Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:37:17 -0400 (EDT) From: NCreed1@aol.com To: NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp 203 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 14 Sep 1997 Greetings: Generation 5 of David's latest compilation follows. Nyla ======================= Here is Generation 5 of my TURNER listings. Once again, let me caution everyone that this is not the final answer by any means. Use this as a reference for your own research. This listing is filled with much that is correct, some that is partially correct, and some that is outright speculation. Most of the information here came from you the members of our list. I have worked to combine the different postings of everyone related to my lines and have used the resources available to me to fill some of the gaps. As a result, I have accumulated over 17,000 ancestors and their descendant lines into my computer. Many lines I go up and down to the point that the people listed are not related by any means. As a result though, if you see a marriage and are curious about the non-TURNER side, ask. Maybe I have additional or someone else in Nyla's group does. Please I would like any additions or corrections you may have. Births, deaths, locations, anything you care to share. Please post your corrections and questions to Nyla's list so everyone will be available to help and can correct their own information. Thanks everyone for sharing your information with our group. Your participation has made us one of the most successful internet groups out there. Have fun and enjoy this - the product of your labor and my two-finger typing. David Jones n4jed@aol.com .................................. Fifth Generation TURNER family 138. Larkin Cannady PACKWOOD-3533 was born 1803 in VA. Larkin married (1) Elizabeth STORMONT-3534. They had the following children: + 393 M i. William Henderson PACKWOOD-3535. 142. John Ira PACKWOOD-1851 was born 22 Feb 1804 in Patrick Co., VA. He died 18 Mar 1879 in Barry Co., MO. John and his wife Abigail went west with his brothers Elisha and William by wagon, first to Oregon Territory, then on to California Territory. They are found in the 1850 California census in El Dorado County, California living amongst miners. John married (1) Abigail TINDER- 1860 on 9 Feb 1832 in Jackson Co., IN. Abigail died 1852 in CA. Abigail died during childbirth. John and Abigail had the following children: + 394 F i. Malinda PACKWOOD-14565. John also married (2) Jane STAMPS-1861. 145. Elisha PACKWOOD-1854 was born 2 Jul 1805 in Patrick Co., VA. He died 1876 in Everett, WA. Elisha married (1) Paulina PROTHERO-1865 on 12 Feb 1832 in Jackson Co., IN. Paulina was born 1816 in KY. She died 1891 in CA. They had the following children: 395 M i. Samuel Tait PACKWOOD-3522 was born 1832. 396 F ii. Amanda PACKWOOD-3523 was born 1836. She died 1837. 397 M iii. John J. PACKWOOD-3524 was born 1838. He died 1841. 398 F iv. Chiletha PACKWOOD-3525 was born 1841. 399 M v. Elkanah PACKWOOD-3526 was born 1843. 400 F vi. Johannah PACKWOOD-3527 was born 1846. She died 1847. 401 M vii. Joseph C. PACKWOOD-3528 was born 12 Nov 1847. 402 M viii. Humboldt PACKWOOD-3529 was born 20 Aug 1850. 403 F ix. Augusta PACKWOOD-3530 was born 1853. 404 F x. Gertrude PACKWOOD-3531. 405 F xi. Augustine PACKWOOD-3532 was born about 1857 in CA. 149. William T. PACKWOOD-1858 was born 12 Feb 1813 in Patrick Co., VA. He died 13 Dec 1897 in Mima Prarie, WA. William went west in 1845 with his brothers by wagon first to Oregon Territory, then to California Territory. William married (1) Rhoda Belle PROTHERO-1866 on 27 Mar 1834 in Jefferson Co., IN. Rhoda was born 1818. She died 1894. They had the following children: 406 F i. Samantha PACKWOOD-1867. Samantha married (1) ___ CROLL-1868. + 407 F ii. Esther PACKWOOD-3542. William also married (2) Elmira COOPER-1339 on 19 Dec 1883 in San Luis Obispo, CA. 150. Polly BARTLETT-1322. Polly married (1) William APPLEBY-1323. They had the following children: 408 M i. Pollard Turner APPLEBY-16513. 154. Nancy B. TURNER-853 was born about 1807 in Henry Co., VA. Nancy married (1) William THOMASSON-855 on 26 Nov 1838 in Henry Co., VA. William was born in VA. They had the following children: + 409 M i. Wilson Owen THOMASSON-858. 410 F ii. Martha THOMASSON-859. Martha married (1) Benjamin STRULTZ-1229. 411 F iii. Nancy THOMASSON-860. Nancy married (1) Joseph HARDY-1230. 412 M iv. Alked THOMASSON-861. Alked married (1) Elizabeth BROWN-1231. 413 F v. Elvira THOMASSON-862. 414 F vi. Emma THOMASSON-1232. Emma married (1) Joseph NUNN-1234. 415 M vii. ___ THOMASSON-1233. 157. Elizabeth TURNER-481 was born 22 Dec 1813 in Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. She died 5 Dec 1900 in Patrick Co., VA and was buried in Shadrach Turner Cemetery, Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. Elizabeth married (1) David Jefferson ROSS-478, son of David ROSS-439 and Sarah "Sally" ANDERSON-427 on 14 Feb 1833 in Patrick Co., VA. David was born 12 Apr 1806 in Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. He died 9 Jul 1853 in Patrick Co., VA. David was a blacksmith. avid and Elizabeth had the following children: 416 M i. Charles Peyton ROSS-798 was born Dec 1833 in Patrick Co., VA. Charles is listed as C.P. Ross, Private in Company C, 51st. Virginia Infantry Regiment, CSA during the War for Southern Independence. He enlisted 6/14/1861 in Patrick County, Virginia. He received a medical discharge 5/9/1862 for disability from measles and fever. Charles was listed in military records as born Patrick County, Virginia, age 30, dark complexion, dark eyes, black hair; occupation farmer. Charles married (1) Dicea "Dicy" CORN-794, daughter of Jesse CORN Jr-362 and Elizabeth BURNETT-361. + 417 M ii. Lewis T. ROSS-6728 was born 1835. 418 M iii. John T. ROSS-6729 was born about 1839 in Patrick Co., VA. John enlisted 5/1/1862 at Elamsville, Virginia as a Corporal in Company D, 51st Virginia Infantry, CSA during the War for Southern Independence. He was detailed as a shoemaker and sent to Salem, Virginia 11/10/1862. Taken prisoner Roanoke County, Virginia 12/19/1863. Sent to Atheneum Prison, Wheeling, then to Camp Chase 1/1/1864, on to Ft. Delaware 3/17/1864 where he was released 6/15/1865. John was listed in military records as light complexion, dark hair, dark eyes, 6'-0", age 25; occupation shoemaker. 419 F iv. Judy Amanda ROSS-6730 was born 15 Aug 1842 in Patrick Co., VA. She died 15 May 1906 and was buried in David Ross Cem., Patrick Co., VA. 420 M v. David C. ROSS-6731 was born about 1844 in Patrick Co., VA. He died 24 Mar 1858 in Patrick Co., VA and was buried in Shadrach Turner Cem., Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. 421 F vi. Sarah Ann ROSS-6732 was born about 1845 in Patrick Co., VA. Sarah married (1) John R. NOLEN-6739, son of Alexander NOLEN-479 and Mary Ann TURNER-482 on 20 Jan 1870 in Patrick Co., VA. John was born 19 Jul 1847 in Franklin Co., VA. 422 M vii. William D. ROSS-6733 was born 1847 in Patrick Co., VA. William married (1) Mary L. VIA-6740, daughter of Fleming "Flemon" VIA-787 and Mary "Polly" CORN-786 on 22 Jan 1873 in Patrick Co., VA. Mary was born 1854 in Patrick Co., VA. + 423 F viii. Elizabeth A. "Bettie" ROSS-6734 was born 19 Dec 1848/1849 and died 13 Jun 1932. + 424 M ix. Elmer Ampoda ROSS-352 was born 13 Jan 1850 and died 30 Jul 1923. 425 M x. Joseph J. ROSS-6735 was born 25 Apr 1853 in Patrick Co., VA. 158. Mary Ann TURNER-482 was born 1814 in Patrick Co., VA. She died after 1860 in Franklin Co., VA. Mary married (1) Alexander NOLEN-479, son of John NOWLIN-1669 and Mary "Polly" THOMAS-1670 on 6 Aug 1832. Alexander was born about 1810 in VA. ast name spelling of NOWLIN also found. lexander and Mary had the following children: + 426 M i. Charles N. NOLEN-6744 was born 14 Jan 1833 and died 1899. 427 M ii. John R. NOLEN-6739 was born 19 Jul 1847 in Franklin Co., VA. John married (1) Sarah Ann ROSS-6732, daughter of David Jefferson ROSS-478 and Elizabeth TURNER-481 on 20 Jan 1870 in Patrick Co., VA. Sarah was born about 1845 in Patrick Co.,VA. 159. Amanda Burnett TURNER-863 was born 17 Mar 1819 in Patrick Co., VA. She died 16 Oct 1899 in Monroe Co., KY. The following letter from Amanda Burnettt Turner to her parents Shadrack and Judith Burnett Turner is typed with the same spelling as the original hand written letter. The spacing is off as I have condenced the lines to fit this internet format. Monroe County Ky August the 11th 1856 Dear Father and Mother Sisters and Brother I take my pen in hand to write you a few line to let you know that we are in common health at this time hoping thes lines may find you all enjoying the same blefsing I have nothing of much importance to write it is very healthy here so far, we have had a very dry hot summer here corn crops is sorryier than ever was known here there will be no tobacco raised if it dont rain shortly we will almost loose seed of all kinds of vegitables I have not has a mefs of corn field beens this summer The ground has not binto wet to plow since may and verry few showers since, there was good crops of oats and wheat made here, so there will be no danger of people suffering though I fear stock will suffer We have raised 50 bushels of wheat this summer and Carter 25, Joseph raised none though it wont take much to do them for Rachael can make a little do She can cook as good as aunt Nancy Turner Jo is doing well he has two likely mares and a mule colt a good stock of hogs and cattle Carter will have a bad chance this year he is gettin along prety well a fixing abut his house he has made him a loomand two new (page two) bed steads a set of chairs and a wheel Robert has twenty two acres in corn If it had bin seasonable he would of raised 210 barrels he thinks he wont raise more than fifty we have some old corn we have 40 hogs to fatten and as many to winter we have five head of horses and five mule colts a good stock of cattle and sheep, we can rub through by buying some corn with our oats Our children go to school Jo J is steadying the arithmetic Cafs learns very fast Sam runs away and goes every day the school house is not more than two hundred yds of Permelias two oldest children goes, I have not heard from any of you this summer we are getting uneasy Permelia and myself has both wrote and have received no answers, I want you to write as soon as you get this letter write how you are doing tell sister Betsy I want her to write and let me know how she is doing I oftenen think her and the children and want to see them I want to see you all once more I think we will come next summer if we all live, Bennett Stone and his wife come up to see us last week and said uncle A Wm and all the ballance was well uncle Benjamin was not very well when we heard from thare and marinda morris was verry low withe dropsy, If you and motherwould come and see us it would be more satisfaction to me than any else on earth I want Sam and Tiny to come (page three) and see us this fall if they can Albina is grown and can do any kind of businefs She is weaving coverlids now, I believe I wrote everthing I can think of tell Lewis Turner that Susan Carter is very low with her breast, Robert and the children joins in sending our love to all our connections and friends, I remain your affectional daughter until death Amanda B Rofs Shadrack Turner Judith Turner (attached to bottom of letter) Samuel and Clemantine August the 12th We had a fine shower of rain this morning tobacco is not so far spent to make pretty good crops yet we have 10 thousand plants growing and Jo and carter 8 thousan each Jo and Carter will both make plenty of coin to do them I weigh 150 Robert 147 Albina 121 Jo 89 I forgot what Cafs and Sam weighs, Jo and Rachael both look verry healthy Carters family looks as well as they did when they left thare I believe I will quit A B Rofs Amanda married (1) Robert Anderson ROSS-864, son of David ROSS-439 and Sarah "Sally" ANDERSON-427 on 28 May 1837 in Patrick Co., VA. Robert was born 29 Nov 1808 in Patrick Co., VA. He died 23 Apr 1875 in Monroe Co., KY. They had the following children: 428 F i. Mary ROSS-865 was born about 1842 in KY. + 429 M ii. Joseph Jefferson "Joe J" ROSS-866 was born 2 Feb 1846 and died before 1900. 430 M iii. James B. "Buck" ROSS-867 was born about 1848 in Monroe Co., KY. + 431 M iv. Lewis Cass ROSS-868 was born 1 Mar 1851. + 432 M v. Samuel Houston ROSS-869 was born 19 Nov 1852 and died 3 Sep 1913. 433 F vi. Sarah E. ROSS-871 was born 17 Apr 1855. 160. Mahala A. TURNER-872 was born 2 Jan 1821 in Patrick Co., VA. She died 28 Jan 1859 and was buried in Shadrach Turner Cemetery, Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. Mahala married (1) Peyton Rufus ROSS-873, son of David ROSS-439 and Sarah "Sally" ANDERSON-427 on 12 Oct 1843 in Patrick Co., VA. Peyton was born 30 Nov 1813 in Patrick Co., VA. He died 15 Aug 1885 in VA. They had the following children: + 434 F i. Ruth Permelia ROSS-1423 was born Feb 1846. 435 F ii. Nancy J. "Pencie" ROSS-4464 was born about 1849 in Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. Nancy married (1) Charles PRESTON-4468. Nancy also married (2) Green MCGHEE-4474. 436 F iii. Louisa Annie ROSS-4465 was born about 1851 in Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. Louisa married (1) Washington WRIGHT-4475 in VA. 437 F iv. Augusta R. ROSS-4466 was born about 1853 in Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. Augusta married (1) Joseph Peter NOWLIN-4476. 438 F v. Mahala Delancy ROSS-4463 was born about 1856 in Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. Mahala married (1) Green MCGHEE-4474. 439 M vi. Joseph G. ROSS-4467 was born in Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. 163. Permelia Corn TURNER-877 was born 1825 in Patrick Co., VA. She died after 1870 in Monroe Co., KY. The following letter from Permelia Corn Turner and John Hampton Hin to Permelia's brother Samuel C. Turner is typed directly from the hand written original. I have attempted to keep the same spelling and format as appears on the original letter. The letter is on a 12 inch by 15 inch piece of paper that was folded to mail size, sealed with a red wax and addressed as follows... Mr Samuel C. Turner Elamsville Patrick Co. Virginia (across the top of the address face in another handwriting it says) Centre point Ky paid 3 (page one) Monroe Cty Kentucky Dec 30 1855 Dear Sam and Tiny I will write you as few lines to let you now something of Kentucky you have both perused shooting creek and this is as fair a sample as I can come at though not quite as god a looking a place as that on the account of dry creeks choise mills and people in general the ladys hear all wear yarn dresses striped in the filfen shorter than any little children ther and no pa___ lets square handkerchiefs round the neck with the dirtest bon nets i ever seen on all the tim white yarn stockings well soled and coars peged shoes no maner of politeness about them I have been trying ever since I came hear to get one to sit down longenoughto set up to her though have give it up as a bad jod as tha apear so wild and savage I have travel ed over seven countys in the State but I dont think she hear So far as the geantlemen is concerned if I must call them geantlemen drinking and gambling (second page) is there ocupation Sam mee and Jo is just in one noch waying 100 and 90 and Joes wife is a small woman waying 100 and 66 lbs tell Margaret Ferguson i have been to Sanfords and found them all well and doing well a pearenty Say to mr IS_dams I received his leter on the 25 and was glad to hear they was all well I will write to him soon Sam you must write to mee and give the news generally as ther is nothing hear to write about be shore to write whether Mat Roberson is dead or not and how you come on at wits spur since you got your dith coat Tiny tell mee who is your bea since the old wons is all dead give my respects to unkle Shady and Aunt Judy and Dicy Corn tell her to write to mee and give me the news from goblintown give my respects to Haty Ann and the widow allso I must come to a close by saying farewell John H. Hin (page three) Sam I will write you and Tiny a few lines as Hampton cant fill up a sheet I promist to write what sort of a look ing woman joes wifw was she is fair skined blue eyed light hair white eye brows rezembly lithe helton moor than any body els I ever saw though very kind and friendly I like her tolerable well for the acquaintence She had a good bed frog bedstead and a few bed quilts is all I now of in the way of beding 4 chairs a pair of fire dogs and aunt rachels saddle is all she had that I know of tha hav two beds a good table and a box for a cubboard a house a bout the sise of the lewry nailed boards plank lath and dirt chimney a nother little house for a kitchen and smokehouse we want you to write whether Mr and old Betsy is maried or not I will deseribe Bobs folks in the next letter as I hav no rom this time Mary is to be maried wednes day to Eaf willia ms She will marry at old Smiths makes no weding pleas if you rite any thing you dont wish all to no put it in hamps letter I must come to a close by saying fare well Sam and Tiny Permelia Carter This letter From Permelia Corn Turner to her parents Shadrack and Judith Burnett Turner is typed directly from the handwritten original with the style and spelling as in the original... Monroe Cty Kentucky June the 28 1856 Dear Father Mother Brothers and Sisters I will now in form you we are all well and have enjoyed as good health hear as we did there Amanda is complaining som Jos and Rachel is well Jo received your letter I received Tinys and would of answerd it long a go though had nothing to write worth sending and if I wait for something you wont hear from mee so you shall hear from mee if it is only to say howdy we had a cool spring at this time the wether is warm and very dry weve made 25 bushels of good wheat and have a very good crop of oats corn and 4 thousand plants of to bacco planted we are not quite half done planting if it rains by the middle of July I have a promising flax and cotton patch a good many vegetables though they ar sorry on the account of the drouth we have a very pretty young orchard coming on and some froot on them and some peaches our gray filly provd to be a splendid nag we keep her yet we bought a cow and yearlin calf this spring for 15$ the foxes have deprived mee of many cicanes I have 4 goslins I have white washed my house and got a high post bedstid and a cup board my house looks quite (page two) grand for kentucky the water geting very sorry generally though our spring never fails and is as good water as i ever drank Jo sais tell you all he has forgot how to write you must excuse him for not writing Mr Hin is hear and well he has had some work to do thoug finds it scearce J has not desided whet her he will come to Va this fall or not if he does it will be lat he wants you all to write to him and give him the news ginerally Tiny you accused us of making fun of your letter not so it just such as I want to hear all of you pleas write to mee often I would be glad to hear every weak the children has growed so you would hardle no them Merit can walk good I recon I would way a hundred lbs I must come to a close for the want fo something to write Permelia Carter Permelia married (1) George Lewis CARTER-878 on 9 May 1848. They had the following children: 440 M i. Merit CARTER-1435. 164. Martha Jane TURNER-879 was born 16 Apr 1829 in Patrick Co., VA. She died 25 Dec 1915 in Patrick Co., VA and was buried in Jeremiah Turner Cemetery, Patrick Co., VA. Martha married (1) Jeremiah TURNER-880, son of Lewis TURNER-881 and Cynthia Ann FOSTER-882 on 2 Nov 1854 in Patrick Co., VA. Jeremiah was born 29 Nov 1826 in Patrick Co., VA. He died 28 Jun 1896 in Patrick Co., VA. The 1850 U.S. Census found 24 year old Jeremiah living at home with his parents. Jeremiah and Martha had the following children: 441 M i. Shadrack Lewis TURNER-883 was born 19 Jan 1857 in Patrick Co., VA. He died 7 Jan 1942 in Patrick Co., VA and was buried in Jeremiah Turner Cemetery, Patrick Co., VA. Shadrack married (1) Susan Pattie ROSS-934, daughter of Peyton Rufus ROSS-873 and Judith V. "Judy" CORN- 4469 on 25 Dec 1890 in Patrick Co., VA. Susan was born 1871 in Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. She died 12 Aug 1893 in Patrick Co., VA. Shadrack also married (2) Nancy Lou NOLEN-935, daughter of Isaac Alexander NOLEN-6745 and Judith Ann Elizabeth TURNER-6746 about 1900. Nancy was born 2 Aug 1883 in VA. She died 4 Oct 1964. + 442 M ii. Thomas Jefferson TURNER-936 was born 8 Jan 1859 and died 23 Jan 1950. 443 F iii. Mahala Ann TURNER-938 was born 10 Jan 1861 in Patrick Co., VA. She died 18 Feb 1897 in Patrick Co., VA. Mahala married (1) J. H. TURNER-939 on 3 Dec 1884 in Patrick Co., VA. + 444 M iv. Alvah Jeremiah TURNER-808 was born 17 Feb 1863 and died 14 Dec 1914. + 445 M v. John Bishop TURNER-807 was born 10 Oct 1866 and died 13 Jul 1946. 446 F vi. Cynthia R. TURNER-6750 was born 11 Apr 1869 in Patrick Co., VA. She died 18 Jan 1871 and was buried in Shadrach Turner Cemetery, Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. 447 F vii. Juda Jane "Jennie" TURNER-942 was born 30 Jun 1871 in Patrick Co., VA. She died 21 Apr 1964 in Roanoke, Roanoke Co., VA and was buried in Evergreen Cem., Roanoke, VA. Juda Jane was the name listed in Patrick County, Virginia birth records and Jennie Jane was listed in the 1850 U.S. Census by the census taker - her eldest brother Shadrack. Juda married (1) James Benjamin ROBERSON-943, son of Benjamin S. ROBERSON-6751 and Sarah Elizabeth VIA-6752 on 7 Feb 1894 in Patrick Co., VA. James was born 1870 in Patrick Co., VA. 448 F viii. Bettie Exonie TURNER-944 was born 14 Aug 1876 in Patrick Co., VA. She died 23 Mar 1960 in Patrick Co., VA and was buried in Jeremiah Turner Cemetery, Patrick County, VA. Bettie married (1) Isaac Edward "Ed" NOLEN-945, son of Isaac Alexander NOLEN-6745 and Judith Ann Elizabeth TURNER-6746 on 2 Apr 1903 in Patrick Co., VA. Isaac was born 10 Feb 1877 in Patrick Co., VA. He died 10 Jun 1936. 165. Malissa Ruth TURNER-946 was born 2 May 1831 in Patrick Co., VA. She died 9 Feb 1904 in Patrick Co., VA and was buried in Lackey - Turner, Cemetery, Patrick Co., VA. Malissa married (1) Stephen Hubbard TURNER-947, son of John TURNER , Rev.-774 and Nancy BURNETT-921 on 30 Dec 1851 in Patrick Co., VA. Stephen was born 8 Dec 1826 in Henry Co., VA. He died 23 Oct 1905. They had the following children: 449 F i. Sandra Elizabeth TURNER-6747 was born 1853 in Patrick Co., VA. Sandra married (1) Andrew J. GRAHAM- 6757, son of Alexander GRAHAM-6758 and Lucinda HALL-6759 on 8 Feb 1870 in Patrick Co., VA. Andrew was born about 1842 in Patrick Co., VA. 450 M ii. Charles A. TURNER-6753 was born 1856 in Patrick Co., VA. He died 14 Apr 1859 in Patrick Co., VA. 451 F iii. Elzaphen S. TURNER-6754 was born Feb 1859 in Patrick Co., VA. She died 2 Apr 1865 and was buried in Lackey - Turner Cemetery, Patrick Co., VA. 452 M iv. Josiah TURNER-6755 was born 1859 in Patrick Co., VA. Josiah married (1) Martha V. HAGWOOD-6760, daughter of William R. HAGWOOD-6865 and Ruth HELMS-6864 on 13 Nov 1884 in Patrick Co., VA. Martha was born 1857 in Patrick Co., VA. 453 M v. John Stephen TURNER-6756 was born 1861 in Patrick Co., VA. John married (1) Nancy A. HOOKER-6763, daughter of John W. HOOKER-13912 and Margaret Derenza AKERS-13909 on 7 Oct 1880 in Patrick Co., VA. The marriage ended in divorce. Nancy was born 1863 in Patrick Co., VA. John also married (2) Delila A. BURNETT-6766, daughter of Lewis BURNETT-6767 and Susannah CANNADAY-6768 on 13 Nov 1898 in Patrick Co., VA. Delila was born 1865 in Patrick Co., VA.