Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 18:33:59 -0400 (EDT) From: NCreed1@aol.com To: IRXP500@indyvax.iupui.edu, NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp 192 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 7 Sep 1997 Greetings to All, More eMails: Nyla CREED DePauk San Diego CA ======================= Subj: Re:VIA refresher Date: 97-09-03 09:46:18 EDT From: DiamondEnt Nyla, Here is the line I am looking for again: Leslie Guy VIA b. Sept 30, 1874 in Hickman Co., KY married Rose MORGAN (her family: HANELINE, BENNETT, GUILL) Leslie's father was James S. VIA b. July 11, 1845 in Ky he married Mary E. MYERS. James was the son of Overton Via b. abt 1806 in Va. and Martha TARVER b. abt1808 in Tn. (Rachael MURPHY b. 1816 is also in the cemetary, stone says "mother"). Would like to cortespond with anyone on these lines. Kathy ======================== Folks: Can you please check your VIA information and see if you have an Overton VIA born abt 1806 in VA? Thanks. Nyla ========================= Subj: Re: Comp 191, 192, 193, etc. Date: 97-09-03 18:43:25 EDT From: RootsRMe Nyla, here is Belinda's family as I now have it. I have been working overtime for the last weekend typing in all the new material you had in Compilations 186, 187, 188, and 189. Those compilations gave the first four generations of the children of John Turner (Shadrack and Meschack's father). I would love to have the information that follows so I can include it in Belinda's and Jon's genealogy. It ends with 129 - Manual Turner. Would love to have continuation of family. Hope you enjoy our line. Danny. ==================== Subj: Re: Comp 191, 192, 193, etc. Date: 09/03/97 To: RootsRMe Danny: Just downloaded your file. Will take a look at it in a second or two. Let me suggest that you write to David Jones (N4JED@aol.com) re more on John Turner's descendants. I suspect he would be willing to share more, if he has it. If you haven't done so already, please check out all our compilations on Chris Gaunt's home page. There is a search capability which should indicate which compilations might have more info on the lines that interest you. All the files can be downloaded and you can read/study them at your convenience. Thanks to Kevin, the files have been zipped; yet they are quite large. I have been spending most of my time just cutting and pasting the compilations. I believe David has been updating his database from the time we started this project back 1 1/2 yrs ago. I know some folks send him the info directly, and periodically he sends several generations for me to use in our compilations. Isn't this group amazing in how willing they are to share their information? Nyla http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt ===================== Subj: Comp 191, 192, 193, etc. Date: 97-09-03 00:33:06 EDT From: RootsRMe To: NCreed1 Nyla, I have been fascinated by the Compilations of the Turner family history. Is there any way you can send more genealogy than just the first 4 generations. My wife Belinda descends from Shadrack Turner. We are really fascinated with all of the information you have gathered. How long have you been working on your Turner line? Must have been a long time. Thank you for making available what you have already. Do you have a website? Danny A. McBee. ========================= Subj: Re: Comp 191, 192, 193, etc. Date: 97-09-03 21:35:51 EDT From: RootsRMe To: NCreed1 Nyla, it sure is. I haven't sent David my info yet as I have corresponded exclusively with you. Please feel free to share my info with David. He should be commended on his work. He has certainly documented the history of the Virginia Turner family. Thanks again for all of your help also. Danny. ================= Subj: Bible of Lucinda Nolen Brammer Date: 97-09-05 13:41:41 EDT From: anhughes@palmnet.net (Ann N. Hughes) To: NCreed1@aol.com The research was done and Bible pages were copied by Janice Nolen; transcription and posting by Ann Nolen Hughes. These are the surnames which you will find recorded in the Brammer Bible: Nolen, Roberson, Pendleton, Rakes, Burnett, Hooker, Taylor, Brammer. Hope this helps someone. My gggrandfather was Charles P. Nolen. From Bible of Lucinda Nolen Brammer (Mrs R. R.) Births Nancy D. Nolen was born February the 4th 1878 Martha E. Nolen was born December the 18th 1879 Charles W. Nolen was born April the 12th 1882 John T. Nolen was born June the 18th 1884 Exonia Alice Nolen was born September the 14th 1886 Emma Josephine Nolen was born November the 9th 1889 Lucinda A. Nolen was born January the 5th 1896 Next Page, Births Continued Charles P. Nolen was born March the 16th 1806 Nancy Adams Nolen was born November the 12th 1819 Mary E. Nolen was born July the 16th 1836 Exoney D. Nolen was born October the 7th 1835 Isaac A. Nolen was born Sept the 11th 1840 Ephram S. Nolen was born Feby the 5th 1843 Martha V. Nolen was born March the 6th 1845 John A. Nolen was born August the 1st 1848 Charles P. Nolen, Jr. was born October the 26th 1849 George S. Nolen was born February the 10th 1853 Nancy A. Nolen was born April the 17th 1855 Ruth L. Nolen was born June the 7th 1857 Enoch G. Nolen was born October the 15th 1860 Charles M. Burnett was born October the 30th 1855 John E. Burnett was born February the 11th 1857 Deaths (Separate Page) Onie Nolen Roberson died June 6, 1922 Emma J. Nolen Pendleton died May 25, 1926 Nancy D. Nolen Rakes died August 21, 1932 Geo. S. Nolen died Dec 6. 1932 John Taswell Nolen died Jan 13, 1939 Ruth J. Nolen died Oct 31, 1944 Charles W. Nolen died Sept 4, 1967 12:30 pm Martha Ellen Nolen died Jan 1, 68 9:10 pm Marriages (Separate Page) George S. Nolen and Ruth J. Hooker was married March the 8th 1877 Nancy D. Nolen and Geo. Claiborn Rakes were married June 8, 1893 Charles W. Nolen and Lily Edna Taylor were married June 24, 1908 Emma J. Nolen and Geo. Lee Pendleton were married Dec. 20 1911 Onie A. Nolen and James Lester Roberson were married Jan. 20, 1915 John T. Nolen and Frances Ella Schower were married June 4, 1919 Lucinda A. Nolen and Robert Lee Brammer were married October 17, 1923 Marriages listed on a separate lined page were "Abstracted from the Old Family Bible of C. P. Nolen Decd. by John T. Agee" Mary E. Nolen was Married May the 5th 1853 Exoney D. Nolen was Married June the 1st 1854 Martha V. Nolen was married October the 5th 1865 John A. Nolen was Married February the 2nd 1871 Isaac A. Nolen was Married Sept the 5th 1872 Nancy A. Nolen was Married February 20th 1873 Charles P. Nolen, Jr. was Married March the 27th 1873 Ruth L. Nolen was Married Sept the 10th 1874 George S. Nolen Was Married March the 8th 1877 Charles P. Nolen Died Jany 26th 1875 Nancy Nolen Died May the 6th 1877 Ephram S. Nolen Son of the above Died the 3rd March 1862 Enoch G. Nolen Son of the Same Died 27th December 1861 John E. Burnett Son of E. D. Burnett Died Sept the 13th 1857 Isaac A. Burnett Son of the above Died November 23rd 1861 ================= Subj: Burnett Plantation Date: 97-09-05 12:43:23 EDT From: JohneP4596@aol.com Hi Nyla - Last night I sent a message with two questions. The last question asked if anybody knew who was buried in the old Burnett cemetery. Well, less than an hour after I sent that, I found the answer. So, if it hasn't already been sent off to be compiled, please erase that last part of my message. Thanks - John ======================== John -- How about sharing the infor with the group, if you don't mind. Nyla ===================== Subj: Re: Burnett Plantation Date: 97-09-05 17:42:05 EDT From: JohneP4596@aol.com Hi Nyla - It was in Comp 151, of July 15. A rather lengthy message from VALDALYA, that had one of the most complete run-downs on the Burnett, all in one message. John ========================= Subj: Roberson H. Turner Date: 97-09-05 17:07:47 EDT From: Gangeto5@aol.com Thank you for this website. My mother has been searching for months to find the parents of Roberson H. Turner. Compilation #105 - 346, shows information that can be added to. I would like to do this. According to Tombstone located in Harris Chapel Cemetary, Cass Co. TX, R.H. Turner was born Nov. 1, 1808, died June 4, 1868. Married Frances Walton Banks in Jasper Co. Ga. Frances W. Banks was born May 10, 1818, died Mar 18, 1871. This information was obtained by myself on a visit to the gravesite and through 1850 Ga. census Jasper Co. Dist.4 -4/Nov/50, also 1880 Morris Co, Tx. census, Marriage records Cass Co.TX 1847- 1880, and probate minutes book C - Cass Co. Tx. Some information came from a letter written by the son of Pleasant Ashbury dated Dec. 7, 1963, written to Lena Alford Thigpen, daughter of Robert Hughes Alford and Alice Rose Turner (Gussie). RH Turner was a Trustee at Walkers Academy in Dec. 1854 near Bethel Community in the Liberty area in Ga. Children: John W. Turner b Abt 1836 in Ga. Mabel Turner b Abt 1838 in Ga. Amanda Turner b Abt 1840 in Ga. Married P.Boyd (school teacher) Amanda is buried in Naples, Cass Co. Tx Richard C. Turner b Abt 1842 in Ga. James Monroe Turner b Sept 14, 1845 in Ga. died Feb. 8, 1902 in Dangerfield, Tx. Buried in Harris Chapel, Cass Co. Tx. (This is my ancestor) Wife - Alice Caroline Allen b Oct. 26, 1848 in Ga. died Feb 14, 1930. buried in Harris Chapel, Cass Co. Tx. Her parents were Bryant L. Allen and Caroline Buchanon both from Ga. buried in Harris Chapel. Augustus Columbus Turner b Abt 1847 in Ga. Pleasant Ashbury Turner - one month old when census taken in 1850. 1st Wife - Mary Rose Hughes Earnest L. Turner b Feb 4, 1852 in Ga. died May 5, 1870 buried Harris Chapel. Charlie A. Turner b Aug. 24, 1855 in Ga. died Aug. 15, 1887 buried Harris chapel. Married Alice Bandy Mar 31, 1878. Son - Pink Turner b Feb 22, 1879 died Dec. 20,1900. Charlie Turner - Will probated 1890, Probate minutes Book C, Cass Co. Tx. pg 49-50 case #93. Alice Bandy Turner and Pink turner - both buried Hughes Springs Cemetary, Cass Co. Tx. Roberson H. Turner Jr. b June 20, 1860 in Tx. died Jan. 12,1884. buried Harris Chapel. George Turner - not listed on 1850 census. Could be oldest. No records found. (Family states he existed) Letter written as stated above. Dear Lena, I have been out of town a good deal since your letter came hence the delay in answering it. Yes, I go out to Juliane's and Eloise's frequently. I also go by to visit Nelsine and Tama. They are very intelligent and sweet women. I was in Naples about four months ago and a very kindly old lady took me out to the cemetary, and showed me where aunt Mandy (Amanda) and her children and husband are buried. This lady lives in a nice brick home on the main street and on a corner. She is related to Eloise. I know your house too, where Juliane, Eloise and a granddaughter of Mandys and I visited you all about 20 years ago or more. You were working at the picture show. Juliane and Eloise are among my favorite people. I was going to see Wade Turner's widow about a month ago, but got called out of town and didn't go. I'll never get Texas out of me either. I, like you, wish I new more about the Turners, but maybe I can tell you some things about them you would like to know. Your grandfather Jim Turner was my uncle. His widow was one of the prettiest old ladies I ever saw. My granfather Roberson Hill Turner was born in 1808 on a plantation in Jasper County, Ga. Monticello is the county seat. He married Frances Walton Banks (she was Irish) as was born in 1813. [He may of been mistaken, grave marker says 1818] The daughter of Eaton Banks a Jasper Co. farmer. In 1858 they moved to Texas with the slaves, the mules and horses, cattle, etc. They settled a mile from Hughes Springs. The journey was made in covered wagons, and started Nov. 1st and ended Christmas day. The home, slave quarter, barns, etc. were built of logs. I've heard that not only my father but several of his brothers were lawyers. The Turners originally came from England to Virginia and then to Georgia. I think there were nine sons and two daughters. The daughters wew Mabil who married Will Flemister, and Amanda who married P. Boyd who taught school at Naples. The sons were Jim, Earnest, Roberson Hill, Pleasant Ashbury - he was my father, Augustus Columbus, Charlie and I don't know the names of the others. Roberson Hill Turner died in 1868 and his wife, Frances Walton Turner died in 1871. They are buried in Harris Chapel Cemetary only about five miles out of Hughes Springs. Ernest Turner died 1870, Roberson Hill - named for his father - Turner died 1884, Charlie Turner died 1887, J.M. Turner - your grandfather died 1902 and they are all buried in Harris Chapel Cemetary. I go over the first Sunday in May to a homecoming at this pretty and well kept little cemetary and church. Juliane went with me this past May and that's when we had the nice visit with Homer and her husband. Pleasant is an old English given name and Ashbury is for the first Bishop in the Methodist Church in America. it was from England. My father's first wife was Mary Rose Hughes, the daughter of Reece Hughes who started Hughes Springs. His second wife was my mother. His wife died in 1894 and he married my mother in 1895. In my opinion the country around Hughes Springs is the prettiest anywhere. Tell Turner hello. I remember who well. Hurry and come back to God's country. Kindest regards, PA Turner 142 East Jordan St. PS Write again. Tell Lon hello. *PA Turner was a retired Vice President, Commercial National Bank, Shreveport. La. My ancestor was James Monroe Turner. Children: Hattae (Hattie) Turner b 1867, married John N. Phillips Willey M. Turner (Willie) b Jun, 1870 married Josea Prewitt Alcie Rose Turner (Gussie) b. Aug. 15, 1875 died July 1, 948. married Robert Hughes Alford - Aug. 21, 1891. buried Spring Hill Cemetary Morris Co. Tx. (Fay Allen Turner Lee is in my line - she was my grandmother. If anyone wants any more info. down this line, please let me know.) Fay Allen Turner b Oct. 15, 1877 in Hughes Springs, Cass Co. Tx. died May 21, 1943 in Bossier City, Benton Parish, La. Buried Forrest Park Cemetary in Shreveport, Caddo Parish, La. married William Ben Lee - May 3, 1894 Pittsburg, Tx. Sherwood Turner b 1881 wife Tama ______? Wade Turner b 1890 - wife Ruth_______? ===================== The end of this compilation.