Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 21:54:42 EST From: NCreed1 To: NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp 245 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 2 Nov 1997 Greetings: The eMails are still coming. To date, 94 responses have been received. That represents 64 females and 30 males. So, 68% of those responding are females, while 32% are males. We have 51% of the mailing list subscribing? Will the remaining 49% please respond. All you need to send is the following: Gender: Male or Female Age Category: (under 30) (30-50) (50+) Occupation: Status: Amateur Genealogist, Professional Genealogist, or any other category that best describes you. Those are easy questions. Please take a couple of minutes and respond. Nyla CREED DePauk San Diego CA ===================== Subj: Re: TURNERs in Dekalb Co.,TN Date: 97-11-01 23:38:12 EST From: N4JED To: tturner@mail.state.tn.us Tony, The TURNER I listed in Dekalb Co. TN is not in my line of TURNERs but comes from the James TURNER line from Bedford Co., VA. Perhaps others can fill in more of his descendants as I have nothing beyond him and his wife. He is number 6 below. I have many TURNERs in my line listed in TN; but, of the ones I have a county for most are in Macon Co., Tn. Hope this is of some help. David Descendants of James Isiah TURNER , Capt.-1202 First Generation 1. James Isiah TURNER , Capt.-1202 was born about 1776 in Albemarle Co., VA. He died 1825 in Wilson Co., TN. James inherited land in Montgomery (later Floyd) County Virginia which he sold and moved to Tennessee in the earily 1800's. James married (1) Elizabeth HARRIS-6973, daughter of William HARRIS-16292 and Sara ___-16293 on 17 Jan 1796 in Patrick Co., VA. Elizabeth was born about 1780 in VA. She died 1796. They had the following children: + 2 F i. Sarah TURNER-1201. James also married (2) Ann REEVES-7873, daughter of George REEVES-7874 and Mary ___-7875 on 26 Dec 1796 in Patrick Co., VA. Ann was born about 1780 in VA. She died in TN. They had the following children: 3 F ii. Elizabeth TURNER-7878 was born about 1797 in VA. She died after 1870. Elizabeth married (1) Robert MCKEE-8491 on 24 Oct 1820 in Wilson Co., TN. 4 M iii. Jeremiah TURNER-7876 was born 1799 in VA. Jeremiah married (1) Nancy HANCOCK-8492 on 15 Feb 1820 in Wilson Co., TN. 5 F iv. Mary "Polly" TURNER-8493 was born about 1802 in VA. Mary married (1) Elijah PARSONS-8494 on 13 Apr 1816 in Wilson Co., TN. 6 M v. John TURNER-7877 was born 1803 in Patrick Co., VA. He died before 1857 in Dekalb Co., TN. John married (1) Katherine TURNEY-8495 about 1824. 7 F vi. Lucinda TURNER-7879 was born 1805 in VA. Lucinda married (1) George PHILLIPS-8497 on 21 Mar 1822 in Wilson Co., TN. 8 M vii. Francis TURNER-7880 was born 1804 in Patrick Co., VA. He died after 1870. Francis married (1) Elizabeth TURNER-8496 on 1821 in TN. 9 M viii. James TURNER-8498 was born 30 Jul 1808 in VA. He died 1 Jan 1889 in Wilson Co., TN. James married (1) Catherine ROBINSON-8499 about 1829 in Wilson Co., TN. 10 F ix. Anna TURNER-7881 was born 1811 in Patrick Co., VA. Anna married (1) Rowland BURKES-8500 about 1830 in Wilson Co., TN. 11 F x. Susannah TURNER-7882 was born 29 Dec 1816 in Wilson Co., TN. She died 25 Jun 1857 in Wilson Co., TN. Susannah married (1) William JONES-8501 on 23 Mar 1835 in Wilson Co., TN. ...END... ======================= Subj: Re: Lewis BURNETT Date: 97-11-02 00:13:16 EST From: N4JED To: MKelley345 CC: NCreed1 Margaret, Don't remember seeing your line before but I have one Lewis BURNETT listed in my data. Any chance he is your connection? By the way, have a group of KELLEYs in the Patrick - Henry database in the 1850's married to the TURNERs and the INGRAMs. Are these yours? David Descendants of Lewis BURNETT-6767 First Generation 1. Lewis BURNETT-6767. Lewis married (1) Susannah CANNADAY-6768. They had the following children: 2 F i. Delila A. BURNETT-6766 was born 1865 in Patrick Co., VA. Delila married (1) John Stephen TURNER -6756, son of Stephen Hubbard TURNER-947 and Malissa Ruth TURNER -946 on 13 Nov 1898 in Patrick Co., VA. John was born 1861 in Patrick Co., VA. ...END... ========================== I have a few more children listed as Descendants of Lewis Burnett. Nyla 1 Lewis Burnett b: Abt. 1810 in VA +Susannah Cannaday b: 1821 in Patrick Co VA m: 28 Sep 1839 in Patrick Co VA Father: William "Patrick Billy" Cannaday Mother: Martha "Patsy" Wright 2 Nancy J Burnett b: Abt. 1841 in Patrick Co VA +Steven Foley m: 03 Sep 1858 in Patrick Co VA 2 Jeremiah Burnett b: 24 Apr 1842 in Patrick Co VA d: 22 Sep 1927 2 James M Burnett b: Abt. 1844 in Patrick Co VA 2 John R Burnett b: 1846 2 Martha Burnett b: Abt. 1847 in Patrick Co VA 2 Samuel G Burnett b: Abt. 1850 in Patrick Co VA 2 Lucy E Burnett b: Abt. 1851 in Patrick Co VA 2 Steven Benjamin Burnett b: Abt. 1853 in Patrick Co VA 2 Sparrell G Burnett b: Abt. 1855 in Patrick Co VA 2 Florence Burnett b: 13 Dec 1857 in Patrick Co VA 2 Thomas B Burnett b: Abt. 1860 d: Bef. 1870 2 Virgil T Burnett b: 31 Oct 1862 +Mary E Via m: 31 Oct 1862 Father: R Via Mother: E Unknown 2 Delila A Burnett b: Abt. 1865 +John S Turner m: 13 Nov 1898 Father: Stephen Hubbard Turner Mother: Malissa Ruth "Mi Ruth" Turner ======================== Subj: Re: Hardin TURNER Date: 97-11-02 00:14:46 EST From: N4JED To: BLACK@globe.com CC: NCreed1 Terri, I have several Harden TURNERs and a lot of H. initials in my Turner listing. Can you please send a little more of the line so I can look for a tie? Thanks for humoring me as Nyla puts it. David =================== Subj: Re: Comp 237 - Survey Date: 97-11-02 09:11:50 EST From: bobdand@erols.com (Bob Dandridge) To: NCreed1@aol.com Nyla; Here are my stats: I've really appreciated David's help with my line in the past! Would love to hear from anyone else who might have information on Lucy A. Turner (b:1860 or 1864) dau. of William H. Turner (b:1825)and his wife Margaret Jane McGhee (b:abt1833); William's parents, Andrew H. Turner (b:1797) and Frances Holland. Thanks Nyla for all your work as well. Regards, Bob ==================== Bob: I found another daughter of William H and Margaret Jane McGhee named Betty born 1873 who married Wesley Belcher born 1873. That's the only child I had for William and Margaret. I also have Frances being the daughter of Martin McGhee. I found this note, but am not certain how it fits. John Holland m. Mary Smith 2 Jan 1797 Franklin Co VA. Have noted that John may be John Meador Holland. Sorry, I don't have more to share. Nyla ===================== Subj: Rev. James Turner, Presbyterian Minister Date: 97-11-02 03:44:02 EST From: VFTurner2 To: NCreed1 On 97-09-30, Eunice B. Kirkman referred to "Old James" Turner and his grandson, James, who was a famous Presbyterian minister. There is a great deal written about him in the book, "Leftwich-Turner Families and Their Connections" Rev. James Turner, the oldest son of Richard Turner and Nancy Johns, was born May 7, 1759. He married Sally Leftwich, daughter of Col. William Leftwich, Aug. 25, 1779. The death notice from Rev. James Turner's Bible states: "Died in his own house Tuesday evening, January 8, 1828, about 9 oclock, the Rev. James Turner in his 69th year, and for many years officiated with the Rev. James Mitchell as Pastor to the Peak's Congregation." A long biographical sketch, by Rev. William D. Foote, D.D., taken from "Sketches of Virginia, Historical and Biographical", which was published in 1885., is reprinted in the book. Children of James TURNER and Sally LEFTWICH are: 1. Mary TURNER, b: Aug 25, 1779; d. Jan 10, 1848; m: John HOPKINS, Sep 2, 1800. 2. Elizabeth TURNER, b. Jul 10,1781; d. Jul 11, 1810; m. Price HOPKINS, Oct 13, 1801. 3. Rev. William Leftwich TURNER, b. Fec 11, 1782; d. Oct 18, 1813; m. Nancy ALEXANDER. He was also a Presbyterian Minister. 4. Jesse TURNER, b. Jan 11, 1785; d. Jan 15, 1785 5. James TURNER, b. Jan 15, 1786; d. Sep, 1786 6. Jesse Hopkins TURNER, b. Jan 1, 1788; d. Mar 11, 1863 7. Nancy Johns TURNER, b. Nov 22, 1789; d. May 30, 1790 8. Nancy Johns TURNER, b. Jan. 8, 1792; d. Apr. 22, 1850; m. Rev. Robert HALL of Ohio 9. Dr. James Gardiner TURNER, b. Mar 8, 1794; d. Jan 14, 1869, m. Elizabeth P. KEY, Jun 18, 1825. He was practicing physician at Rocky Mount, Virginia before removing to Texas. 10. John Calvin TURNER, b. May 11, 1797; d. Oct 7, 1808 11. a son, name not known, b. Dec 10.1798; d. Dec 30, 1798 12. Melancthon TURNER, b. Dec 22, 1799; d. Aug 26, 1817 or 1819 13. Sally Leftwich TURNER, b. Dec 29, 1801, d. Mar. 22, 1828 14. Mildred Otey TURNER, b. Nov. 22, 1804; d. Jul 20, 1889; m. Thomas Lumpkin LEFTWICH, (a cousin) Dec 22. 1829. There were number of the descendents of Rev. James TURNER, who became Ministers in the Presbyterian Church. If anyone is interested in further reading about this family, the above named book is available on microfilm, and can be ordered through a local LDS FHC, among other places. I found it at the Sutro Library, a State of California facility in San Francisco. Vernon F. Turner (a descendent of "Old James", and also a Presbyterian) Menlo Park, CA ======================= Subj: Re: Rev. James Turner, Presbyterian Minister Date: 97-11-02 11:10:39 EST From: VFTurner2 The information I have is that Rev. William Henry Foote, published "Sketches of Virginia, Historical and Biographical" in 1885. There must have been a number of them, because the reference for the Rev. James Turner article is Chapter XIV, Second Series. In the post that propted me to write this piece, mentioned that one of the Gilley letters stated: "Foote in his 1854 volume, which I saw in the St.Louis City Library . . . " This would indicate to me that Foote was publishing something over at least a 30 year period. I don't know if had the same title. I don't know if this is a help, but that is all I know. Vern Turner ======================= Vern and David: Ask and you shall receive. Nyla ======================= Subj: Re: rewriting history Date: 97-11-02 14:24:54 EST From: N4JED Nyla, In post #233 you listed descendants of Edmond Lilly. Under the 4th generation you list Dora F. Lilly marrying George Kaskie Sweeney. If, in fact , he was born in July 1861, please correct his information to show him born in VIRGINIA as WV did not yet exist. David ======================== David. You catch that on me time after time. I know when West "By God" Virginia became a State - 20 June 1863. You just love it when I make that mistake. ========================= Subj: Re: How many John TURNERs to.... Date: 97-11-02 14:24:53 EST From: N4JED To: sky@gulf.net CC: NCreed1 Sharon and many others out there, I do not remember if I have seen your line on our group yet but could you send some of it soon? I have 56 John TURNERs in my own database and I am sure others have more. On another note, I have a bunch of YODER friends here in the Roanoke Valley. You got any relatives on that line here in VA? David ====================== Subj: Re: Family business Date: 97-11-02 14:24:51 EST From: N4JED CC: Sharaim As I read Sharon's comments on home made "whisky" it reminded me of attending the Allied Families gatherings with my grandmother in the 60's. She would sit there naming people going by and what they did ...several whom she called moonshiners (and they truely looked the role to a kid). Later on, as an architect I used to keep a glass bottle of the clear stuff at my drawing board. It was the best drawing pen cleaner I ever found. Even beats the modern ultrasonic cleaners. ...Got to make you wonder what that stuff does to people's insides if it eats dried ink that fast. David ===================== Subj: Humor David Date: 97-11-02 12:00:22 EST From: jerrylou@cyberhighway.net (Jerry Patterson) I have some people fooled; they think I'm a professional. Sorry, this is late. We just got back from the Celtic Highland Games in Tucson. I Represent the House of Burnett in Arizona. I have collected a lot of information on Burnetts from Census and Books. Right now I'm concentrating on my Mother's Family line. The more Genealogy you find the more names you find to research. I have numerous names. I have discovered a lot of my cousins by doing Genealogy. My Father was an only child. I had six siblings. My Sister that was two years younger then me passed away in 1991. Keep up the good work, Nyla. =========================== Jerry: You're not late at all. Tell us more about the Celtic Highland Games. This is all very new to me. Nyla ============================ Subj: Re: Comp #240 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-11-02 11:57:09 EST From: Flosnotes Sorry took so long to reply - due to work I am out of the area for periods of time. I am new to looking for ancestors. Number of lines. the one of interest to this group is that of TURNER. John Ray born 1859 in Springfield MO married a Euna HOWELL whose daughter married a GAIN and then we find the FRIZZELL family that is on my man's side my family names include: THOMPSON, HUNTINGTON, MUILENBURG. ======================== Subj: Poll Date: 97-11-02 18:02:01 EST From: ROMONA T Dear Nyla, Just got caught up on reading the comps, and wanted to submit info for the survey you and David are doing. I am years old, and a . I am who began my research almost 20 years ago, on my father's side of the family in Patrick County, VA, listening to my grandmother talk about the people and relatives in Patrick. I have made many trips to Patrick Co, and fell in love with the area and the people there!! Unfortunately, my husband and one daughter are not interested in genealogy, I "burned them out" going over "hill and dale" looking for old family cemeteries!! Thanks for all the work you are doing to help preserve the heritage of our families!! Romona Turner Hartley (you can print my name) Hurricane, WV ======================= Subj: William Green Turner-6715 Date: 97-11-02 17:39:14 EST From: ROMONA T Dear Nyla, I am not a subscriber, but I frequently "tune in" to review the compilations on the Turner/Ross/Via families. I truly appreciate all the information that is included in these comps, and the amount of work involved!! I am a Turner descendant of William Green Turner-6715(David's number) and his wife, Mary Jane Vaughan-6978. I hope someone can help me with the following question. According to Comp 202A-Revised, the parents of William Green Turner are listed as William Turner-912 and Elizabeth Philpott-927. I have been researching my Turner line for 19 Years now, and I have never been able to find documentation and/or proof of my William Green Turner's parents. I had been told that one source of documentation was a letter he wrote home to his mother during the Civil War. However, if Elizabeth Philpott died 11 Dec 1837, then William would not have been writing home to her!! Would you please post this inquiry? My Turner line has really "stumped" me!! Thank you in advance. Romona Turner Hartley ==================== Romona: Of course, I'll post your inquiry. Glad to see you got off the bleachers and joined us. Want to subscribe? Nyla ===================== Subj: Poll, Comments Date: 97-11-02 17:32:32 EST From: nettie@erols.com (Nettie S. Clifton) Dear Nyla, I enjoy the compilations very much. Sometimes I have difficulty keeping up with them. Like this time, I was away for 8 days and just got to read Comps 234 thru 241, all at once. Nice to read all of the comments of the other researchers. I work on Patrick Co VA families and some nearby counties. Most of my work is from printed works, and copies of public records some of which I make myself and some graciously sent by others. Always willing to share. Interested mainly in my husband's ancestors: Clifton, Martin, Rakes, Cockram, Boyd, Ingram, Hancock, Edwards, Vipperman, Williams, Turner, Wood Williams and many others. Am looking for my maternal ancestors of Henry Jefferson b c1808 and wife Minerva Ann b 1810. Lived and died in Alexandria VA. Many thanks to you and to all of the others who share such good information. Nettie Clifton Catonsville MD ===================== Subj: Humor Nyla & David!!! Date: 97-11-02 15:28:40 EST From: KYMartin@compuserve.com (Kathe Martin) Hi Nyla, Once again, thanks for all the work you put into this. Somehow I did not get several messages which included your survey request--compilations #35 and 36. I downloaded them from Chris's web page. I got into genealogy two years ago. My parents own a trailer on a gorgeous part of Smith Mountain Lake near Roanoke. Over Labor Day, 1995, we got stuck inside because it rained all weekend during our vacation there. My mother has been looking into the genealogy of our family since the early 80's, when she implored my help since I then lived on Capitol Hill in DC and could easily get to the archives. It just sounded all so boring! It wasn't until I had nothing else to do that I picked up her research to look through it. I couldn't put it down and have been actively at it since that time. My goal is to 1) find out where Shadrach came from and who his parents were and 2) to develop a database of all his descendents. My father grew up on a farm next to where we believe Shadrach lived. His cousins lived there and he often visited there as a child. It is bringing together my love of analysis, history and family. Look forward to hearing all the responses. Kathe Y. Martin =================== Kathe: Is that a new eMail address? I don't have you on our mailing list under that screen name. Nyla ==================== The end of this compilation.