Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:11:36 EST From: NCreed1 To: NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp #278 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 26 Dec 1997 Hello to Everyone: Hope everyone had a Wonderful Christmas and had some time to work on genealogy this week. Some eMails for you to read. All our compilations can be read, searched and downloaded at: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt Be sure to check for your families. Nyla CREED DePauk San Diego CA =============================== Subj: Re: Arthur B. VIA Date: 97-12-25 09:45:40 EST From: BEColvin To: NCreed1 I was reading the Sarasota Herald Tribune just now and came across an obituary for Arthur B. Via, 93, Arcadia and formerly of Sarasota, died 12/23/97. He was born 12/11/1904 in Patrick Co., VA and came to Sarasota in 1955 from Martinsville, VA. He founded Via's Bar on Stickney Pt. Rd. in Sarasota, co- founded Martinsville Speedway and owned Rapid Transit Bus Co. in Martinsville. He was an Army vet of ww11 and the oldest living member of Travelers Protective assoc. of America in st. Louis. Survivors include six daughters, Selma Gusler of Micanopy, Genevieve stone of Collinsville, VA, Jacqueline Smith of Martinsville, Brenda Beychok of Phoenix, Frances Clyne of Tuscon, AZ and Pamela Meer of Sharpsburg, GA.; three sons, Arthur B. Jr., and Danny B both of Arcadia, and Allen L. of Venice; three sisters, rachel and Verna both of Hopewell, VA and Vivian V. Rice of NC; 14 grandchildren; and serverl great grandchildren. The memoria service will be at 11:00 a.m. Sunday at Robarts Funeral Home, bee ridge rd., Sarasota. Memorial donations may be made to FL Sheriff's Youth Ranches P.O. Box 2000 Boys Ranch, FL 32064 I am quite certain this must be relevant to some people on this list. Beth in FL ======================= Thank you, Beth. Anyone able to place Mr. Arthur B Via? Nyla ======================= Subj: Confused with 2nd Generation from Lind.ged Date: 97-12-25 10:31:11 EST From: MarbleDB@interoz.com (DeCody Brad Marble) Reply-to: MarbleDB@interoz.com To: NCreed1@aol.com (NCreed1) Copy for Nyla Subject: Confused with 2nd Generation from Lind.ged Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 09:26:16 -0800 From: DeCody Brad Marble To: tdmcm@pilot.infi.net References: 1 Hello Tessy McMillan: Lineage Descendancy Printout from Gedcom Lind.ged The second generation has John2 (John Sr??) born 1689 marring Elizabeth Brashiers in 1718. Then John3 Jr. marring Elizabeth Brashier It looks like by the reference (Brashear Book) John Jr. married Elizabeth and John Sr. married a Sarah Would not this be in error for JOHN2 TURNER He married ELIZABETH BRASHIERS July 01, 1718 in Queen Ann's Parish, Prince Georges, Maryland. (SHOULD BE SARAH???) print out follows for 2nd generation ================================================== Generation No. 2 2. JOHN2 TURNER (RICHARD1) was born Abt. 1689 in England, and died Bef. 1736 in Caroline County, Virginia. He married ELIZABETH BRASHIERS July 01, 1718 in Queen Ann's Parish, Prince Georges, Maryland. Children of JOHN TURNER and ELIZABETH BRASHIERS are: i. JOHN3 TURNER , JR., b. England; d. 1763, Henry County, Virginia; m. ELIZABETH BRASHEAR. Notes for JOHN TURNER , JR.: Brashear Book, page 295: Elizabeth Brashear, born July 27, 1699, in Prince Wiliam Co., MD married John Turner, Jr. son of John and Sarah Turner, Sr. on July 1, 1718. ii. ELIZABETH TURNER. iii. SARAH TURNER. iv. ANN TURNER. 3. v. SHADRACK TURNER, b. 1720, England (Prince George, England Co., VA?); d. 1783, Henry County, Virginia. 4. vi. MESHACK TURNER, b. Abt. 1725, Virginia (England County?); d. January 28, 1794, Wilkes County, Georgia. vii. ABEDNEGO TURNER, b. 1730, England; d. 1750, Virginia. ======================= Subj: Re: Descendants of Richard Turner - 3 Generations Date: 97-12-25 10:43:56 EST From: ekirkman@swva.net (Eunice B. Kirkman) To: NCreed1@AOL.COM (NCreed1) Nyla, The info was sent to me. It would be nice if all of this ended some of the mystery about Shadrach, but I don't think so. She promises to send Brad copies of the Order Book(?) If so, I'd sure like to see them. Wouldn't it be nice if she had included Book and page numbers? I just would not be comfortable about including this in my own files. Merry Christmas! Eunice ====================== Subj: Newman and Ingram Date: 97-12-25 14:42:45 EST From: BEColvin To: NCreed1 Here is some Newman information Nyla and a little about Ingram too. Husband: NEWMAN, Nimrod Sr. - born: 1740 @ Wife: ARTHUR, Sarah - born: 1739 @ Marr: 1762 at Bedford Cty, Hillsville, VA Seal: at Children: 1.XNEWMAN, Nimrod Jr. - born: 1785 @ 2.NEWMAN, Arthur - born: 1764 @ 3.NEWMAN, Rebekah - born: 1768 @ 4.NEWMAN, Betsey - born: 1771 @ 5.NEWMAN, Martha Patsy - born: 1774 @ 6.NEWMAN, Sidney - born: 1776 @ 7.NEWMAN, Rosina "Cena" - born: 1778 @ 8.NEWMAN, Jesse - born: 1781 @ 9.NEWMAN, Byrd - born: 1787 @ 10.NEWMAN, Emily - born: 1789 @ 11.NEWMAN, Garrett - born: 1782 @ 12.NEWMAN, Sarah (Sally) - @ Husband: NEWMAN, Nimrod Jr. - born: 1785 @ Wife: WILE(D)MAN, Deborah - born: 1787 @ Marr: 1 Mar 1808 at Hillsville, Grayson, VA Seal: at Children: 1.XNEWMAN, William W. - born: 1811 @ 2.NEWMAN, Nancy M. - @ 3.NEWMAN, John Alexander* - born: 1817 @ 4.NEWMAN, Deborah M. - @ 5.NEWMAN, Lydia Sarah* - @ 6.NEWMAN, Arthur - born: 1808 @ 7.NEWMAN, Jesse - born: 1810 @ 8.NEWMAN, Israel Nimrod ISRAEL* - born: 1819 @ Name: NEWMAN, Israel Nimrod ISRAEL* - Sex: Male Birth: 1819 at Carroll County, VA Spouses: 1.X EDWARDS, Rosannah - born: 27 Jan 1826 @ VA Notes General Notes: Israel was never known as Nimrod. In the 1870 census he and = Jonathan 17, Eliza A.14, Vienna A. 9, Rachel 5, Marion D. 3 and Charity 1 Husband: Edwards, John - born: ABT 1679 @ NJ Wife: Ingram, Mary - @ Marr: 2 Jul 1700 at Burlington, NJ Seal: at Children: 1.XEdwards, Hanuel - born: ABT 1706 @ 2.Edwards, David - born: ABT 1716 @ 3.Edwards, Jeremiah - born: ABT 1718 @ 4.Edwards, Joshua - @ 5.Edwards, Isaac - @ ================== Subj: Searching for Itele Anita TURNER Date: 97-12-25 16:27:02 EST From: yasoked@shani.net (YASO) Reply-to: yasoked@bigfoot.com To: turner-l@rootsweb.com, ncreed1@AOL.com > I received your name and E Mail address through Lonnie Fink, Site Manager > KY Unknown County Pages who was not able to help me in the counties she > covers and adviced that I turn to you. > > I am searching for Anita TURNER who I believe > was born around 1936-37. Her mother's name is Itele TURNER her married name but am not 100% sure>< If this was her married, I do > not know her maiden name> might have been S.L. TURNER and most likely born around 1900-15>. Itele > was born between 1900-18 1915 than 1900>. > > The reason that I believe that the TURNERS were born and raised in > Kentucky, because Itele received her B.S. degree or latest in the early 1930s> from what was then Western Kentucky State > Teachers College, I do not know if she attended and received her degree > under her maiden name or under the name of TURNER her maiden name too>. > The cardinal question is could you help me? I know it is not an easy > task. The question is could you in any way try to find some sort of computer program> an Itele, since I believe that Itele is > not a very common first name? If not can you give me some sort of advice > on where to turn? > > TIA Aizic Sechter ========================== Folks: Does anyone recognize the names Itele or Anita TURNER? Perhaps someone knows a good source to locate people. ========================== Subj: More Questions Date: 97-12-26 08:28:13 EST From: N4JED To: NCreed1 Nyla, Another question from your listing of Comp 268... You have a Nancy Via (daughter of James Via and Mary Dehart) listed as b. 1837 and d.1857. In Pilson's book there is a Nancy E. Via buried in James Via's Cemetery with the dates d. 5 Mar. 1864, age 16 yrs. 7 mo. 16 days (making birth 18 July 1847) apparently next to James and Mary's stones. Are these one and the same people? Same family, Fleming Via, you list b. 1831, d. 1839. Next to the above in Pilsons book for James' cemetery is Fleming Via with the following tombstone dates - b.1834 d. 7 June, 1844. David ======================== Subj: Mistakes? What mistakes? Date: 97-12-26 09:05:22 EST From: N4JED To: NCreed1 >>David: You make it really difficult for me to be perfect. Why am I the only person who makes mistakes? Nyla<< Actually no, you're not. You just happen to be the only person other than myself who sticks their neck out often on the same family line as mine. So, I just want to make sure us chickens and roosters are crowing the same tune :-) Oh, and we all make perfect mistakes..... Thanks for humoring me, David Oh, I saw this quote once from about 100 years ago... "History is that which is most often repeated...who needs facts?" ======================= David: You would think I would learn by now not to stick my neck out so often. Nyla ======================== Subj: WOOD family Date: 97-12-26 12:37:16 EST From: N4JED To: jprince@cwv.net CC: NCreed1 Judy, Since, as you say, every other researcher has the family connection of John WOOD and Nellie ___ to Parents Stephen WOOD and Ann JOHNSON with John and Nellie's children being at least Richard, Henry, Ellender and Elizabeth, could you elaborate on what convinced you that a researcher in PA has correctly made a different connection? Could you share with us your listing of John's wife and children so we can see how it differs? Is there additional info on Stephen WOOD and Ann JOHNSON (I have never seen any)? Like you, I keep coming across the listing as I sent it out over Nyla's Compilations from a variety of sources including 2 separate listings published by the Patrick - Henry Counties Allied Families in 1978 along with several books here in the Roanoke Library. Yes, these all could be in error since everyone traces there connection through Richard (if I remember correctly). And , I have not come across any of the other children in records here yet. But, family tradition is hard to break (I have been jumped all over by several elders in the Allied Families -even with documentation in hand- to suggest something other than tradition). The WOOD family is not direct to me so I have not researched it like my own but have built up info as I came across it. Anything you would caer to share on this would be appreciated. David Jones Architect Vinton, VA n4jed@aol.com ======================= Subj: UMBARGER family Date: 97-12-26 12:59:09 EST From: N4JED To: ptrane@juno.com CC: NCreed1 Phil, I have several UMBARGERS married into my REPASS and HARKRADER lines and a whole lot of UMBERGERS who are direct line. These all are from the Wythe County area. I do not have any of the other names you are searching. You might want to check out http://artsci.wustl.edu/~stone/history/ It has a lot of connections for Southwest Virginia families. David Jones Architect n4jed@aol.com ==================== Subj: BURNETT-TURNER Date: 97-12-26 16:32:12 EST From: lagsanchez@hotmail.com (Linda Sanchez) To: NCreed1@AOL.COM Nyla, I'm still new here and I have been trying to figure out the connection between the BURNETTS and the TURNERS. Could you possibly help me out. Thanks-Linda lagsanchez@hotmail.com ========================== Linda: For several of us, we connect the BURNETTs and TURNERs through the Rev. John TURNER who married Nancy E BURNETT in Patrick Co VA on 15 October 1804. When we originally started this group, most of the interest was in families from Southwestern Virginia. However, these families have spread across the entire U.S.A. In fact, some of the families that some of our group are researching probably weren't related to the Southern Virginia group; but we welcome folks who are searching these family names or other families that are related through marriage. We all keep searching for that missing family link. If you want to tell us again about your family, please do. With 208 folks on our mailing list, it never hurts to remind us which family you're researching. Nyla ============================ The end of this compilation.