BTRVETC-L Digest Volume 98 : Issue 12 Today's Topics: Re: BTRVETC-L Digest V98 #11 How to get off the list THE PREPONDERANCE ULTIMATUM trial RE: Cain Jr. ,Burnett Hoffman, Family connection William Clarence Turner age 98 - obit James Turner Burnett Early Roots Administrivia: for the Burnett/Turner/Ross/Via/Etc Mailing List (BTRVETC-L) Welcome to all our new subscribers; please send us a message to say hi, and let us know what lines you are working on. :-) We became automated 19 Jan 1998, with everyone that had been on Nyla Creed DePauk's list of subscribers being subscribed to the digest, which (kind) replaces the compilations. There is also a regular list, where you receive messages one at a time. If you wish that version, unsubscribe from the digest, and subscribe to the regular list (see below). Please do not send your emails to Nyla any longer; if you do, she will send them to the list. 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Gaunt" To: Janice Kinsler Smith cc: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: How to get off the list Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Janice, You (and everyone else who would like to unsubscribe) need to send a message with the word "unsubscribe" as the Subject to one of these addresses: BTRVETC-L-request@genealogy.org (if you receive invidual messages) BTRVETC-D-request@genealogy.org (if you receive the digest) (It doesn't work if you send it to the list subscribers, and just clutters mailboxes and list archives. It also doesn't work if you leave out the word "unsubscribe" or "unsub" from the Subject line.) If you have difficulty getting off the list, or if you have trouble posting and you are a subscriber, please email me and I will help. Happy Hunting, Chris Christine Gaunt, gaunt@genealogy.org or cgaunt@umich.edu Campbell-L and BTRVETC-L listowner Co-compiler of Genealogy Resources on the Internet (web pages and file) Web: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gen_int1.html File (2.4M): via autoreply from gresinet.txt@genealogy.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:28:12 -0500 From: "Eunice B. Kirkman" To: "Angus Robinson" Cc: "Tom Minix" , , "Nyla Creed" , "Nettie Clifton" , "Morris L. Ferguson" , "Janice Kinsler Smith" , "Don & Melissa Alexander" , "David Conner" , "Burnette Turner-Via List" , "Bob Jordan" , "Barbara Reininger" Subject: THE PREPONDERANCE ULTIMATUM Message-ID: <01bd42c2$c489dd60$d9f463ce@ekirkman.swva.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THE PREPONDERANCE ULTIMATUM By Madlyn Jamison "I want a divorce!" He/she then said: "Dead ancestors fill dressers, And lie under our beds. They're stuffed into closets, And piled everywhere. A creature can't move Or find a free chair! Forms, pedigrees, photos, Relics and books Cover floors and the Furniture wherever you look! You've got to stop going On researching jags. I'm up to my ears with Your boxes and bags! But you keep on collecting More genealogical stuff! Then there are nights When you don't come to bed, 'Cause you'd rather be doing Your ancestry instead! Since this hobby of yours Has come on the scene, I have not a spouse Nor a house that is clean! Listen well, my darling-- Take heed, my dearest-- Give up this obsession Or I shall depart And leave you for good-- With your SMITHS and your TARTS. OH?? You'll need a computer-- A copier and a printer, too? To work up MY pedigree Before I depart? Sheesh! My love, You're really all heart!!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:25:50 -0500 From: "turners" To: "Michele, Mike, Isaac Gamble" Cc: "turner via list" Subject: trial Message-ID: <19980226212408593.AAA163@turners> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BD42D3.335541C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BD42D3.335541C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_01BD42D3.335541C0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Doc2.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Doc2 (Text Document) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Doc2.txt" ------=_NextPart_000_01BD42D3.335541C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:57:49 -0600 From: "Kevin K. Stephenson" To: "'Burnett Cain'" Cc: "'Burnett-Turner Mailing List'" Subject: RE: Cain Jr. ,Burnett Hoffman, Family connection Message-ID: <01BD42F7.9DD9E4A0@kuts22p08.cc.ukans.edu> Mr. Cain- I cannot help but believe that you are related to me, but I cannot find any of the names that you mention in my family database. My Burnett family HEAVILY intermarried with the Cain's, and there were a LOT of them. I would be almost certain of a link between my family and yours if you have any relatives (that you know of) in either of two places: Platte County, Missouri, or Shelby County, Kentucky. The Burnetts, after they left Virginia, and the Cains from which I descend, lived in Shelby County, Kentucky in the early 1800's, and the Cains moved to Missouri from there. I am forwarding your letter to the Burnett-Turner-Via-Ross-etc. Newsgroup, so that anyone who knows more can get in touch with you. If you'd like to join the newsgroup, and be privy to the discussion of the Burnetts and all their kin, let me know and I'll help you do it. How about it, guys and gals, can anyone help us here?? Kevin K. Stephenson 1600 Kentucky St. #2 Lawrence, KS 66044 (785)865-1586 Fax/Data: (785)865-2555 e-mail: kevinS@ukans.edu homepage: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html -----Original Message----- From: Burnett Cain [SMTP:cainb@doim6.monmouth.army.mil] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 1998 12:46 PM To: kevinS@UKANS.EDU Subject: Cain Jr. ,Burnett Hoffman, Family connection Kevin: My daughter Suzanne had contacted you regards to family names, At present the only thing that I can tell you was that my Great grandfather was George Washington Cain ,born I believe in New Jersey July 29,1835 The Name Burnett also is a family name and at present I am trying to research it out, I can remember back in the late nineteen thirties going with my grandmother to a private nursing home in Newark,NJ to visit with her cousin Emma Burnett,who was at that time 102 years old, this was around 1937, I believe that she lived at least another two to three years and is most likely buried in Newark,NJ. Most of my family have been born in New Jersey , All of George Washington Cain's children were born in Springfield,NJ My Grandfather was Jesse Hoffman Cain, married Amelia Jennette Hicks Cain my grandmother,they had two children a daughter Wyinneretta B.1897, and my father Burnett Hoffman Cain Sr.born 1905,both were born in Springfield,NJ.My father married Alice Susan Gifford Cain, They had four children ,three boys and one girl, I was born July 10,1930. I am trying to find out more about my Great Grandfather, Don't know if he had any brothers or sisters. or where they came from. Except that George Washington must of been born in this country. Please keep me in mind if you should dig up any more on the Burnett's or Cain's or Hoffman's in New Jersey, B.H.Cain Jr. 706 Old Bridge Rd, Brielle,NJ 08730-1424 (732) 528-8106 NEW EMAIL ADDRESS marinebc@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 09:23:12 EST From: GSubyak To: BTRVETC-l@genealogy.org Subject: William Clarence Turner age 98 - obit Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit found on Ft. Worth obit site William Clarence Turner NORTH RICHLAND HILLS -- William Clarence Turner, 98, a retired farmer, died Wednesday, Feb. 25, 1998, in North Richland Hills. Funeral: 10 a.m. Friday at Cooper- Sorrells Funeral Home. Burial: Arledge Ridge Cemetery. Pallbearers will be Gary Evans, Larry Turner, Jerry Turner, Wade McElhanon, Paul Branson and Michael Dunnavent. William Clarence Turner was born Sept. 23, 1899, in Bailey. He was preceded in death by his wife of 72 years, Johnnie Roberta, on March 25, 1990. He was a Baptist. Survivors: Daughter, Rachel McElhanon; son, Samuel Thomas Turner and his wife, Gladys Turner; eight grandchildren; 16 great-grandchildren; and 11 great-great-grandchildren. Cooper-Sorrells Funeral Home Bonham, (903) 583-5555 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 17:24:01 -0600 From: "Larry & Barb Thomas" To: Subject: James Turner Message-Id: <199802282314.RAA22728@mustang.fidnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David or whomever, In your compilations, # 285 in paticular, the Turner's start off: Generation 1 #1 Richard Turner Generation 2 #2 i. John Turner #3 ii. Richard Turner + #4 iii. James Turner b. 1670 #5 iv. Lewis Turner #6 v. Margaret Turner Generation 3 #13 James Turner (son of #4 James) b. 1710, d. 1793 Generation 4 #'33-42, Children of #13 James Turner. I have ask several researchers of the line far more knowledgable than I, and we all show only one James, in affect # 13 and # 4 are one and the same. Further I cannot find where the birth date of 1670 for # 4 James came from. I certainly would appreciate someone letting me know how the second James was determined. Thanks Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:35:22 -0600 From: "Kevin K. Stephenson" To: "'Burnett-Turner Mailing List'" Subject: Burnett Early Roots Message-ID: <01BD455A.1EC76880@kuts6p16.cc.ukans.edu> Hi guys, I received the following from Jo Olive (olivej@usit.net) regarding the early lineage of the Burnetts and Dr. Gilbert Burnett, Lord Bishop of Salisbury. I'm unsure of the accuracy of the early relationships, so I would like to ask those of you who have further data on this to corroborate it if possible, or provide contradicting data if you have it. I was under the impression that there was another generation between Thomas Burnett and James Burnett (1720-1735/1797)...Please help me fill in the gaps! Kevin K. Stephenson From: Jo Olive [olivej@usit.net] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 1998 11:47 AM To: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Burnett Geneology Hi! I'm sending you some info I've had for sometime and was told that at the start this isn't my line but you'll see that a lot of this is correct according to yours and my info. Will send some at a time. The Burnett Geneology - Notes furnished by Elizabeth Shelby Burnett - 1899 - Gilbert Burnett, Printer. The Burnett Genealogy Dr. Gilbert Burnett, afterward Lord Bishop of Salisbury, was born in the Shire of Aberdeen, Scotland, on the 18th of Sept. 1643, was married three times: firs, Lady Margaret Kennedy: second, Lady Mary Scott; and third, Mrs. Berkley: was author of "The Hisorty of His Own Times," "The History of the Reformation," and other books, and figured largely in the stirring times of those days in both Church and State. He had one son. Thomas Burnett, son of Gilbert, edited his father's works after his father's death. The name of his wife is unknow: but he had six children: (1). George Burnett, emigrated to Virginia about 1755; name of his wife is unknown (2) Henry Burnett, married Mrs. Shields, (Elizabeth Graham Shields),(3) James Burnett, m. Watson, Mary Morrison, and Robinson (4)Sarah Burnett, m. John Mack, of Maury Co. Tenn. (5) Mary Burnett, married George Hawkins (6) Gilbert Burnett, m. Margaret Cunningham. (2) Henry Burnett,m. Mrs. Shield and had one daughter, who m. William Smith, and left one son, Henry. (3) James Burnett, married three times, Miss Watson - no issue; second, Mary Morri son, and had seven children; (7) John, m. Judith Beck of Va. (8) William, m. Sarah Graham and twice afterwards. (9) George, m. Dolly Hardeman of Tennessee.(10) Mary, m. Joshua Richardson (11) James C., m. Kizziah Pulliam, Eliza Graham, and Katheriane Gill (12) Elizabeth, m. Jas. Graham (13) Margaret, died single Third wife was Miss Robinson,by whom he had four children; (14) Samuel, who died single (15) Sarah, m. David Ashlby (16) Jane,m. Robert Cain (17) Hebry, m. Nancy M'Gaulrey, Frances Saunders, and Lcuy M'Gaulrey. (4) Sarah Burnett, m. John Mack of Maury County, Tenn, and had six children: Jemes, John, Robert, Mary, William and Henry. (5) Mary Burnett, married George Hawkins, had four children; a daughter who died in Virginia, William, Henry, and Gilbert, who was killed at Riber Raisin. That's it for today, let me know if you want me to send more of this info. Please help me verify or discard the data/relationships in this letter! Thanks. Kevin K. Stephenson 1600 Kentucky St. #2 Lawrence, KS 66044 (785)865-1586 Fax/Data: (785)865-2555 e-mail: kevinS@ukans.edu homepage: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html -------------------------------- End of btrvetc-d Digest V98 Issue #12 *************************************