Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:29:21 -0400 (EDT) From: ncreed To: 102125.3126@compuserve.com, 72650.74@compuserve.com, Abinadab@aol.com, ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu, anhughes@palmnet.net, AudraeM@aol.com, BALeMay@LANMAIL.RMC.COM, bbaughan@swva.net, BLACK@globe.com, burnett@kaizen.net, cdorian@accessone.com, cebel@success.net, cgaunt@umich.edu, ChickFlet@aol.com, chlamy@acpub.duke.edu, CHRISTIEFC@aol.com, davidcon@microsoft.com, dfullam@albany.net, dkw@fastlane.net, dmonreal@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us, DP6195@aol.com, ekirkman@swva.net, GDBurnette@aol.com, hoffman@gate.net, HPriddy@aol.com, IRXP500@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU, j.@lgcy.com, JaniceBT@aol.com, jcross@metronet.com, jeffhatfield@mail.del.net, jlampkin@selu.edu, jcox@softcom.net, Jojo1953@aol.com, JShel6674@aol.com, jvturner@freenet.vcu.edu, Knights5@aol.com, Lee_Turner@vapower.com, lrd@ornl.gov, marockem@minot.ndak.net, mcclaran@ionet.net, mildred.collier@bgamug.com, MissusB@aol.com, mlsaps@mcn.net, N4JED@aol.com, ncreed@erols.com, newbet@cy-net.net, Pat-Chesney@hobby.easy.com, pennym@bmi.net, PWard@the.express-news.net, PWhetzel@aol.com, RAinIA@aol.com, Ramaus@ix.netcom.com, REYLEE@aol.com, rhobson@sdcoe.k12.ca.us, RobertT867@aol.com, ross@interramp.com, rspjwp@richmond.infi.net, russt@flex.net, shauck@d.umn.edu, TARichmond@aol.com, tturner@mail.state.tn.us, turner@ccsi.com, turner@mind.net, turners@valu-line.com, waddie@earthlink.com, welitlpigs@earthlink.net, WittBates@aol.com, Nkyates@aol.com, CPRJR@aol.com, PMcMillion@aol.com, JCNi@aol.com, 102255.1415@compuserve.com, betty.lyne@bgamug.com Subject: Compilation #35 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 14 September 1996 Hello Everyone, Hope you find something of interest below. Keep in touch. Nyla Creed DePauk ==================================== From: JaniceBT@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:01:16 -0400 To: ncreed@erols.com Subject: meshack Nyla, Please list the following on the newsletter I have been reading the archives and have not finished yet but am sending the first 3 generation descendency chart on the Meshcak S. Turner who came to Wilkes co GA. Corrections are requested and if there is interest I will be glad to upload additional and or correspond with anyone interested. My husband's line goes Meshack to John H to William Henry (CSA) to Gideon Anderson (CSA) to William Thomas to Thomas Albert Sr to Thomas A. JR. Most of this is wilkes/Lincoln/Elbert co Ga but my info covers much more. Descendants of Meshack S. Turner 1 Meshack S. Turner Abt 1725 - 1794 .. +unknown ..... 2 Shadrack Turner II 1752 - 1820 ......... +Jane unk Abt 1752 - ..... *2nd Wife of Shadrack Turner II: ......... +Margaret Hill 1750 - Bef 1776 m: Abt 1775 in Halifax, Va ............. 3 Mary Elizabeth (Polly)Turner 1776 - 1860 ................. +William Golden 1776 - 1852 m: May 12, 1797 in Lincoln co Ga ............. 3 Richard Turner 1776 - ................. +Mary Henderson Abt 1776 - ............. 3 Lewis Turner 1780 - 1847 ............. 3 Nancy Turner 1782 - 1856 ................. +Elisha Gilliam Crawford 1779 - 1861 m: Oct 2, 1808 in Lincoln Co GA ............. 3 Shadrack Turner III 1787 - 1842 ................. +Unity Gilliam - Abt 1822 m: April 1808 in Lincoln Co, Ga ............. *2nd Wife of Shadrack Turner III: ................. +Sally Lockhart 1792 - 1834 m: Aft 1822 in Linc Co ............. *3rd Wife of Shadrack Turner III: ................. +Mary Taylor m: July 17, 1836 in Richmond Co, Ga ............. 3 William K. Turner 1789 - Bef 1848 ................. +Lucy Butler 1795 - m: February 14, 1818 in Wilkes County GA ............. 3 [2] Sarah Frances "Sally" Turner Bef 1790 - ................. +[1] James Francis Turner Aft 1787 -m: Sept 06, 1806 in Lin Co. Ga ............. 3 Meshack Turner 1790 - ................. +Fanny Tatum 1790 - m: September 28, 1809 in Lincoln Co GA ............. 3 Abednego Turner 1792 - ................. +Patsy Tatum Bef 1795 - m: January 14, 1819 in Lincoln Co ............. 3 James B. Turner 1796 - ................. +Nancy W. Downing 1799 - m: November 18, 1818 in Lincoln Co ............. 3 Elizabeth Turner 1798 - ................. +Samuel Wideman 1801 - m: September 30, 1818 in Lincoln Co ............. 3 Susan Turner 1800 - Bef 1850 ................. +Pharis Martin 1803 - Bef 1850 m: January 13, 1820 in Lin Co Ga ..... 2 Elizabeth Turner Abt 1754 - 1807 ......... +unk Lacy Abt 1754 - ..... *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Turner: ......... +Elisha Pruitt Abt 1754 - Bef 1893 m: Bef 1794 ..... 2 Abednego (A. B.) Turner 1754 - 1802 ......... +unk Collier Abt 1754 - m: Abt 1774 in VA ..... *2nd Wife of Abednego (A. B.) Turner: ......... +Phoebe Waller m: 1801 in Abbeville SC *2nd Wife of Meshack S. Turner: .. +Rebekah Roberson Bef 1740 - 1797 m: February 06, 1760 in Halifax , Va ..... 2 John H. Turner Abt 1762 - 1825 ......... +Patsy Coleman - Aft 1825 m: Bef 1800 ............. 3 Sarah Turner Bef 1800 - ................. +Francis B. Billingslea 1790 - 1852 m: Dec 1811 in Wilkes County GA ............. 3 Stephen Turner Abt 1800 - ............. 3 James S. Turner Abt 1800 - ............. 3 D. Coleman Turner Abt 1800 - ................. +unk ............. 3 unk turner Abt 1800 - ................. +unk Coleman ............. 3 John H. Turner, Jr 1811 - ................. +Nancy A. H. Farrow 1813 - m: July 17, 1839 in Lincoln Co Ga ............. 3 Elizabeth M. Turner Abt 1817 - ............. 3 Martha Turner Abt 1820 - ............. 3 William Henry Turner 1820 - 1903 ................. +Lucy Bunch 1825 - 1858 m: January 28, 1847 in Wilkes County GA ............. *2nd Wife of William Henry Turner: ................. +Elizabeth (Betty) Wolf 1834 - 1924 m: January 08, 1861 ..... 2 Rebeccah Turner 1766 - 1824 ......... +David Ogletree Abt 1760 - 1822 m: 1786 in GA ............. 3 Rebecca Ogletree 1783 - ................. +Benjamin Portwood, Jr 1783 - m: June 15, 1825 in Wilkes Co ............. 3 Turner Ogletree 1798 - 1883 ................. +Mary (Polly) Sanders 1797 - 1895 m: August 28, 1815 ............. 3 David Ogletree Abt 1799 - ................. +Susan Ann Carver Abt 1799 - ............. 3 William Ogletree Abt 1801 - ............. 3 Nancy Ogletree Abt 1803 - ............. 3 Elizabeth Ogletree Abt 1805 - ............. 3 America Ogletree Abt 1807 - ............. 3 Sara Ogletree Abt 1812 - ............. 3 John Ogletree Abt 1814 - ................. +Lively E. Pittman Abt 1814 - ..... 2 Meshack S. Turner, Jr Abt 1768 - 1810 ......... +Sally Farmer m: September 02, 1787 in Pittsylvania, Va ............. 3 Nancy Turner ................. +John Lawson Bef 1800 - m: Dec 31, 1818 in Wilkes Co Ga ............. 3 Jinnie Turner ................. +Pleasant Lawson, Jr m: Bef 1808 ............. 3 Rachael Turner ................. +Bird Pruitt, Jr m: Bef 1806 ............. 3 [1] James Francis Turner Aft 1787 - ................. +[2] Sarah Frances "Sally" Turner Bef 1790 - m: Sept 06, 1806 in Lin co. ............. 3 Meshack Turner 1790 - 1880 ................. +Mary Ann Robertson - 1810 m: June 15, 1809 in Wilkes Co GA ............. *2nd Wife of Meshack Turner: ................. +Sarah Roby Tucker 1801 - 1876 m: July 21, 1818 in Ga ..... 2 James Turner Bef 1772 - ......... +Sarah Coleman Abt 1776 - m: Bef 1793 in Wilkes County GA ............. 3 Sarah W. Turner 1794 - 1859 ............. 3 James Turner 1798 - ............. 3 John Turner 1800 - ............. 3 Daniel Calhoun Turner 1802 - ............. 3 Meshack Turner 1804 - ............. 3 Martha Coleman Turner 1812 - ............. 3 Manuel Turner Abt 1814 - ..... 2 Sarah "Sally" Turner 1776 - ......... +William Billingslea Bef 1784 - ..... 2 Sussanah Turner 1778 - ......... +Philip Wilhite - Bef 1824 ............. 3 Philip Wilhite ............. 3 Meshack T. Willhite Abt 1800 - ............. 3 Geriah G. Willhite Abt 1803 - ................. +Robert C. Oglesby m: December 25, 1823 in Elbert Co ..... *2nd Husband of Sussanah Turner: ......... +unk Oglesby m: Abt 1824 ..... 2 Polly Turner Abt 1780 - ......... +Owen Holloway m: November 25, 1799 in Wilkes Co GA ======================================== Date: 12 Sep 96 21:44:48 EDT From: Jonathan Parker <102255.1415@CompuServe.COM> To: Nyla Creed Subject: Turners to California Nyla, As I mentioned to you before, my Turner ancestors came from Tennessee to California in the 1850s, and I have not had much success in tracing them before that time. However, I do have two items I would like to share with you. At the end is a descendant chart based on the information I have. I'll let you judge if this is suitable material to pass along to your mailing list. First is my GG GF Thomas Marion Turner's obituary, from the San Diego Union, 5 Sept 1894. The informant was probably his wife Elizabeth (Nicholson) Turner. ========================== THOMAS M. TURNER DEAD Passing of One of San Diego's Old Residents Thomas M. Turner died at his residence, 1139 Front Street, in this city, yesterday, aged 65 years. His illness was of three weeks duration, though he had been an invalid from rheumatism for four years, but posessing so much fortitude and energy that he insisted on being out until nine monthes ago, when a prolonged attack of grip so reduced his strength that he had been able to ride out only for a short time each day. Mr. Turner was a native of Bedford County, Tennessee, a son of Col. John Turner, who was prominent in Congress for several terms as senator from Alabama. Mr. Turner crossed the plains in 1852, arriving in Marysville in September of that year, and later moving to San Francisco, where he engaged in the stock business. His stockyard at Tenth and Howard was known all over the state. In 1869 he moved a part of his stock to San Diego, landing by contract at the steamship warf, his freight being a part of the cargo of the first steamer that landed there. In 1875 Mr Turner served as city marshal, and latterly was engaged in the real estate business. He leaves a wife, four daughters, and one son. One of the daughters is the wife of the Hon. Edwin Parker, formerly superior judge. ================================ This second item is a brief family history, written by T.M. Turner's daughter Lillie Turner Raven (b.1869) some time after 1945. The original of this document is an unsigned and undated typescript, on both sides of a single sheet of legal-size paper. There are several typing errors in the original, which are indicated as such in this transcription. Every effort has been made to adhere to the form of the original typescript. The person for whom this recollection was written is not known. =================================== I do not wish my age put in the paper when I pass. Just the date of passing. I was born in San Francisco but raised in San Diego, later moving to Los Angeles. I was married in 1904 to Dr. Fred J. Raven of Wisconsin. Our daughter Elizabeth Arvilla was named after my bother [sic] and Fred's mother. My fater [sic] was Thomas Marion Turner and my mother was Elizabeth Micholson [sic] Turner. My father was born in Alabama but moved to Kentucky--later coming across the plains in a "covered wagon" during the California gold rush of 1849-50 with his parents, brothers and sister and arrived in San Francisco in 1850. His father was Col. John Turner who served with the confederate army during the war between the North and the South. The Mother's name was Sarah. She was a good old doutherner [sic]. There were five boys and one girl in the family, namely: William who was killed by the Indians while crossing the plains when the party was attacked. Robert Turner (Uncle Bob) who had a large ranch but their home was in Oakland. He was a representative at Sacramento at one time. His wife's name was Elizabeth, but was called Aunt Lizzie by the nieces and nephews. She was from the south too. They had three daughters and two sons: Florence Estell, Julia Castleton and Minnie Ainsworth, Ex and Charlie. Charlie died when quite young. Do not think Ex ever married. Benjamin (Uncle BJ) who lived in Hanford and owned the Artesia Hotel which was quite noted in those days for it had an Artesian Well in the center of the lobby. He was married twice. The first wife was named Mollie but they were divorced after a few years. Had one son named Benjamin but nicknamed Hatch. He then married Ellen. She survived him for many years and operated the hotel. Thomas Marion see later on. Alfred was the youngest son. He had a ranch but also lived in Oakland. His wife's name was Fannie. They had three daughters and a son. Emma Blake, Olive Harvey, Blanch Lobbett and the son Clarence. Olive lives in Catalina and is a C.S. Practitioner and Church Director. Blanche lives in Berkeley and as you know Emma has passed. Emma lived in Alaska, (Nome) for many years teaching school where she met Mr. Blake. She could not stand the cold and wanted to come to the U.S., but he did not want to leave his important work there as an engineer so they were divorced. Blanche and Frank's son is named Francis. He was in the army all during the second war. He is married and lives in S.L. Manager of one of the departments in one of the big dry Goods stores there. The daughter's name was Nancy Turner and she married Matt Howwell [sic] of Nevada. They lived in Oakland for many years later going to San Francisco. They had four daughters and a son: Alice, Hattie, Elizabeth, Edna, and Eugene. Alice married Dr. Morse, a successful physician of San Francisco. They had two sons and a daughter. Both sons died during the last war. The youngest enroute to the front and Douglas at his ranch at Hemet. He had a belief of Tuberculosis [sic]. Alice married Joseph B. Banning and lives in Hancock Park, Los Angeles. They have two daughters, Nancy and Katherine. Elizabeth never married. She was an Art teacher in the San Francisco high school for many years. Edna married a M. Newman. They had two children, a son Douglas and a daughter Mary. Douglas is an artist and designs Christmas cards. He lives in the East. Edna divorced Mr. Newman and she went to Italy during the World War as a correspondent for the government. She there met and married an Italian banker. I have forgotten his name. They had a son. Edna passed on eight or nine years ago. She was a C.S. too. Her daughter still lives there and also married an Italian. Eugene Howell lived in Nevada and was in the legislature there. He was married and had several children, but I do not know about them. Hattie (or Harriet) married Judge Cabinas of San Francisco. Avery [sic] popular judge. Always elected at the primaries. He was on the Bench for many years. One son George is now an attourne [sic] in San Francisco, he was a Lt. Col. during the last war. My father med [sic] my mother Elizabeth Nicholson in San Francisco after she had come around the Horn from Boston, Mass, to the Hot Springs in Alcapulca [sic] for treatment of rheumatism. But after a short stay there was entirely relieved and proceded to SF They lived in many parts of Calif, Sacramento Valley, Chico, Marysville, Napa, Santa Rosa finally returning to San Francisco, where my father engaged in the business of fine horses. (blooded horses.) He owned what is now the Civic Center of SF on Market St. A whole block where he had his stable. He sold it for ten thousand dollars (now worth ten million) and moved to San Diego, but only took three or four horses. We girls used to claim the horses, mine was Charlie, Ida's was Prince, I do not remember the others. My father was Chief of Police in San Diego for many years. There was no mayor at the time so he did double duty. He afterwards engaged in the Real Estate business, but had to retire on acct. of his health. Nellie was the oldest daughter and she was married at an early age to Rolla Palmer who was manager of the Hamilton Grocery Store in Oceanside. Ida was the next but she did not marry, preferring to go it single. She was an excellent Apt. manager and was a former secretary for Dr. Manard for many years. Josephine married Edwin Parker who was a Superior Judge for many years. Also served as Assemblyman in Sacramento. One son, Edwin Marion Parker became an attorney and was attorney for Coronado for some time. Mr. Parker planted the trees that are in the park opposite the Grant Hotel. They are very large now and the park has become one of the landmarks of San Diego. You know about me so there is no more to tell. Charlie married Mary Brooke, then Nellie McAnurey, and you know the rest. Two nice girls, Josephine and Virginia was [sic] born to the first union. My mothers father was John Nicholson and her Mother's name was Catherine and they came to San Francisco from Boston Mass about the time of the Gold Rush, 1849-50. They had three daughters and a son: Mary Rose and Elizabeth but I do not remember the son's name. Mary married James Burns and had several children, but I never knew their names. I do not remember who Rose married but I know that she was a crank of a houskeeper, even made her husband take off his shoes before he came in the main part of the house. His slippers were by the kitchen door. Elizabeth married Tom Turner. After my Grandfather passed (He was an Episcopalian) my grandma joined the "Dominical Sisters" a Catholic Organization. After a few years she became totally bling [sic] and Mama had her brought to our home in San Diego where she passed on after several years. She learned to go all over the house, upstairs and down all by herself, which was remarkable. That is about all I know except my mother never accepted the Catholic faith, but went with her father to the Episcopal church. Ia [sic] was a member of the Episcopal church in Hollywood. Uncle Fred, Ida Blanche and I were confirmed the same day and Elizabeth was baptized the next day and Blanche was God mother. ==================================== 1. John Turner & Sarah 2. William Turner 2. Robert Turner & Elizabeth 3. Florence Turner & Estell 3. Julia Turner & Castleton 3. Minnie Turner & Ainsworth 3. Ex Turner 3. Charlie Turner 2. Benjamin Turner & Mollie 3. Benjamin (Hatch) Turner 2. Benjamin Turner & Ellen 2. Thomas Marion Turner (1829-1894) & Elizabeth Nicholson (1837-1908) 3. Nellie A. Turner (1860-1899) & Rolla Palmer (1858-1890) 3. Ida Gertrude Turner (1862-) 3. Mary Josephine Turner (1865-1905) & Edwin Parker (1832-1900) 4. Edwin Marion Parker Sr. (1888-1960) & Ethel Valencia Barry (1888-1968) 5. Edwin Marion Parker Jr. (1917-) & Edith Nickelsburg (1924-) 6. Edwin Marion Parker III (1946-) & Antoinette "Dee" Girot (1944-) 6. Janet Ethel Parker (1949-) & Arnold Shea 7. Everet Marvin Shea (1979-) 6. Jaqueline Elizabeth Parker (1954-) & David Sekulski 7. Joshua David Sekulski (1973-) & Dawn 8. Joshua Parker Sekulski (1995-) 6. Jaqueline Elizabeth Parker (1954-) & William Nagel 7. Nickolas William (Nagel) Lopez (1979-) 6. Jaqueline Elizabeth Parker (1954-) & Roberto Lopez (1955-) 7. Marcela Chavez Ramirez Lopez (1977-) 7. Nickolas William (Nagel) Lopez (1979-) 7. Robert Jose Lopez Jr. (1981-) 7. Reyes Pascual Lopez (1983-) 7. Maria Isabel Chavez Lopez (1984-) 7. Emelio Edwardo Lopez (1987-) 6. Jonathan Melvil Parker (1956-) & Mary Jean Earnest (1951-) 7. Genevieve Louise Parker (1989-) 7. Claire Ruth Parker (1992-) 5. Wendell Barry Parker (1924-) & Anna 6. Wendell Barry Parker Jr. & Renee 7. Bobby Jo Parker 6. Friedrich Marion Parker 5. Wendell Barry Parker (1924-) & Florence Flores 3. Lillie T. Turner (1869-) & Fred J. Raven M. D. 4. Elizabeth Arvilla Raven 3. Charles A. Turner (1874-) & Mary E. Brooke (1877-1898) 4. Josephine Turner & James S. Whyte 4. Virginia Turner 3. Charles A. Turner (1874-) & Nellie McAnurey 2. Alfred Turner & Fannie 3. Emma Turner & Blake 3. Olive Turner & Harvey 3. Blanche Turner & Frank Lobbett 4. Francis Lobbett 3. Clarence Turner 2. Nancy Turner & Matt Howell 3. Alice Howell & Morse M.D. 4. ? 4. Douglas 4. Alice & Joseph B. Banning 5. Nancy Banning 5. Katherine Banning 3. Harriet (Hattie) Howell & Cabinas 3. Elizabeth Howell 3. Edna Howell & M. Newman 3. Eugene Howell ==================================== Jonathan Parker 1732 1/2 Upas Street San Diego, California 92103 email: 102255.1415@compuserve.com ======================================= From: N4JED@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 10:46:32 -0400 To: ncreed@erols.com Subject: Thanks Nyla and the List, My thanks to everyone who has sent additions and corrections to my TURNER list. Let me work on them a couple months along with some additional sources I have here and I will post a new listing for comment.... Happy hunting, David Jones n4jed@aol.com ============================================= The end of this compilation.