From: btrvetc-d-request@emcee.com Subject: btrvetc-d Digest V98 #1 X-Loop: btrvetc-d@emcee.com X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/1 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: btrvetc-d@emcee.com Reply-To: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain btrvetc-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 1 Today's Topics: BTRVETC-L List Another JOHN TURNER RICHARD TURNER TURNER Will Indexing and Archiving Suggestions TURNER-PACKWOOD LEONARD TURNER TURNER Connection to Gen Robert E Lee R. TURNER - NC to Benton Co, ARK Thanks Everyone! JESSE BURNETT TURNERs in Perquimans Co NC PEREGORY web site BURNETTs of the South Automated List, Etc & Tree Project JOHN RAY TURNER born Springfield MO in 1859 R. TURNER and wife Caroline Administrivia: Post your messages to: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org (that's a lowercase ell, not a number one.) To unsubscribe, email btrvetc-d-request@genealogy.org with the SUBJECT: UNSUBSCRIBE. ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:20:44 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: BTRVETC-L List Message-ID: <2a46d003.34c4342e@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit 19 Jan 1998 Hello to Everyone: We are now automated. Thank you Chris. If you receive this Digest and want to continue receiving the Digest version (instead of the regular version), you do not need to do anything at all. Once enough messages have accumulated, a digest will automatically be sent to you. If you prefer to receive the individual message version, please follow the instructions outlined in the Welcome to the BTRVETC-L List for unsubscribing to the digest version and subscribing to the individual version. Please read and save the Welcome message since it has a lot of information that you may find helpful. If you want to unsubscribe, you'll need the instructions. All posts should be sent to: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Working with each of you these past two years has been awesome. You're the greatest! Please keep sharing information on your family. Nyla CREED DePauk San Diego CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:21:13 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Another JOHN TURNER Message-ID: <6e663f03.34c4344b@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Another John Turner Date: 98-01-19 12:20:50 EST From: bice@n-jcenter.com (Yvonne Bice) I have been a subscriber of the Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via., etc. compilations since the summer. I have read all the past compilations on Chris Gaunt's page, but so far haven't found anyone working on my line. It is possible that my family ties into the Shadrack Turner family, but it doesn't seem likely. I decided it was time that I posted some of my family information, hoping that someone else might be researching the same family. I'll admit that I have many empty spaces in my family's genealogy, but my Turners have been very elusive. I thought that I knew alot about my Turners, but I have definitely hit a wall. Any help would certainly be appreciated. I will be as brief as possible, but still try to give as many facts as possible. I will not be doing my whole family tree, just the highlights. This is the first time that I have sent anything to any mailing list, and I must admit that I am just a wee bit nervous. I hope that my facts are clear. Well, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Here goes: We start with the my fourth great-grandfather, John Turner. (Of course, what else would he be named, after all every other Turner descendant seems to have a John Turner in their past.) John Turner---born about 1750-1755-this is purely a guess on my part. I thought that he was probably in his twenties when he served in the Revolutionary War. He enlisted on August 1, 1777 in the State of North Carolina--for the term of the War. He served as a private and Sergeant in the North Carolina Regiment. He was discharged at the close of the war in 1783. About 1780/1781 he married Mary Cloud in Stokes County, N.C. (no record has been found of this marriage) Shortly after the Rev. War John Turner and his family moved through Knox County, KY, and then onto Claiborne Co. Tennessee. He died in 1825 in Claiborne Co. Tenn. His wife joined his children in Knox Co. KY, where she died in 1844. Their children were one of the original settlers of Yellow Creek, Middlesboro Knox, then Harlan, then Bell County, KY. These are their known children (still living in 1852). Benjamin Turner (1781) married to Elizabeth ? Nancy A. Turner (1784) (I think she was married to Rev. Thomas Marsee--no real proof) John Turner (1788) married to Elizabeth Marsee Joseph Turner (1792) married to Mary Marsee William Turner (1793) Mary Turner (1793) Most of his children remained in Bell County, Kentucky and many of their descendants. I have more on the descendants, but don't really feel that it is necessary to list all of them at this time. If anyone out there knows anything about this family, I would certainly appreciate any help. Any little tidbit will help! Thanks for letting me enter this information into the compilations. Hopefully, something great will come from it. Good luck to all you other Turner researchers. I've enjoyed reading all the information that you have send to Nyla. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:21:03 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: RICHARD TURNER Message-ID: <60403403.34c43441@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Turner: Richard1 d. 1744, John2 wife Elizabeth & brother James2, Shadrack3&Mes Date: 98-01-19 11:16:30 EST From: MarbleDB@interoz.com (DeCody Brad Marble) More on lineage from Richard Turner: Subject: another letter from M. Jeanette O'Boyle Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:58:29 -0800 From: tdmcm@pilot.infi.net Organization: InfiNet To: MarbleDB@interoz.com Hello Mr. Marble, I am going through all of my files, documents, and letters to insert any sources that I neglected to put in to verify where I came across my information. I have been getting some conflicting information on the Turners and have been going nuts figuring out who to believe. Anyway, I finally got all of your info loaded, thank you. I was wondering if you have reached Kay Peterson yet. I wish she was on-line. She is a die-hard Turner researcher. I have not been. I have just picked this up after a year or more of laying low. I mainly like to find living descendents or relatives that I can obtain records for. I came across a couple of letters you may or may not be interested in. I have not written to these people in years, unfortunately. I hope to do so soon. 1684 W. Fremont Ave. Fresno., CA 93711 July 24, 1995 Dear Mrs. McMillan, I saw your listing of Shadrack Turner in the "Roots" Cellar section of the March-April issue of Genealogical Helper. This Shadrack was a brother of my 5th gr-grandfather, Meshack Turner, who died some time before 28 Jan. 1794 in Wilkes County, Georgia. And by the way, Meshack named one of his sons Shadrack. Enclosed is a family group sheet which shows the very small of in- formation I have been able to gather regarding the family of John TURNER, the father of your Shadrack. Do you have any information about this family to add to this sheet? My goal here, obviously, is to eventually trace this family back into English records. Also, I would like very much to obtain any data you may have pertaining to Shadrack's wife and children. Sincerely, signed J.G. Tillery (enclosed was a sheet with John Turner b. England married to Elizabeth ? children: John b. England died 1763, Henry Co., VA Shadrack b. England died 1783, Henry Co., VA Meshack ca.1722 b. England died Wilkes Co., GA Abdenego b. England ------------------------------------------------------------------------- April 11, 1995 Dear Mrs. McMillan I noticed you inquiry in the Computerized "Roots" Cellar about Shadrack Turner. You probably (sic) that he had two brothers named Meshack and Abednigo and several sisters. You may or may not know this. He was originally from Caroline County, Virginia. Many of the records of Caroline County were burned in the Civil War and only the order book remains. Shadrack was the nephew of my ancestor, James Turner. When the mother of the children died Shadrack was already sixteen so no guardian was named for him. They were named for the other children in the family. All this time the father was already deceased or no guardian would have been named. He, the father, was apparently John Turner, brother of James Turner, and son of Richard Turner, who died in 1744. Shadrack's mother was named Elizabeth. All of the Turners moved west, James into Bedford County and Shadrack into Henry, which was apparently cut from Bedford. Descendents of James also lived in Henry and Franklin Counties. Sincerely, signed M. Jeanette O'Boyle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:21:36 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: TURNER Will Message-ID: <91cd403.34c43462@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: TURNER WILL Date: 98-01-19 14:02:10 EST From: baltom@nova1.net (Bennie Altom) To: NCREED1@aol.com ('NCREED1@aol.com') CC: ablancett@scescape.net ('ablancett@scescape.net'), bilgro@netdoor.com ('bilgro@netdoor.com') Comp. #340 - Gail Blancett Request Halifax County Virginia, WB2-132 (CHIARTO) Vol.2 - ....being sick & weak...To my son ARMISTEAD TURNER 260 ac. of land lying on the West side of Lawsons Creek joining JAMES WILLIAMS & JOHN POWERS & WILLIAM TURNERS lines, and the rest of my land lying on that side of the creek I desire that it may be divided by my old line that is below the creek I desire that it may be divided by my old line that is below the place where I now live and my old place by continuing the sd old line west to the extremity of my land and for my two sons BAZEL TURNER & ABNER TURNER to cast lots for choice and also I give my son BAZEL TURNER & ABNER TURNER one horse & saddle each to be delivered them out of my estate by my executor at the age of 21. The land lying on the eastside of the sd creek to be divided by the other end of my old line running east till it comes to RICHARD DILLARDS line and the lower and containing my old plantation I give to my son MASTAIN TURNER & the other end which is whereon I now live I give to my son RANSOM TURNER &also I give a Negro boy called SAM to be delivered to him at age of 21 years. I give to my dau. FANNY TURNER her choice of the rest of the young Negroes also a cow & calf and feather bed. I give to my dau. SUSANNAH TURNER the next choice of sd young Negroes & feather bed & cow & calf & a womanize riding saddle. I give to my youngest daughter ELIZABETH TURNER the other young Negro & a feather bed & cow & calf & a riding saddle to be delivered to her by my executors at the age of 21 or day of marriage, and if either of my children should die without heir I desire that their parts should be divided between the living children, and the rest of my estate I desire should be kept together by the care of my executors for the support of my small children & the rest if they will live together and if there should be any left when my youngest child comes fit to do for himself that it should be sold and equally divided between my then living children. Exr. loving brother WILLIAM TURNER loving friend MOSES TURNER also my friend THOMAS STANFIELD. wd 8 July 1785 S/ JAMES (+) TURNER Wit. THOMAS (X) TURNER, WILLIAM HOLT, BARNET (x) TURNER, JAMES TURNER. Sec./ MARMADUKE STANFIELD, JOHN IRVINE [NOTE; ARMISTEAD family was in Virginia as early as 1650. MASTAIN family, from which I descend was in Charles County Maryland since 1650. Bennie Altom. There were Mastains in Halifax in 1785.] p.165 JAMES TURNER Inventory & appraisement 28 Oct 1785. Negro woman fillis, do. boy Sam, do. Abraham. Among items: cattle sheep, hogs, household goods, plantation tools, pewter, 1 rifle gun, loom & geer, cotton wheels, linen wheels, 3 feather beds, looking glass, a parcel of books, a razor, mans saddle & saddle bags, 9 old chairs, geldings, mares & colt, 1 still & tub, 10 casks, 20 hogheads, cash due the estate. Total 329/5/6 S/ PATRICK CORNEL, THOMAS STANFIELD, ELEXANDER GRAY 17 November 1785 ************************************** Death of KERRENHAPPUCH NORMAN TURNER....Logan County Kentucky, Court Records...Power of Attorney, Jan. 14, 1804, given by the children and son-in- laws, heirs of Mary Morehead, decd., to Turner Morehead to settle the legacy that was due Mary Morehead from her mother, Keren Turner, dec., late of North Carolina. S/Charles Morehead Recorded by Logan County Clerk. Armistead Morehead. This is not from my research but copied from someone else's. Bennie Lou Hook Altom end ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:22:50 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Indexing and Archiving Suggestions Message-ID: <663db683.34c434ac@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Index Date: 98-01-19 10:49:23 EST From: bigtop@mylink.net To: NCreed1/@aol.com (Nyla Creed) CC: kevinS@ukans.edu You might want to look at this site for ideas on indexing and other archiving. http://www.hom.net/~egs The owner of this site is James Edenfield. (Our GGreat Grandfathers were brothers) Sincerely, Johnny Turner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:22:07 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: TURNER-PACKWOOD Message-ID: <56be1983.34c43481@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Robert E. Lee Date: 98-01-19 19:00:08 EST From: McBee49 Are OUR Turner's related to Robert E. Lee? I have never seen this in any of David's or Chris's research. I told my wife she was related to Senator Packwood. I would love for a Packwood descendant to pass that down to us as to where he fits into the Turner-Packwood family. Nyla, if we do go computer automated, I, for one, will greatly miss you and the life you brought into our family of 221. [I feel like a Turner descendant myself even though I am only married to one. I have done so much research I feel like I am one of you]. Danny McBee. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:20:52 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: LEONARD TURNER Message-ID: <62409f83.34c43436@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Turners Date: 98-01-19 10:58:32 EST From: Ffjerry048 Does anyone have any info on Leonard Turner b.abt 1776 unknown where Married (1)Sally Campbell 21 Aug. 1801 in Culpepper Co. Virginia Married (2)Matilda Brown b. 12 Aug. 1812 in Buckingham Co. Virginia 29 Dec. 1829 Died 17 Sept. 1857 in Monroe Co. Virginia now West Virginia later to be Summers Co. West Virginia Children of Leonard and Matilda William A. Turner b. 5 Dec. 1830 d. 28 Jan 1910 Summers Co. WV Samual Preston Turner b. 4 Feb 1833 d. 26 Nov. 1882 Summers Co. Wv Fredrick C. Turner b. Abt. 1837 d. 9 Jan 1893 Summers Co. WV Sarah Turner b. abt 1838 Caroline M.b. abt 1840 Mary Turner b. abt. 1842 m. Martin Fleming 7 March 1866 Monroe Co. VA\WV Julia Turner b. abt 1843 Tina Turner b. abt 1848 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:22:38 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: TURNER Connection to Gen Robert E Lee Message-ID: <92835703.34c434a0@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Re: [TURNER-L] LEE, ROBERT E,GENERAL Date: 98-01-19 17:44:41 EST From: Search4Kin To: jmljr@flash.net, ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com To: SURNAMES-USA-L@rootsweb.com, NCreed1 To: NC-SC-ROOTS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU To: TURNER-L@rootsweb.com Jesse, Thomas Turner IV of 'Kinloch', Fauquier Co., Virginia was Robert E. Lee's legal guardian. Thomas Turner was married to Eliza Carter Randolph, Robert E. Lee's first cousin. I don't know if this is the relationship that you are searching for, but it is a tie between the families. Both Robert and Eliza are granchildren of Charles Carter. Robert is through Ann Hill Carter and Eliza is through Elizabeth Hill Carter. Though I don't have the General, I only have his parents, you can see a lot of the relationship on my webpage at: http://www.intercall.com/~jmarshal/esmd26.htm I hope this helps. John Randolph Marshall Search4Kin@aol.com http://www.intercall.com/~jmarshal/gene.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:21:52 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: R. TURNER - NC to Benton Co, ARK Message-ID: <7a4c6503.34c43473@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Getting closer Date: 98-01-19 16:17:01 EST From: Abinadab I made a discovery recently that, I think, brings me closer into harmony with the list. I haven't yet seen any familial connections yet, but I'm still hanging on! I have managed to move back my Turner research one generation. The 1850 census shows an R. Turner age 45 living in Benton Co., Ark, It gives his birthplace as N.C. He is the first generation of my Turners to settle in Arkansas. Since my next direct ancestor, James Turner, was born in 1833 in Arkansas and was the eldest of R's children, I estimate R. arrived in Arkansas around 1830. So now I am beginning to take some baby steps into the realm of North Carolina Turners. My local FHC is very sparse in the North Carolina section. My local public library had the 1790 NC census and I was overwhelmed by Turners from all parts of the state. So my work is cut out for me. I'd appreciate any help or direction as I attempt my post-1830 Arkansas Turners to their pre-1830 North Carolina forebears. My first task: If anyone has an 1840 or 1830 Arkansas census index, I'd appreciate a list of all the Turners whose first names start with "R." Second, among the many Turners in the 1790 NC census were several families who, in the racial category, were counted among "other." I'd always believed this applied to people of mixed black and white blood. Could this also mean Indians? I know they were constitutionally protected from taxation but, if "civilized" would they not be included as well? This may be crucial because Turner family lore than I'm familiar with - I was adopted by another family and never knew my Turner blood kin - there is supposed to be a significant infusion of Native American blood. In my unsealed adoption papers, my birth father Turner states his nationality as Scotch/German/Indian. I've looked on the Dawes and other rolls and haven't made any connection to my Indian past. (For that matter, I haven't found the German link either!) My family's migration, what I know of it, seems to roughly coincide in time and place with the force migrations of the Cherokees. And it could also be that the Indian connection is not a Turner line, but one of the people who married intothe line. Thanks to all; I'd appreciate any direction y'all can provide. Jim (Abinadab@aol.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:22:58 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Thanks Everyone! Message-ID: <7307e803.34c434b4@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Date: 98-01-19 15:47:03 EST From: HarrisSEM Thanks Everyone! I just wanted to express my thanks to everyone in this group, but especially to Nyla, David, Chris, and Kevin for all their hard work in making these compilations work. I have said before that I belong to some other groups, but this is the best one. Not just because of the amount of information that is so willingly shared by everyone, but because of HOW it is done. Very friendly and helpful. Even though I am esentially a "cousin-in-law" to most of the groups members, all of the information that I have learned about is part of my children's heritage, and for that I will always be grateful. I am excited for Nyla that she can now have more time for her own research, and I look forward to continuing to participate in this group in its new format. I will be glad to help out and be a "Greeter". Sherry Nyla, David, Chris, and Kevin --this is for you! ( Hope this comes out ok!) . . (( ¤\ . (( ((^Ë \ \((¯ \ . ; \ \ `"` \ \ )) . /( ^Ë\ `¨´ \ \ `¨ ' \ . | \ '\ \ `'` \ ^' \ . | | ¨ ' |¨ | | | . | | | | ; | `¨ | )) . | | | . | | | {applause!} . | \ / . \ \ / )) . \ \ | . (( | | | . |.......|.........................| . by unknown ( edited by Sherry) . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:22:23 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: JESSE BURNETT Message-ID: <4d2bc651.34c43491@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Burnett Date: 98-01-19 20:50:24 EST From: frmill@artelco.com (Frank H. Miller) To: NCreed1@AOL.COM I will be happy to share what I have on the Burnett's line. Just tell me what to do. I know I can cut and paste. I have sent my line some time back its from Jesse Burnett. Would like to hear from other of this line or any others. Great Job. Take care. Thanks to all. Ruby = = = = Ruby: We've automated our old cut & paste routine. ; ) So, that would be two of us out of jobs. Feel free to send your family info again. Never hurts to remind us which line is yours. Nyla ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:22:17 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: TURNERs in Perquimans Co NC Message-ID: <7509f803.34c4348b@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Turner Bible Pages Found Date: 98-01-19 19:56:03 EST From: NCreed1 To: psmartoc@eastnet.educ.ecu.edu Carol: I was looking over some old Turner eMails earlier and found the one you sent 20 Feb 1996 to the Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Mailing List concerning the Bible which listed descendants of John and Absalah (Absillal) Turner. I don't know if you still have the Bible, but I wanted to do a little detective work to see what, if anything, I could find. I did find a marriage record that I believe is for Miles Turner and Rachel, his wife: Myles Turner & Rachel Smith m 8 Feb 1814 Perquimans Co, NC. There are several Turner marriages for that county, but didn't find one for John and Absilla (Baker) Turner. I found several Miles Turner listed. Almost missed the one for Myles Turner. Also, found several Benjamin Turner listed. I don't recall seeing anyone on the BTRVETC list ask about Turners from Perquimans Co NC, but now that I know Miles & Rachel were married there, I'll be paying closer attention. Hope you're doing okay and have found or soon will find a home for the Turner Bible. Nyla CREED DePauk = = = = = = = = Subj: Re: Turner Bible Pages Found Date: 98-01-19 20:49:47 EST From: psmartoc@eastnet.educ.ecu.edu (psmartoc) To: NCreed1@AOL.COM (NCreed1) I have turned the Turner Bible pages over to the Archives in Raleigh, but of course, I kept copies and will be glad to send copies to anyone. Thank you for your interest. Carol ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:22:45 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: PEREGORY web site Message-ID: <40e82c03.34c434a7@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Peregoy Family News Date: 98-01-19 18:05:18 EST From: rpere@crosslink.net (ralph m. peregory) -------------------- check out our web site http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3699/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:21:43 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: BURNETTs of the South Message-ID: <29218383.34c4346a@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Burnetts of the South Date: 98-01-19 15:27:46 EST From: whispval@netxpress.com (Billie m. Sweat) I am so impressed with what you and others are doing to help us "pull it together". I am very new at this and really don't have enough knowledge to offer an opinion on the proposed reorganization. However, I can see some merit in dividing out the Trees so there is not so much to go thru to find a possible reference to your ancestral name. I am a descendant of the BURNETTS that entered Florida, circa 1820-30, before it became a state and am desperately searching for info on Labourne Burnett and his father, Samuel W. Burnett,originally from Va, but am sure they spent time in the Carolinas and Georgia before landing in the Sunshine State! Billie Billie M. Sweat Whispval@netxpress.com OR whispval@Juno.com My FTM Home Page address is: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/w/e/Billie-M-Sweat/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:36:51 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: Automated List, Etc & Tree Project Message-ID: <6506d387.34c437f6@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Automated List, Etc Date: 98-01-20 00:30:33 EST From: rhobson@sdcoe.k12.ca.us (Bob Hobson) To: NCreed1@AOL.COM (Nyla Creed) Nyla, I can only imagine the time and effort keeping this group going has taken. You have done a terrific job. THANKS !!!! The idea of automating things is at once appealing and sad. Improved access sounds good but losing the human touch will be missed. I got in near the beginning of the list and have enjoyed the information sharing. I got a lot of insights and useful information and I hope I made some small contribution to someone's research. It is hard to believe that this thing has grown to nearly 350 compilations. That is quite an accomplishment. Thanks again for doing all of the work that made this possible. About the compilation of the tree. How do we contribute? I only have a small part starting with Admire Turner and the branch that ended up in Kansas with Washington and Owen Turner but I would be willing to submit it. How and where? While I am at it I would like to thank David for all of the work he did recently. Those compilations were of great interest. Keep in touch, Bob Bob Hobson rhobson@intergate.sdcoe.k12.ca.us 10281 Gaul Way Spring Valley CA 91977-1717 reseaching - AKERLY, ANDREWS, BARRICK, BARTON, BEEBOUT, BRELSFORD, BRUBAKER, CLARK, CLAY, COATS, DEMARS, EBERLY, ELLIS, FORD, HAGUE, HANZAL, HOBSON, HOPPING, HORN, JANOVSKY, KUNDINGER, MC CULLOUGH, MC GLUMPHY, PAXSON, SCOGGINS, STEWARTS, TURNER, RUSSELL, VERNOOY, VOPATEK and others. Robert D. Hobson, Ed.D., Principal Rio Seco School Tel. (619)258-2380 Santee School District V-mail (619)258-2250 ext 2445 9545 Cuyamaca Street Fax (619)258-2249 Santee, CA 91971-2674 E-mail rhobson@intergate.sdcoe.k12.ca.us ================== Kevin: Folks are asking about your plans for the Tree Project. Nyla ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:22:31 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: JOHN RAY TURNER born Springfield MO in 1859 Message-ID: <280ac383.34c43499@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Date: 98-01-19 22:44:06 EST From: Flosnotes Am still looking for any info on a John Ray Turner born 1859 in Springfield MO I have info on his descendants but not on ancestors--Thanks Flosnotes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:33:32 EST From: NCreed1 To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org Subject: R. TURNER and wife Caroline Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subj: Re: Getting closer Date: 98-01-20 00:29:57 EST From: Abinadab To: NCreed1 Hi Nyla, R. Turner's wife is named Caroline, b. in Tennessee. I say wife; census doesn't specify relationship. But if the ages in the census are correct, 45 for him and 25 for her, she could be a daughter. She's too young to be my ancestor James Turner's (b. 1833 in Ark.) mother. I've been thrown off by census ages before. My hunch is Caroline is R's second wife. I don't know whether, if she's a wife, that they were married in Tennessee or Arkansas. And, of course, I have no knowledge of where in Tennessee this mysterious Caroline hails. I have copies of the 1840 and 1830 Arkansas census, hoping that would perhaps pin things down, but they're practically unreadible. The fact that James was born in 1833 in Arkansas leads me to believe that R met Caroline (if indeed they are husband and wife) in Arkansas. I have some marriage CDs for Arkansas and Tennessee, but have found no connection yet. Thank you for getting back to me so quickly! I truly appreciate it! Jim -------------------------------- End of btrvetc-d Digest V98 Issue #1 ************************************