Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:59:05 EST From: NCreed1 To: NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp #324 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 10 Jan 1998 Greetings: A big welcome to our new folks. Check out all our compilations on Chris Gaunt's home page: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt Nyla CREED DePauk San Diego, CA ===================== Subj: Eternal Line Date: 98-01-09 11:19:41 EST From: ekirkman@swva.net (Eunice B. Kirkman) To: ncreed1@AOL.COM (Nyla Creed) Did you see this on Roots-L? I read the book many years ago and had forgotten this. I think it explains our feelings about family lines far better than, certainly, I could ever express. From: How Green Was My Valley by Richard Lewellyn I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front, to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt, so they had felt, and were to feel, as then, so now, as to-morrow and forever. Then I was not afraid, for I was in a long line that had no beginning, and no end, and the hand of his father grasped my father's hand, and his hand was in mine, and my unborn son took my right hand, and all, up and down the line that stretched from Time That Was, to Time That Is, and is not yet, raised their hands to show the link, and we found that we were one, born of Woman, Son of Man, had in the Image, fashioned in the Womb by the Will of God, the Eternal Father. I was of them, they were of me, and in me, and I in all of them." Eunice B. Kirkman -------- ekirkman@swva.net -=| Virginia - The cradle of the nation |=- ======================= Subj: Re: Comp #323 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 98-01-09 11:00:54 EST From: GstAmcot To: NCreed1 Thank you for the info. I received your email. Thanks again. Linda ====================== Subj: The Order Book Records Date: 98-01-09 11:13:21 EST From: ekirkman@swva.net (Eunice B. Kirkman) To: ncreed1@AOL.COM (Nyla Creed) Sometime back, I'd have to pull up records to quote exactly, there was a posting of the very early Turner line beginning with a Richard Turner who was the father of John, who was the father of our Shadrack. The lady cited either Orange County, or Caroline County, Va Order Books as the source of her info, later promising to send copy's of them. I just wondered if anyone had received them, or had checked them out. Eunice B. Kirkman -------- ekirkman@swva.net -=| Virginia - The cradle of the nation |=- ========================= Subj: Arthur Bishop Via Date: 98-01-09 11:16:16 EST From: ekirkman@swva.net (Eunice B. Kirkman) To: ncreed1@AOL.COM (Nyla Creed) For David: This is what I have in my files on Arthur Via. I have deleted the birthdates of those who are probably living today. I believe this info came off this list about a year or so ago. =================================== Husband: Arthur Bishop Via ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Born: 11-Dec-1904 in: PCVA Died: in: Father: James Flemming Via Mother: Mary Francis Pilson ================================================== Wife: Mary Elizabeth Bryant Married: 1924 in: Marr. Ceremony? Y/N: Y Divorced/Annulled/Separated: D End Year: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Born: 22-Dec-1902 in: Died: 18-Aug-1980 in: Father: Mother: =============================================== F Child 1 Selma Loleta Via Spouse: Denard Lee Gusler Marr. Ceremony? Y/N: Y ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- F Child 2 Mary Genevieve Via Died: in: Spouse: Raymond Lee Stone Marr. Ceremony? Y/N: Y ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- F Child 3 Avis Jacqueline Via Died: in: Spouse: Sam Frank Smith, Jr. Marr. Ceremony? Y/N: Y ====================================================== 2nd Wife: Lucille Stevens Married: in: Divorced/Annulled/Separated: D End Year: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Born: in: Died: in: Father: Mother: ==================================================== 3rd Wife: Hazel Gibson Married: in: Marr. Ceremony? Y/N: Y ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 1 Pamela Ann Via Born: in: Henry Co., VA Died: in: ^R-------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- M Child 2 Authur B. Via, Jr. Born: in: Sarasota, FL Died: in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- M Child 3 Daniel Via Born: in: Sarasota, FL Died: in: ======================================== Subj: Benjamin, Mathias, and another John Date: 98-01-09 13:19:23 EST From: sky@gulf.net (Sharon) Reply-to: sky@gulf.net To: NCreed1@aol.com I would appreciate any help on the following Turners. I suspect they were related. I am descended from John. Benjamin, b.~1738, m. Mollie Knox Mathias, b. 1758 John Harbinger, b. ~1786 SC/NC?, m. Hediah Rives John's children were born in Cass/Bartow Co, GA. Is there a connection with Meshack? THanks a bunch for any tidbit of information on these folks! Sharon sky@gulf.net =============================== Subj: William Crawford Lackey Date: 98-01-10 08:36:51 EST From: HarrisSEM To: NCreed1 Hi! Hope everything is going well for you in this new year. You and David have certainly been keeping us busy sending out all the latest information that everyone has kindly sent in. This is such a nice group! Anyway, I noticed that I could add some further info to some people, so here they are in 3 separate messages for clarity. Descendants of William Crawford Lackey (son John Lackey & Ruth Turner) #1155 1 Lackey, William Crawford b: April 1831 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: 1901-1909 in Patrick Co. Virginia ? . +Sneed, Martha J. b: June 1850 in Patrick Co. Virginia m: May 22, 1867 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: June 23, 1927 in Patrick Co. Virginia ( dau. Samuel Sneed, Jr. & P. Mary Foley) All children born in Patrick Co., VA .. 2 Lackey, Wiliam E. b: Abt 1869 .. 2 Lackey, Samuel J. b: April 1870, m. Mary C. abt. 1896 .. 2 Lackey, George W. b: March 16, 1872 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: November 13, 1962 ...... +Turner, Elizabeth Ruth "Betty Ruth" b: 1871-1873 in Franklin Co., Virginia m: February 24, 1889 in Franklin Co., Virginia d: April 9, 1918 ( dau. James W. Turner & Susan A. Adams) ....... 3 Lackey, Sarah Lou b: October 27, 1897 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: September 8, 1928 in Patrick Co. Virginia ........... +Rakes, Shade Lee b: December 15, 1899 in Franklin Co. Virginia m: January 28, 1920 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: December 20, 1987 in Bassett, Virginia ( son John Jefferson Rakes & Malinda Ruth Turner) ....... 3 Lackey, Mollie R. b: June 1891 in Patrick Co. Virginia ....... 3 Lackey, Elkanah W. "Caine" b: July 1893 in Patrick Co. Virginia ........... +Rakes, Linda Annie b: May 15, 1895 in Franklin Co., Virginia d: October 29, 1983 ( dau John Jefferson Rakes & Malinda Ruth Turner ) ....... 3 Lackey, Malinda Bulah b: December 1895 in Patrick Co. Virginia ....... 3 Lackey, Emma J. b: October 1899 in Patrick Co. Virginia ....... 3 Lackey, Ellen ? M. b: Abt 1901 in Patrick Co. Virginia .. *2nd Wife of George W. Lackey: ...... +Jamerson, Lizzie m: Aft 1918 ( a widow) .. 2 Lackey, Judith ? R. b: Abt 1874 .. 2 Lackey, John J. b: Abt 1878 .. 2 Lackey, Martha J. b: Abt 1879 .. 2 Lackey, Henry C. b: April 1883 .. 2 Lackey, Carroll M. b: April 1885 ( a male) .. 2 Lackey, Matt F. b: March 1888 .. 2 Lackey, Charlie W. b: May 1891 According to the 1900 census, William Crawford Lackey and Martha Sneed had 12 children. 11 lived, but I can only account for 10 of them. Sherry ============================== Subj: James W. Turner Date: 98-01-10 08:54:02 EST From: HarrisSEM To: NCreed1 Descendants of James W. Turner #13479 ( son Josiah Hunter Turner, Jr. & Malinda Ruth Ingram) 1 Turner, James W. b: June 1848 in Franklin Co., Virginia d: Aft 1910 . +Adams, Susan Ann b: August 13, 1852 in Patrick Co. Virginia m: November 17, 1870 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: December 8, 1949 in Henry Co., Virginia ( dau. Joshua Thompson Adams & Elizabeth S. Ingram) All of their children born in Franklin Co., VA .. 2 Turner, Elizabeth Ruth "Betty Ruth" b: 1871-1873 in Franklin Co., Virginia d: April 9, 1918 ...... +Lackey, George W. b: March 16, 1872 in Patrick Co. Virginia m: February 24, 1889 in Franklin Co., Virginia d: November 13, 1962 ( son William Crawford Lackey & Martha J. Sneed) ....... 3 Lackey, Sarah Lou b: October 27, 1897 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: September 8, 1928 in Patrick Co. Virginia ........... +Rakes, Shade Lee b: December 15, 1899 in Franklin Co. Virginia m: January 28, 1920 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: December 20, 1987 in Bassett, Virginia ( son John Jefferson Rakes & Malinda Ruth Turner ) ....... 3 Lackey, Mollie R. b: June 1891 in Patrick Co. Virginia ....... 3 Lackey, Elkanah W. "Caine" b: July 1893 in Patrick Co. Virginia ........... +Rakes, Linda Annie b: May 15, 1895 in Franklin Co., Virginia d: October 29, 1983 ( dau John Jefferson Rakes & Malinda Ruth Turner ) ....... 3 Lackey, Malinda Bulah b: December 1895 in Patrick Co. Virginia ....... 3 Lackey, Emma J. b: October 1899 in Patrick Co. Virginia ....... 3 Lackey, Ellen ? M. b: Abt 1901 in Patrick Co. Virginia .. 2 Turner, Mary b: Abt 1874 .. 2 Turner, Exoney Malinda b: April 1877 m. to James J. Lovil abt 1902. She was his second wife. .. 2 Turner, Sarah b: Abt 1879 .. 2 Turner, Henry b: August 1881 .. 2 Turner, Alexander b: March 1884 .. 2 Turner, Peter C. b: April 1887 .. 2 Turner, Sidney H. b: March 1890 .. 2 Turner, Martha S. b: April 1893 .. 2 Turner, John A. b: April 1897 Sherry ================================ Subj: John Sneed Date: 98-01-10 08:59:10 EST From: HarrisSEM To: NCreed1 Descendants of John Sneed 1 Sneed, John . +Pedigo, Nancy .. 2 Sneed, Samuel, Sr. b: 1791 in Franklin Co. Virginia d: April 8, 1856 in Patrick Co. Virginia ...... +Turner, Esther "Easter" b: November 26, 1797 in Patrick Co. Virginia m: September 14, 1815 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: 1848 in Patrick Co. Virginia ( dau of Adam Turner and Mary Nancy Pilson) ....... 3 Sneed, Jency ....... 3 Sneed, Judith ........... +Nowlen, John m: January 5, 1850 in Patrick Co. Virginia ( also spelled as Knowlin) ....... 3 Sneed, Mames ....... 3 Sneed, Martha "Mattie" ........... +Houchins, Abraham m: August 3, 1849 in Patrick Co. Virginia ....... 3 Sneed, Mary ........... +Nowlin, Wilson "Witt" m: September 1, 1840 in Patrick Co. Virginia ( son of John Nowlin & Mary "Polly" Thomas) ....... 3 Sneed, John T. b: Abt 1815 ........... +Foley, Salley m: January 29, 1838 in Patrick Co. Virginia ....... 3 Sneed, Abraham b: January 10, 1820 ........... +Turner, Rebecca "Polly" b: 1824-1827 m: November 24, 1840 in Patrick Co. Virginia ( dau of Francis Turner, Jr., & Nancy Thomas ) ....... 3 Sneed, Samuel, Jr b: 1826 in Virginia d: Aft 1880 in Patrick Co. Virginia ........... +Foley, P. Mary b: 1825-1833 in Viginia m: Abt 1845 d: Aft 1880 in Patrick Co. Virginia ............ 4 Sneed, Martha J. b: June 1850 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: June 23, 1927 in Patrick Co. Virginia ................ +Lackey, William Crawford b: April 1831 in Patrick Co. Virginia m: May 22, 1867 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: 1901-1909 in Patrick Co. Virginia ? ............ 4 Sneed, Judith b: Abt 1847 ............ 4 Sneed, Carroll b: Abt 1848 ............ 4 Sneed, Samuel S. b: Abt 1853 ............ 4 Sneed, L---( female) b: Abt 1866 ............ 4 Sneed, Female b: Abt 1868 ....... 3 Sneed, Frances b: Abt 1835 in Patrick Co. Virginia .. *2nd Wife of Samuel Sneed, Sr.: ...... +Moran, Elizabeth m: September 5, 1849 in Patrick Co. Virginia Sherry ============================== Subj: Mailing List Date: 98-01-09 22:01:29 EST From: skincaid@usit.net (Sherranlynn Kincaid Nichols) To: NCReed1@AOL.com Hi Nyla Please Remove me from the mailing list. I've started one for Giles Co. TN and have to cut down on some incoming mail. Sherranlynn ============================== "If I had my chlidren to raise over again, I'd finger paint more, and point the finger less. I'd do less correcting, and more connecting. I'd take my eyes off my watch, and watch with my eyes. I would care to know less, and know to care more. I'd take more hikes and fly more kites. I'd stop playing serious, and serioulsy play. I would run through more fields and gaze at more stars. I'd do more hugging, and less tugging. I would be firm less often, and affirm much more. I'd build self-esteem first, and the house later. I'd teach less about the love of power, and more about the power of love". =========================== I'VE LEARNED....... I've learned that I like my teacher because she cries when we sing "Silent Night." Age 6 I've learned that you can't hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of milk. Age 7 I've learned that when I wave to people in the country, they stop what they are doing and wave back. Age 9 I've learned that just when I get my room the way I like it, Mom makes me clean it up. Age 13 I've learned that if you want to cheer yourself up, you should try cheering someone else up. Age 14 I've learned that although it's hard to admit it, I'm secretly glad my parents are strict with me. Age 15 I've learned that silent company is often more healing than words of advice. Age 24 I've learned that brushing my child's hair is one of life's great pleasures. Age 26 I've learned that wherever I go, the worlds worst drivers have followed me there. Age 29 I've learned...that if someone says something unkind about me, I must live so that no one will believe it. Age 39 I've learned that there are people who love you dearly but just don't know how to show it. Age 41 I've learned that you can make someone's day by simply sending them a little card. Age 44 I've learned that the greater a person's sense of guilt, the greater his need to cast blame on others. Age 46 I've learned that children and grandparents are natural allies. Age 47 I've learned that singing "Amazing Grace" can lift my spirits for hours. Age 49 I've learned that motel mattresses are better on the side away from the phone. Age 50 I've learned that you can tell a lot about a man by the way he handles these three things: a rainy day, lost luggage, and tangled Christmas tree lights. Age 52 I've learned that keeping a vegetable garden is worth a medicine cabinet full of pills. Age 52 I've learned that regardless of your relationship with your parents, you miss them terribly after they die. Age 53 I've learned that making a living is not the same thing as making a life. Age 58 I've learned that if you want to do something positive for your children, try to improve your marriage. Age 61 I've learned that life sometimes gives you a second chance. Age 62 I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catchers mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. Age 64 I've learned that if you pursue happiness, it will elude you. But if you focus on your family, the needs of others, your work, meeting new people, and doing the very best you can, happiness will find you. Age 65 I've learned that whenever I decide something with kindness, I usually make the right decision. Age 66 I've learned that everyone can use a prayer. Age 72 I've learned that it pays to believe in miracles. And to tell the truth, I've seen several. Age 73 I've learned that even when I have pains, I don't have to be one. Age 82 I've learned that every day you should reach out and touch someone. People love that human touch-holding hands, a warm hug, or just a friendly pat on the back. Age 85 I've learned that I still have a lot to learn. Age 92 Please pass this on to someone you care about. Sometimes they just need a little something to make them smile.... ======================== The end of this compilation.