Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 10:26:17 -0500 (EST) From: ncreed Subject: Compilation #79 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 7 Dec 1996 Hello to Everyone, This compilation outlines my relationship to my newly found 5th cousin, Evelyn. What a blessing to find another cousin. Still wondering if anyone has an idea why the given name CREED shows up so often as a first name in these families? Nyla CREED DePauk ====================================================== From: JJKALI@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 20:49:37 -0500 To: ncreed@pop.erols.com Subject: Re: Compilation #78 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Hi Nyla and Kevin and whoever is in school at 41..a note of encouragement, I am one of those Northern Turner's stuck on Elisha Turner, 5th gf (1700's era Rev. War unable to locate d/o/b and location (elusive Elisha) in VT) I went back to school at 45 BS, MS and achieved my doctorate in 1992 from Vanderbilt U. in Educational Leadership. It is wonderful to go back to school with the Kiddo's. What competition. Keep up the good work. June Turner Kalipolites in NH =================================================== JUNE, Kevin is in the one in school. Don't give up on us. One of these days we're going to hear from another Northern Turner. Do you have names of any of Elisha Turner's siblings, children, etc. That might help us find some info on him. Nyla ==================================================== From: "Evelyn Alexander" To: Subject: William Turner/Texas Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:51:32 -0800 Nyla, have been down with a bug for a few days, just am starting to do catchup on your great compilations. Starting with #1, and a William Turner born in Virginia, moved to Texas. A possible person is the William Creed Turner, son of George and Milly (Stone) Turner. I am enclosing a typed copy of George's will. from 'A History of the Turner Family of Franklin Co., VA', by William A. Roskey, p-95: I hope that someone can make a connection here, several names are listed. George Wilson Turner, b. 17 Oct 1776, Franklin Co., VA, d. 13 Aug 1854, Franklin Co., VA, Will, (dated 1854) Be it known to all men that I George Turner, of the County of Franklin and State of Virginia, do make this my last will and testament in manner and form followeth to wit. 1st - My will is that all my just debts and burial expenses be paid out of my perishable estate. 2nd - I will and bequeath to my beloved wife, Mildred Turner, during her natural Life all my lands standing in my name, except the tract known by the name of the Guilliams tract, which I desire to be sold by my executors, either public or private as they may think best. Also seven of my slaves namely Tibbam, Jack, Samuel, Lucy, Sparel, Meeby and Mildred; also all my household and kitchen plantation tools as she may think proper to keep for her proper use and benefit; also as much of my stock of every description and use and benefit; also my blacksmith's tools; also enough for her family 12 months to have and enjoy the above named property duing her natural life, and after her death to return to my estate, and to be divided as equal as can be, according to my bequests hereafter to be made in every respect. My will is that my executors sell the remainder of my slaves as soon as convenient after my death and that they be all bought by my legatees only, also the slaves I give to my wife during her life when exposed to sale be bought be my legatees only. I give my executors power to sell the above named property on such credit as they may think will most promote the interests of my estate. Thirdly - I will and bequeath to my beloved son Obadiah Turner 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal, dividing the sum of $1.50 from the said 1/12 part of it, being the amount of money I paid Little Berry Stone for him. 4th - I will and bequeath to my beloved daughter Elizabeth King [Note: m. Solomon King], 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal. 5th - I will and bequeath to my beloved son Stephen Turner 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal. 6th - I will and bequeath to my beloved daughter Ione [Jane?] 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal. 7th - I will and bequeath to my beloved daughter Basheba Davis [Note: m. Sampson P. Davis] 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal. 8th - I will and bequeath to my beloved daughter Ruth Hoy [Note: m. Samuel Hoy] 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal. 9th - I give and bequeath to my beloved son George C. (?) Turner 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal. 10th - I give and bequeath to my beloved daughter Mildred Ann Canady [Note: m. Peter Cannady] 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal. 11th - I give and bequeath to my beloved daughter Martha Cannady [Note: m. James Cannady Jr.] 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal. [The wording in this next paragraph is strange, I have a note, that William C. Turner moved to Texas, possibly before this will. I'm not sure where this information came from. I believe, it may have come from Martha Jane (King) Turner, wife of Whitfield Ross Turner, thru her daughter, Amanda (Turner) Cate, and gandaughter Lola (Cate) Fisher. My line is thru Amanda's brother George Whitfield Turner, Sr.] 12th - I will and bequeath to my beloved son Wm. C. Turner one Dollar. Also I will and bequeath 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal in the hands of my executors to be held and retained by them during the life of Wm. C. Turner and after his death to his heirs if any, if not to return to my estate. I also give my executors power to apply all or any part of the above twelfth part to Wm. C. Turner's necesities if they think proper. 13th - I give and bequeath to my beloved daughter Sarah A. Canady [Note: m. James A. Cannady] 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal. 14th - I will and bequeath to my beloved son James M. Turner 1/12 part of my estate both real and personal. Lastly, I appoint my two sons Stephen Turner and James M. Turner my executors to this my last will and testament as witness whereof I set my hand this ---- 1854. George Turner (Seal) Testi.: Geo. Stanley; Jubal Turner [Note: Jubal Turner was son of Admire Turner, this is my line] INVENTORY OF GEORGE TURNER DECEASED. An inventory of property of George Turner, deceased maded 8th day of September 1854. One Tract of land known as Guilliams tract, - $350.00 25 head of sheep at 7/6, - $31.25 1 yoke of steers, - $50.00 1 Colt, - $12.00 1 log chain, - $2.00 1 waggon, - $30.00 1 apple mill and cider trough, $5.00 3 hogsheads and contents, - $7.50 10 empty hogsheads and old still, - $10.00 1 Brand axed, - $2.00 3 pairs gear, 1 single tree, - $4.50 1 lot cooper's tools, - $1.00 4 Bee hives at 91, - $6.00 1 lot bacon, - $15.00 11 head hogs at 12/, - $22.00 3 plows 22 coult, - $5.00 8 hoes 2 shovels 21 cut saws, - $22.00 7 axes and lot of carpenter tools, - $10.00 2 sythes and cradles, - $1.00 1 set black smith tools, - $35.00 1 grind stone, - $1.50 1 10 gallon pot, - $1.50 33 hog heads at 2.00, - $66.00 11 cows 2 calves, - $130.00 10 head of young cattle, - $60.00 1 bench screws and 2 chisels, - $--.75 15 oot (?) stocks at $4.00, - $60.00 10 gallons of brandy, - $5.00 3 saddles and saddle bags, - $16.00 1 pair steelyards, - $1.00 2 jugs honey, - $2.50 1 coffee mill 1 barrell, - $1.50 1 bedstead and furniture, - $10.00 1 old chest dried fruit, - $12.00 1 bedstead, cord and lot wool, - $5.00 1 lot bed clothing, - $20.00 1 bed stead and furniture, - $12.00 1 old bedstead and furniture, - $12.00 1 lot sheets and table cloths etc, - $3.00 1 flax wheel, - $4.00 1 pair hand irons, - $--.50 1 lot books, - $7.00 1 bureau, - $5.00 1 bureau, - $5.00 1 bedstead and furniture, - $15.00 12 chairs and candle stand, - $7.25 1 clock (possibly a grandfather's clock?), - $7.00 1 desk and book case, - $10.00 2 tables, - $3.00 1 cupboard and contents, - $15.00 1 bedstead and furniture, - $12.00 1 rifle gun and old gun barrel, - $15.00 1 sorrell horse, - $75.00 1 gray horse, - $30.00 1 bay horse, - $50.00 1 slave Libby, - (Expense) 1 slave Bob, - $150.00 1 slave Jack, - $400.00 1 slave Clariborne, - $400.00 1 slave Lucy, - $350.00 1 slave Sam, - $600.00 1 slave Tilda, - $500.00 1 slave Spone, - $800.00 1 slave Lina, - $600.00 1 slave Martha, - $600.00 1 slave Nsebi, - $600.00 1 slave George, - $400.00 1 slave Perry, - $700.00 1 bond on Littleberry Stone, due 4 Mar 1854, - $172.00 1 due bill on Annslid Young, due 5 Oct 1852, - $3.50 1 bond on Wm. Foster, due dec. 1840, - $1.90 (subject to credit of .70 cents paid January 26, 1852) 1 bond Wm. Street & Stephen Trumbull, due Mar 1, 1843 325.00 1 bond on George C. Turner due May 22, 1854, - $44.00 1 bond on Stephen Turner due Oct 31, 1853, - $100.00 (subject to credit of $29.90 paid October 31, 1853) 1 bond on L.F. Claibourne due Oct 15, 1854, - $118.24 1 bond on Elizabeth King due August 13, 1854, - $400.00 (subject to credit of $30.00 paid, Aug 13, 1854. Balance due Jul 13, 1853) 1 bond on Jeffry and Whitfield Turner due May 1, 1852, - $37.25 (subject to credit of $8.20 paid July 13, 1853) 1 bond on Samuel Hoy due September 18, 1848, - $13.22 1 bond on Jos. Nunn and Mary Nunn due Feb 21, 1844, - $171.00 Cash on hand $795.00 Inv. Com. November 15, 1854 1 barn of tobacco, - $50.00 1 barn of tobacco, - $40.00 1 lot of corn, - $82.00 1 lot of shucks, - $2.00 4 blade stacks, - $8.00 4 top stacks, - $5.00 Signed: N.G. McGiffin; Samuel Prillaman; George Stanley; January 1, 1855 --------------------------------------------------------- I find this an interesting will, partly because while George Wilson Turner, his daughter Elizabeth (Turner) King, wife of Solomon King, and descendants of Shadrach Turner, and Jubal Turner, and his sons Whitfield Ross Turner, are all direct ancestors of mine, and Jeffery Turner, another son of Jubal Turner. Jubal was Admire Turner's youngest son, and a grandson of James Turner, who died the same year Jubal was born, 1793. I also think this will gives an impression of what was of value to these families. Items in the house were certainly not of great value. Also I would like to know what items his wife Milly (Stone) Turner, took with her as her dower right, and if they are listed here? ----------------------------------------------------- George Turner and wife Milly (Stone) Turner's children: Obadiah Turner, b. 24 Dec 1802, Elizabeth (Turner) King, b. 19 Aug 1804, d. 28 Nov 1894, m. 16 Sep 1824, Solomon King Stephen Turner, b. 6 Sep 1806 Jane (Turner) Helmes, b. 3 Oct 1808, m. Daniel P. Helms Basheba (Turner) Davis, b. 18 Oct 1810, d. 21 sep 1885, m. 20Oct 1836, Sampson P. Davis Ruth (Turner) Hoy, b. 6 Jul 1812 m. 21 Aug 1838, Samuel Hoy George Clinton Turner, b. 14 Dec 1814 m. 2 Aug 1847, Emeline Menefee Milley Ann (Turner) Cannaday, b. 6 Mar 1817 m. 4 Mar 1836, Peter Cannaday Martha (Turner) Cannaday, b. 3 May 1819 m. 2 Apr 1838, James Cannady, Jr. William Creed Turner, b. 1 Mar 1821 Sarah Hunt (Turner) Cannaday, b. Dec 30, 1823 m. 21 Nov 1843, James A. Cannady James Marshal Turner, b. 14 Apr 1827 Evelyn Alexander beryl@northwest.com 15390 SE La Bonita Milwaukie, OR 97267 ================================================ From: "Evelyn Alexander" To: "Nyla Creed DePauk" Subject: Compilations Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:53:27 -0800 Nyla, I've already said how much I like these compilations. We have to be able to browse thru. If we only know a name, it just isn't going to register with anyone. I have a few thousand names in my data base, how would I be able to tell if there is a relationship if I am told only a few names. Oh well. Now to get to a new confusion for me. I note your Shadrack Turner descent as: Shadrack Turner, 1720-1783/4, m. Ann Hill, 1724-aft 1784. William Turner, 1753-1845, m. Jane Hunter, 1758-1851 John Turner, 1779-1874, m. Nancy Burnett, 1787-1871 John Burnett Turner, Sr. 1715-1897, m. Naomi Angeline Exoney Via, 1821-1898. I know William and Jane (Hunter) had a son Elkanah B. Turner, b. 14 Aug 1801, Henry Co., VA, m. ca 1825, Franklin Co., VA, M. A. Hurd; m2. 27 Oct 1840, Elizabeth C. Wingfield. Also, that Elkanah B. Turner, and his brother John Turner were Primitive Baptist Preachers, which is probably why, John has a son Elkanah B. Turner. I had always assumed (don't ever assume) that the second Elkanah B. was a son of Elkanah B. Turner Sr. But when I checked my group sheets I find only two children by his first wife M. A. Hurd. [Leftwich/Turner Families, by Hopkins], and none listed with his second wife. Elkanah B. Turner, Rev., 1801-(?), m. ca 1825, M. A. Hurd; their children were: Zachary Taylor Turner, b. ca 1826, Franklin Co., VA James Turner, abt 1830, My line is from John's brother George Wilson Turner, m. Milley Stone (Milley Stone, daughter of Stephen Stone, who married Basheba Hurt, who was a dau. of Moses Hurt and Ruth Turner, Ruth was a dau of James Turner). Also found from the same source, page 199, a listing of names that fought in the Revolutionary War. Two Elkanah's are among the listings. Do you know where this name came from? The following are the Christian names of the Turners who were soldiers in the Revolutionary War, according to the report made by the Library Board of the Sate of Virginia in 1912, to the General Assembly of the State, to-wit: Allis; Daniel; Daniel; David; Elkanah; Elkanah; Ellis; Francis; George; George; Henry; Isham; James; Jessee; Jo.; John; John; Joseph Madox; Meredith. Who were these two Elkanah Turner's, that were in the Turner family during the revolutionary war? Could Shadrack Turner have had a son Elkanah? Could a brother of his have had a son Elkanah? I do have a copy of William's will, in which he names his youngest son Elkanah B. Turner, and not only gives him one thirteenth part of his estate, but appoints his beloved sons George Turner, and Elkanah B. Turner, as his executors. Evelyn Alexander beryl@northwest.com ================================================================ From: "Evelyn Alexander" To: "Nyla Creed DePauk" Subject: Descent from George Wilson Turner Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:38:59 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Nyla, Here is my direct descent from George Wilson Turner George Wilson Turner, Capt. 1776-1854, m. Milley Stone, 1780-1864 Elizabeth Turner, 1804-1894, m. Solomon King, ca 1795-1835 Martha Jane King, 1830-1920, m. Whitfield Ross Turner, 1819-1880 George Whitfield Turner, Sr., 1857-1895, m. Della May Stevens, 1873-1962 George Whitfield Turner, Jr., 1895-1973, m. Jessica Pomeroy, 1900-1989 Evelyn Beryl Turner, 1925- , m. Carl Alexander, 1925- , divorced) Here is my direct descent from James Turner James Turner, 1720-1793, m. Mary ---- Admire Turner, 1745-1818, m. Sally Turner, 1749-aft 1821 Jubal Turner, 1793-1862, m. Millie Ross, 1797-1870 Whitfield Ross Turner, 1819-1880, m. Martha Jane King, 1830-1920 [See above George Whitfield Turner, Sr. for remaining descent] I will put together a more complete lineage from Jubal Turner and send it. It seems to be a lost segment in the Turner files, and I need to put it together for David R. Jones and his Turner listings also. Evelyn B. Alexander 15390 SE La Bonita Way Milwaukie, OR 97267 beryl@northwest.com ================================================== EVELYN: Based on my calculations, we are 5th cousins. That's pretty close kin. Is this how you calcuate it? You and my children would be 5th cousins, once removed? NYLA ==================================================== Relationship between Nyla & Evelyn Shadrack Turner Shadrack Turner William Turner William Turner Rev. John Turner brothers George Wilson Turner John Burnett Turner, Sr. 1st C Elizabeth Turner Mary Jane (Turner) Dickens 2nd C Martha Jane (Turner) King Leota (Dickens) Williams 3rd C George Whitfield Turner, Sr. Wilda (Williams) Creed 4th C George Whitfield Turner, Jr. Nyla Creed DePauk 5th C Evelyn Beryl(Turner) Alexander ============================================================ The end of this compilation.