathematical problems and solutions in his handwriting is the compilers possession in addition to his memorandum of birth, deaths and marriages for himself, Mildred and the children. 1850 US Census Pittsylvania County, Virginia: Series M432, Reel 968:Page 213, family no. 625: Farthing, Stokely 55 MW Cooper VA; Mildred 50 FW VA; Catherine 23 FW VA; Malinda 21 FW VA; Penelope 18 FW VA; William 13 MW VA. 1860 US Census, Pittsylvania Co., VA, Series M653, Reel 1370: Page 196, line no. 31, EN 1161: Farthing, Stokely 67 Farmer, Mildred 59, Malinda 25, Caroline 23, William 21. 7 F vi. Catherine BURNETT was born about 1810 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. She died before 20 Jul 1834 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. 02 May 1834 Will Book____, page 267, names brothers and sisters. Probate 20 Jul 1834. Now if you are kin to me; I want to hear from you. I have no money, am not in good health; I just love family. Barbara -- Barbara Farthing Bonham - Visit my Home on the Web... Cherry Stone Creek http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9515 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 11:15:46 -0700 From: jbbork@ix.netcom.com To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Burnett Montrosity Message-ID: <35704CD2.41FB@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had not intended to let others know what is happening to my books, but have decided to let the cat out of the bag. I have been informed that a commercial company is distributing many generations of THE BURNETTS AND THEIR CONNECTIONS. I am not sure of any company except Family Tree Maker that is involved. If anyone out there knows of others, I would appreciate knowing about it. For those of you that may have copied the records from Family Tree Maker, let me advise you there are many many errors. Apparently someone thinking they were avoiding copyright laws, changed names and dates, twisted children around and all sorts of abortions. I cried when I saw the records that I worked so hard on, for so many years and for thousands of dollars that I will never re-coup. But, everyone knows their own records and so I know mine. Some of the errors printed in first run of Vol. one are included. Apparently whoever turned the records in, did not know about the revised copy. It has certainly discouraged me from moving forward on our Scottish ancestry or learning more about Lucretia Johnston Burnett's family, as well as the Gatewoods, as long as there are thieves out there ready to make a dollar on whatever I do. To all who came to my defense during the recent AMERICA vs SCOTLAND BURNETT BATTLE, I do thank you. A letter from Scotland has vertified that the Scottish Burnett records that I published are correct according to the records in Scotland. /s/ June Baldwin Bork http://www.junebaldwinbork.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 16:22:41 EDT From: To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: BURNETT Message-ID: <5d05fbed.35706a93@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Everyone: June Bork asked me to send a copy of the following to the BTRVETC-L list. Nyla - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 29 May 1998 - To John H. Burnett, Lord of Normanton on Soar - Burnett-L@rootsweb.com - Burnett Family Ancestry cc: j.burnett@diamond.co.uk BTRVETC-L@genealogy.com Dear Sir: I have read your messages along with all the other comments regarding that message and am delighted that you agree that our John (I) was christened at St. Nicholas Church on Christmas Day 1610 and that his parents were Thomas Burnett and Margaret Johnston...and that there were 10 children in the family. That agrees with what I have written. All who descend from John and Lucretia are very proud to say he was the FIRST Burnett in the American Colonies and to be honored by King Charles, WOW! In case you do not agree with that, the original records are housed in the Virginia State Library. As far as Thomas Burnett's parents, the christening record of Thomas Burnett in the Scottish Church records state his parents were John Burnett and Isabel Burnett. It also gave a list of their children and the birth record of our ancestor agrees with the other records. I only recorded what I found. If I am in error, would appreciate knowing about it. I have always said, we can not go back farther in our research unless we have the correct data. A incorrect record can throw us off the track for years and we may never learn the truth. I too have "The Burnett Family of Leys" by George Burnett (the then Lion King of Arms), 1901, published by the New Spalding Club, plus other reliable sources. And just because no one has discovered HOW we are connected to the Burnett of Leys, does not mean that we are not connected. I for one believe that we are and one day a record will surface to prove it. I did not and do not obtain any info from the LDS Church records, called IGI. There are many errors in these records. I also do not get records from Family Tree Maker for the same reason. Neither did I correspond with others to any degree regarding their family records. If I did, they were checked for accuracy. My records came directly from the USA court records, census records, birth and death records, Bible records, deeds, wills, etc. I would have been out of business years ago, if I had not done this. The DAR (Daughters of American Revolutionary War) and SAR (Sons of American Revolutionary War) and Colonial Dames and all the other great American societies own all my books and I understand from some of their officers that they are relied upon for accuracy. THE BURNETTS AND THEIR CONNECTIONS in three volumes, were born from 35 years of extensive study. Twenty-eight years by me and 10 years by a another researcher who retired and gave me all that she had done. I am not sure about the hours she invested, but I worked daily for 12 to 16 hours and still do. This is a total of 38 years of Burnett research. I need not mention the many, many thousands of dollars spent over the years that I will never see again and could greatly use today. Before The Burnetts and Their Connections were written, there were only a hand full of Burnett family books written and those were on their own little families. Most said it could not be done because of the lost records. I have not found a family yet that could not be researched around those lost counties and states. I just wanted you to know something about the Burnetts and ALL Their Connections. It was a love of the family name and a challenge. I do not know that much about our Scottish ancestors, but I do know EACH AND EVERY AMERICAN BURNETT from the 1600s and am very proud to say I am one of them. They are a family to be remembered! /s/ June Baldwin Bork 9375 Bella Vista Road Apple Valley, California 92308 ph: 760-247-3790 email: jbbork@ix.netcom.com http://www.junebaldwinbork.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christine E. Gaunt" To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Death Cert - Martha [Burnett] Davis - 1928 - Whitley Co. (fwd) Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Folks, I saw this on the KYROOTS list and thought I'd pass it along. Folks on that list are starting to post info from their birth, death, marriage, etc. certificates. Chris Christine Gaunt, cgaunt@umich.edu or gaunt@genealogy.org Campbell-L and BTRVETC-L listowner Co-compiler of Genealogy Resources on the Internet Web: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gen_int1.html File (2.4M): via autoreply from gresinet.txt@genealogy.org ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:12:28 -0400 From: Bernadine Colter To: Multiple recipients of list KYROOTS Subject: Death Cert - Martha Davis - 1928 - Whitley Co. Martha Davis, Housewife, born August 8, 1886, Ky. Died july 10. 1928, Goldbug, Whitley Co., Ky. at the age of 41 yrs. 11mo. 6 days. Daughter of Boneter Burnett and Vina Reeves, both born in Ky. She married William Levi Davis. Survived by Husband and nine (9) children: Mary Vina - Ocie Mae - Myrtle - Willard - Herman - Johnny - Leonard and Nan Davis. Martha's middle name was Francis Does not give place of burial or undertaker Source: Ky. Death certificate, File No. 18875 -------------------------------- End of btrvetc-d Digest V98 Issue #37 *************************************