Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:12:30 -0500 (EST) From: NCreed1@aol.com To: NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp 247 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 4 Nov 1997 Greetings to Everyone: A total of 111 folks have responded. That's about 60%. I would really like to hear from the rest of the group. Come on folks, only 4 questions to answer: (1) Gender, (2) Age category (under 30) (30-50) (50+), (3) Occupation, and (4) Status as a Genealogist (Amateur)(Professional) (Or any other category that best fits you). Thanks to everyone who has shared information beyond the four questions. This is an interesting group of cousins. Nyla CREED DePauk San Diego CA ======================= Subj: Re: Comp 242 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-11-04 00:01:43 EST From: sheldoe7@Ra.MsState.Edu (Aubrey W. Shelton) To: NCreed1@aol.com Dear Nyla; in response to the questions, the Scottish games are held at Grandfather Mountain, NC, every July. We attended, borrowed the flags and tartans and etc. from Burnetts who were there and who were manning the Burnett tent. I also bought a couple of yards of Burnett tartan while we were there so as to make 18th century costumes for the next time we go. If you haven't gone, these games are just wonderful. Many Scottish events, many family tents, Kirkin' the Tartan on Sunday, Scottish foods, Scottish singers and bagpipe bands, everything to make you glad you have Scottish blood. There were even some hairy Highland cattle there. You can find information about the games on the Internet. Several other states have Scottish games also. Mary Shelton ==================== Subj: Turner Date: 97-11-04 01:38:24 EST From: jdresser@richmond.edu (adedresser) Nyla, I have previously responded to the Humor David survey - with (literally) one word answers to your questions. I give up - I've been sucked into all the interesting info. folks have sent in. I will embellish my original response to say that my entry to the joys of genealogy was surely predestined! I am both the oldest child and the oldest grandchild in my family, and I married another one of similar fate - and I think those of us who came first were the benefactors of all the family stories and visits to old farms, not to mention all the cemeteries on "Decoration Day"! Those family names became 'real people' to us from the time we were little ones. My younger brothers and all the other grandkids have little memory of feather beds with chamber pots underneath (VERY cold!) and water that had to be pumped, etc. My husband and I consider this both a blessing and an obligation - it's our responsibility to pass as much of this on as we can. Of course, I take great joy in ADDING to what I was given, a task made possible by things like computers and the internet! Inbetween the survey results, I have eagerly read the TURNER data, hoping to find my Henry. It appears to me that the year 1700 is almost a magic barrier. Does anyone have Turner's in VA or NC before 1700? My HENRY TURNER wrote his will in about 1712, naming wife Patience and several sons and daughters. He had apparently been mustered up with other Virginians to answer a call for help from North Carolina when the local Indians were beginning one of their periodic attempts to repress further Anglo incursions to their homelands. He must have known what danger he would face, and it appears he was right. His will was apparently filed in NC, but returned to Henrico County, VA, many years after his death. His wife, PATIENCE, has her own will filed in Henrico County in 1733. I would be happy to share what little I have about this very early Turner family - but I hope someone on the list could round out my information on Henry. Thanks to all - Jane ======================= Jane: Thanks for those extra words. Several folks have sumitted one word responses. That's all I neeed for the survey, but it sure is fun learning more about our cousins. Nyla ==================== Subj: Re: Survey - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-11-04 02:49:33 EST From: roothub@pacbell.net (Mary Dunklee) Hi Nyla, Thought I'd answer the survey. and have been doing genealogy on and off for the past 20 years or so. I have been involved in Scottish ethnic activities for about the same length of time and am the Membership Chairperson and Corresponding Secretary and the Webmaster of the House of Burnett, Inc. For those who are interested in their Burnett Scottish heritage (including tartans, etc), check out the House of Burnett's web site at http://home.pacbell.net/roothub/ I am descended from Jesse BURNETT, b. circa 1730 in VA.(a probable close relative of John of Aberdeenshire, but nothing proved yet). This newsletter is great Nyla...keep up the good work! Mary Dunklee House of Burnett ======================== Subj: Re: Survey - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-11-04 02:50:06 EST From: dnealrod@flash.net (Don or Nancy Cleere Rodgers) Hi Nyla & everybody, Want to get in on this survey before the gates close, seems to be females 3-1 & a very informative and sharing group. Status would have to be genealogist even though I've been at it for ten years. I guess I've learned a few things but always more to learn. Relatives are always asking when I will be finished. I tell them I'll NEVER be finished, genealogy is an on-going thing as you all know. Keep up the good work. Nancy Ft. Worth, TX http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/6448/ Researching Burnett, Christal, Cleere, Dowdy, Collier, Ingram, McClellan, McNeal, Neal, Parham, Thatcher, Teer. ===================== Subj: Lewis Burnett Date: 97-11-04 06:30:49 EST From: MKelley345 To: NCreed1 You already have my info (I'm the one looking for Lewis Burnett) I got most of my genealogical material from family members about 30 years ago. It sat in a corner for a number of years, now I'm trying to learn more. Sorry Lewis lineage didn't make it, here it is (I hope) Margaret DESCENDANTS OF LEWIS BURNETT 1 Lewis Burnett b: May 10, 1771 in Ga. d: 1818 in Adams Co. Ohio +Lucinda Miller b: October 10, 1773 in Va m: in Ohio d: January 18, 1846 in Highland Co. Ohio ........ 2 Joshua W. Burnett ............ +Sarah Anderson m: August 10, 1837 ........ 2 Edwards Burnett ............ +Mary Ann Head m: September 15, 1836 ........ 2 George William Burnett b: July 11, 1801 ............ +Rebecca Farrington m: December 28, 1837 ........ 2 Noah Burnett b: 1805 d: Bef. 1844 ............ +Martha Johnson m: October 25, 1835 ..................3 Lewis Burnett ........ 2 Clayburn Burnett b: September 26, 1811 ............ +Mary Ann Van Winckle m: October 25, 1835 ........ 2 Polly Myra Or Mary Burnett b: August 18, 1813 in Adams Co., Ohio d: May 28, 1881 in Iowa ............ +John Hixon m: July 30, 1829 ........ 2 Narcissa Barnett b: September 26, 1808 ............ +Eli Hoskins b: November 1802 m: October 14, 1824 d: February 27, 1843 ........ 2 Cynthia Ann Burnett b: May 30, 1802 d: 1895 ............ +Joseph Hoskins b: April 10, 1798 in New Garden MM, NC m: August 15, 1820 in Highland Co. Ohio d: Aft. 1850 ...................3 George Hoskins b: April 27, 1823 in Clinton Co., Ohio d: January 22, 1916 in Lewis Co., MO ....................+Lydia Bankson b: January 06, 1824 in Clinton Co., Ohio m: December 06, 1843 in Clinton Co., Ohio d: September 30, 1900 in Lewis Co., MO ..............................4 Etta Hoskins ............................. 4 Mary Emily Hoskins b: May 22, 1846 in Clinton Co., Ohio d: July 05, 1932 .................................+Elisha Powell m: March 09, 1865 ..............................4 Cynthia E. Hoskins b: 1848 in Clinton Co., Ohio ..............................4 Lena Hoskins b: 1849 in Clinton Co., Ohio ................................+William Fletcher b: 1842 in KY d: July 25, 1910 ..............................4 Janie Hoskins b: 1849 in Ohio .................................+J. Tom Brown b: 1847 in Missouri ..............................4 Laura Hoskins b: 1853 in Ohio ................................. +S. D. Blythe b: 1845 in Ohio ..............................4 Lewis Hoskins b: 1856 in Ohio d: February 1936 in Lewistown, Montana ................................ +Emma Jane Waterman b: September 24, 1860 in Lewis Co., MO m: 1880 d: February 1932 in MO. ..............................4 William Hoskins b: 1858 in Ohio ................................ +Elizabeth Vaughn b: May 13, 1863 ..............................4 Claiburn Burnett Hoskins b: April 04, 1860 in Clinton Co., Ohio d: February 05, 1939 in Lewis Co., MO ................................. +Nancy Ann Waterman b: August 27, 1862 in Lewis Co., MO m: March 09, 1879 in Lewis Co., MO d: May 16, 1933 in Lewis Co., MO ......................................... 5 Major Brown Hoskins b: April 15, 1904 in Marion Co., MO d: January 30, 1976 in Cody, Wyoming ............................................+Margaret Hubner b: January 12, 1915 in Ishoowa, Park Co. Wyo m: May 29, 1931 in Cody, Wyoming d: February 21, 1993 in Cody, Wyoming ========================= Subj: Jeremiah Burnett's Date: 97-11-04 06:59:19 EST From: madamx@trellis.net (Jeannie) I have four Jeremiah Burnett's in my database. I saw where someone thought their Jerry Burnett might be a Jeremiah Burnett. Perhaps these are ancestors or related in someway. Descendants of Jeremiah Burnett I 1 Jeremiah Burnett I b: 1718 Essex Co. VA d: Aft. October 22, 1772 .. +Mary McDaniel ......... 2 Jeremiah Burnett II b: 1740 d: Bef. July 1816 KY .................... 3 [1] Jeremiah Burnett III b: 1761 Albemarle Co. VA d: 1848 MO ........................ +Jane Turner .................... *2nd Wife of [1] Jeremiah Burnett III: ........................ +Mary Johnston .................... *3rd Wife of [1] Jeremiah Burnett III: ........................ +Effinah Unknown .................... *4th Wife of [1] Jeremiah Burnett III: ........................ +Martha "Patsy" Hughes ............................... 4 Peter Burnett b: Abt 1842 d: May 9, 1858 Patrick Co. VA ............................... 4 Nancy A. Burnett b: Abt 1840 d: August 12, 1858 Patrick Co. VA .................... 3 William Burnett, Sr. b: 1762 Albemarle Co. VA d: Aft. 1850 KY ........................ +Elizabeth Unknown ............................... 4 Lucy "Lucinda" Burnett b: 1783 Henry Co. VA d: Aft. 1850 KY ................................... +Elijah Rice "Eli" Hubbard ............................... 4 Mary Burnett b: 1789 Henry Co. VA ................................... +Noah Harbour, Jr. ............................... 4 Jeremiah "Sweeper" Burnett b: 1790 Henry Co. VA d: 1869 Patrick Co. VA ................................... +Sara Hale Campbell ............................... 4 Sarah Burnett b: 1792 Patrick Co. VA ................................... +John Turner ............................... 4 William Burnett, Jr. b: Abt 1793 Patrick Co. VA d: Bef. June 1850 Floyd Co. VA ................................... +Gartha Thompson ............................... 4 Elizabeth Burnett b: 1797 Patrick Co. VA d: October 3, 1882 ................................... +John Tuggle, Jr. ............................... 4 Archibald Burnett b: 1799 Patrick Co. VA ................................... +Lydia Ayres ............................... 4 John B. Burnett b: 1800 Patrick Co. VA d: 1887 KY ............................... 4 Hannah Burnett b: 1802 Patrick Co. VA d: Aft. 1850 ............................... 4 Adam Burnett b: 1804 Patrick Co. VA ............................... 4 Fleming S. Burnett b: 1806 Patrick Co. VA d: 1881 KY ................................... +Elizabeth Cox .................... 3 [2] Obediah Burnett b: 1764 Albemarle Co. VA d: 1838 Patrick Co. VA ........................ +Ruth Mayo .................... *2nd Wife of [2] Obediah Burnett: ........................ +Polly Terry .................... 3 [3] Isham R. Burnett b: 1766 Amherst Co. VA d: 1856 KY ........................ +Sara Mayo .................... *2nd Wife of [3] Isham R. Burnett: ........................ +Winifred F. Dodson .................... 3 Elizabeth Burnett b: 1768 Amherst Co. VA d: 1856 TN ........................ +Thomas Small .................... 3 Nancy Burnett b: 1770 Amherst Co. VA d: Aft. 1830 KY ........................ +John Davenport .................... 3 Moses Burnett b: 1771 VA ........................ +Elizabeth Melvin .................... 3 Frances "Fanny" Burnett b: 1772 Amherst Co. VA d: Aft. 1840 TN ........................ +Matthew Morrow .................... 3 Roland Burnett b: July 14, 1773 Amherst Co. VA d: March 4, 1858 MO ........................ +Mary Hurt b: 1781 Henry Co. VA d: November 3, 1851 .................... 3 Reuben Burnett b: 1774 Amherst Co. VA d: Aft. 1850 AK ........................ +Nancy Tuggle .................... 3 Mary Burnett b: 1776 Amherst Co. VA d: Bef. 1840 Patrick Co. VA ........................ +Richard Nowlin .................... 3 Matilda Burnett b: 1778-1779 Henry Co. VA d: Aft. 1852 KY ........................ +William Sloan .................... 3 Mildred Burnett b: 1780 Henry Co. VA d: 1867 KY ........................ +Joseph Hurt, Jr. b: 1775-1777 Henry Co. VA d: Aft. 1860 ............. +Rosa Unknown .................... 3 Isaac Burnett b: March 9, 1782 Henry Co. VA d: 1854 KY ........................ +Nancy Hurt b: December 12, 1793 SC .................... 3 Ursula Burnett b: 1789 Henry Co. VA d: Aft. 1870 KY ........................ +James Hurt b: 1789 Henry Co. VA d: Aft. 1870 .................... 3 Martha "Patsy" Burnett b: 1787-1790 Henry Co. VA d: Bef. 1850 TN ........................ +William Denney .................... 3 James Peter Burnett b: 1795 Patrick Co. VA d: 1873 MO ........................ +Malinda Maupin Hope this helps someone. ______________-____ Jeannie (aka Madam X) http://www.trellis.net/users/madamx ***The truth is out there...can you help me find it?*** Access my database of over 7000 names directly from my site or via Gendex. Researching the areas of Southern WV, most of VA, The Dutch Colonies in NY and NJ, and also some lines in PA, OH, and foreign countries. ==================== Subj: Re: Research Group Date: 97-11-04 07:54:54 EST From: madamx@trellis.net (Jeannie) Nyla, Thanks! I am researching Mercer, Monroe, Summers, and Greenbrier mainly. Some McDowell. Also Giles and Tazewell VA. And of course Patrick, and it has overflown into the surounding counties somewhat, with more of that to come for sure as my ancestors were born before Patrick formed in 1794. My direct lines in Patrick are Clark, Law, Wright, poss. Reynolds, Rakes, Winfree/Winfrey, Witcher, and maybe a couple of others I can't think of right at the moment. And others that I don't know the maiden names of the wives yet. However, I am researching many, many lines that are related in hopes of finding clues. I am turning into quite a Patrick expert and have many resources available here that I could share with the group if the lookups don't become overwhelming. I also have names in many, many VA counties, some direct line, some possibles, and some related lines. I pretty much gather any info I can find that can be tied into my database just because it seems a waste to me not to when I run across it and I feel that if I can't use the data myself, there will be someone else who will benefit from it, either now, or sometime in the future. BTW, what other counties besides Patrick are suitable for submission??? Thanks!!! Jeannie ===================== Subj: Via/Ingram Date: 97-11-04 19:54:20 EST From: ekirkman@swva.net (Eunice B. Kirkman) >In regards to your "Bits and Pieces" in Turner Compilation 242, are you >saying that Mary E. Ingram and Sarah Elizabeth Ingram are the same? I >have Sarah Elizabeth as: I don't know why I typed Sarah instead of Martha for Sarah's mother. >Sarah Elizabeth Ingram b 11 Apr 1787 PCVA d Apr 1842 PCVA Cem #441, dau >of James & Martha Ingram, m 30 May 1800 PCVA William M. Via b 13 Apr >1779 d 21 Feb 1839 Cem #441 & Ref #92. > >And, I see that the May 1800 marriage date belongs to William M. Via & >Sarah Elizabeth Ingram, not James and Martha "Patsy" Ingram. Ref #92 - >Marriages of Patrick Co. Va. 1790-1850, Lela C. Adams. > >Correct me if I am wrong. > Nettie@erols.com You are not wrong, I was. Tired? Getting old? Time to quit? I'm very sorry for the errors. Eunice B. Kirkman -------- ekirkman@swva.net -=| Virginia - The cradle of the nation |=- > ========================== Subj: Corrections to earlier errors. Date: 97-11-04 19:43:26 EST From: ekirkman@swva.net (Eunice B. Kirkman) 1. Alexander Ingram b. cir 1720, Botetourt Co., VA, m. cir 1755, in Botetourt Co., VA, Mary -----. Children: 2. i John Ingram b. cir 1756. 3. ii James Ingram. Second Generation 2. John Ingram b. cir 1756, Botetourt Co., VA, m. cir 1770, in Patrick Co., VA, Elizabeth Chiles. John died Dec 1813, Patrick Co., VA. Children: 4. i Nancy (Anne) Ingram b. ca 1775. 5. ii John Ingram, Jr. b. 1776. iii Frances Ingram b. 1778, Patrick Co., VA. iv Ruth Ingram b. cir 1778, Patrick Co., VA. 6. v Sarah Ingram b. cir 1780. vi James Ingram b. 1797, Patrick Co., VA, m. 27-Jun-1797, in Patrick Co., VA, Rozina Hall, b. 1777, (daughter of John Mason Hall and Sarah Clark). James died 1848, Patrick Co., VA. 3. James Ingram m. Martha "Patsy" ---. James died 1816. Children: 7. i Exoney Ingram b. 1776. 8. ii Alexander Ingram b. 9-Dec-1778. 9. iii Sarah Elizabeth Ingram b. Apr 1787.(Married William Via, 30May1800) Patrick County, VA. iv Mary Gracie Ingram m. William Handy, b. bef 1775, (son of John Handy and Elizabeth (?) Handy) d. bef 1840, Patrick Co., VA. William: Source: 1. HANDY FAMILY RESEARCH by Janice Kisler Smith. 2. RESEARCH by Nell Belton Patrick County marriage, birth, and death records. Lived in the Buffalo Ridge section of Patrick County. 10. v James Ingram, Jr. b. 27-Dec-1790. 11. vi Nancy Ingram b. 24-Jul-1798. 12. vii Mary "Polly" Ingram b. ca 1805. ======================= Subj: Fwd: John Coop Date: 97-11-04 17:53:23 EST From: DAllen5178 I help everyone that e-mails me. Is there anyone out there in Lee Co. Va. that could help my friend. Need information on Charles Ross b 17 Jan 1810, Patrick Co. Va farmer d. 22 Feb. 1886 m. 20Dec 1838, Louvenia Penn Foster, b.13 Jan. 1813 Patrick Co. Va. d. 15 April 1885 in Patrick Co. Va Children James Ross Charles Foster Rossb. Feb. 1843 d. 1922 m. Fannie Jane Janison Lucinda Ross William G. Ross M. Mahala Burnett Jun 22, 1822 Martha E. Ross George Ross John Abram Ross NEED DATES OF B. AND D. WHOM THEY MARRIED. ----------------- Forwarded Message: Subj: John Coop Date: 97-10-28 19:11:45 EST From: RONMANITOU To: DAllen5178 Hi, sorry to take so long, How are you doing? The more I look at William Kupe, the more it looks like you are right. The dates and locations are right, the names are right. I am trying to find people in Lee Co. Va, to verify John's records, I may have to drive up to look myself. Have you seen any other information on John Coop or on John E.?Talk to you soon. Ciao! Ron ====================== Folks: Anyone able to help with the Lee Co VA verification? Nyla ======================= Subj: Re: Survey - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-11-04 17:03:02 EST From: Char355 Nyla, Guess I was out of town when you started the survey. Here is my response. Keep up the good work!! char355@aol.com ====================== Subj: Re: Survey - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-11-04 16:46:49 EST From: CHRISTIEFC Hi Nyla ... my survey info: year old t, researching my mother's Turner line in GA, AL, and FL. My occupation was ,. So far, I have been able to trace my Turner line back to Zaph Turner who married in Barbour Co. AL in 1841. He appears to be from the Meshack/ Wilkes Co. bunch, but I have not been able to connect him yet. Thank you and David for the excellent work you are both doing. David's compilations have given me a good insight into the Meshack line; and of course he could not do his compilations without your work. Thanks to both of you and everyone else that contributes Turner information. James Palmer of Eufaula, AL ======================== Subj: Re: Comp 246 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-11-04 09:53:18 EST From: Yoricat@aol.com Nyla, I would appreciate any help from someone in Virginia on William Scott who in 1669 received indentured servant Richard Turner. Can someone give me some quick data. William Scott had many indentured servants. Richard Turner came from Bristol. Jeanette O'Boyle ======================== Folks: Anyone able to help Jeanett? Nyla ========================= Subj: Re: Survey - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-11-04 09:12:33 EST From: rangeley@caller.infi.net (rangeley) Hi Nyla, Sorry it took me so long to respond to survey. I'm 50-60, amateur genealogist but have been doing it for lots of years. I am an accountant, the mother of two sons and one daughter. Several years ago, I purchased Dr. James Turner's book, Cahill-Rangeley-Turner, for the information on my husband's Rangeley family. Imagine my surprise at finding my Shadrack Turner line in it as well! Many thanks for the EXCELLENT job you are doing. We are all very fortunate. A special thanks to David as well. I'm looking forward to the self-extracting zip files. I've never figured out how to zip, unzip, download the program to do so, etc. Lynda Rangeley ========================== The end of this compilation.