Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:54:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Nyla Creed To: 102125.3126@compuserve.com, 72650.74@compuserve.com, ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu, AudraeM@aol.com, bbaughan@swva.net, BLACK@globe.com, burnett@kaizen.net, cdorian@accessone.com, cebel@success.net, cgaunt@umich.edu, ChickFlet@aol.com, chlamy@acpub.duke.edu, CHRISTIEFC@aol.com, connie.spaw@CBIS.COM, CW1210@aol.com, davidcon@microsoft.com, dfullam@albany.net, dmonreal@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us, DP6195@aol.com, ekirkman@swva.net, GDBurnette@aol.com, hoffman@gate.net, IRXP500@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU, j.@lgcy.com, jcross@metronet.com, jeffhatfield@mail.del.net, jlampkin@selu.edu, JMarieCox@aol.com, Knights5@aol.com, Lee_Turner@vapower.com, lrd@ornl.gov, Majie@sava.gulfnet.com, marockem@minot.ndak.net, mcclaran@ionet.net, mlsaps@mcn.net, N4JED@aol.com, ncreed@pop.erols.com, newbet@cy-net.net, Pat-Chesney@easy.com, PWhetzel@aol.com, RDurham250@aol.com, rhobson@sdcoe.k12.ca.us, ross@interramp.com, shauck@d.umn.edu, TARichmond@aol.com, tturner@mail.state.tn.us, turner@ccsi.com, turner@mind.net, waddie@earthlink.com, WittBates@aol.com, wjarrell@phoenix.phoenix.net Subject: Compilation #19 - Turner-Burnett-Via-Ross-Etc/Etc 20 June 1996 Dear Cousins, Today is the 133rd birthday of West Virginia. So, here's my birthday gift to you all--Compilation #19. Chris Gaunt's home page where the archives are stored: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt Please send any mail to me at ncreed@EROLS.COM. Nyla Creed DePauk 2832 Andiron Lane Vienna VA 22180 ================================== To: Nyla Creed From: Connie Spaw Date: 12 Jun 96 8:18:47 Subject: Re: Compilation #18 - Turner-Burnett-Via-Ross-Etc/Etc Nyla, You can pass my information along to the list if you like - maybe someone out there can help connect my Turner line. I guess for now let me remain on the list -- I am not bombarded with mail from it - and I did enjoy reading some of those old letters written by Permelia Turner about Ky. Also I added some siblings to my list of Turners below. Connie To: connie.spaw @ cbis.com (Connie Spaw) @ CBISINET cc: (bcc: Connie Spaw) From: ncreed @ erols.com (Nyla Creed) @ CBISINET Date: 06/11/96 06:45:54 PM Subject: Re: Compilation #18 - Turner-Burnett-Via-Ross-Etc/Etc Connie: I looked through all my old messages and didn't find your request to be added to the list since I was curious when your name was added. If you'd like me to delete your name from the list, I can do that. If you'd like me to add the information on your Turner line, I'll be glad to add it. Hopefully, someone can help you with your line of Turners. Just let me know if I should delete your name or leave it on the list, and whether you'd like to me to include the information you just sent me on your line. Thanks for sharing the Turner information. Nyla ================================= At 08:15 AM 6/11/96, you wrote: Hi Nyla, Somehow I got signed up on this Turner/Burnett mailing list, but the frustrating thing is: I don't know if my Turners are a branch of this family. Below is the family line I have figured out so far. These Turners lived in Pendleton Co. Ky and according to the Barton papers (Falmouth Library) they were originally from Virginia. But I haven't connected them to the Terisha Turner family ("Some Turner's of Virginia") (there is lots of Turner info in the Barton papers, but even that is conflicting in some cases). Do you think anyone out there would know the parents of John Turner Sr.? There sure are a lot of John Turners and it's confusing. Thanks, Connie, Campbell Co. Ky. connie.spaw@cbis.com John Turner Sr (1740) m. Sarah Fitzgerald | Mary Turner (1779) John T. Turner Jr. (1780) Thomas Turner Abraham Turner James Turner Jacob Turner William Turner Richard Turner m. ? | William Harrison Turner Thomas Turner Isaac Turner John Turner (1786) m. Catherine Lewis | Lewis Turner (1816) Richard Turner (1817) Thomas Turner (1820) Lucinda Turner (1825) Asa Turner (1827) James Turner (1829) Aspeneth Turner (1836) Even Turner (1822) m. Elvira Pettit (1830) | Mary Jane Turner (1848) Charles E. Turner (1850) James Turner (1852) Permelia Turner (1855) Asbury Lewis Turner (1860) Martha Jane Turner (1873) Isobel Turner (1857) m. Edward Belcher (1846) | Emma Belcher (1881) m. George Vater (1876) | Victor Vater (1922) m. Mary Bezold (1924) | Connie Vater (1949) m. Jim Spaw (1950) (ME!) =========================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 06:11:36 -0500 (CDT) From: steven hauck Subject: Re: Turner Surname To: Jeff Hatfield cc: Nyla Creed , shauck@d.umn.edu Jeff - I have forwarded your message to Nyla Creed DePauk who is the compiler on an informal newsgroup on the TURNER-BURNETT and related families. There are about 50 individuals who are a part of this newgroup. I am afraid that I don't have data for you, but someone in this group may. Thanks for the contact. Steve Hauck On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Jeff Hatfield wrote: Hi, I am looking for info on my great-great grandfather, Arthur Turner ( b. 1825). His second wife was Nancy Fox who was born in 1831 in VA. Nancy was probally an American Indian. Their son was my great grandfather, Virgil Turner (1867-1952). He lived in central WV. Any info would be helpful. Thanks jeff hatfield ------------------------------------------------------------ Does anyone know a new address for ALABAMA233 - D. Fisher? This seems to be the only correspondence I have from him. Subj: Re: TURNER-BURNETT-VIA-ETC/ETC COMPILATION #5 (1 of 1) Date: 96-02-29 21:45:20 EST From: ALABAMA233 To: NCreed I trace my roots back to Francis Turner of Patrick County, VA. He supposedly fought in the Revolutionary War. He had a son named Adam, who is my ancestor. I don't know anything about Adam. Does anyone in your group have any data? I would appreciate any help. Thanks, D. Fisher =============================================================== From: TARichmond@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 00:21:14 -0400 To: ncreed@erols.com Subject: Turners et al in VA TURNER - VA I'm looking for the ancestors/descendants and related families of Mary Frances TURNER (26 FEB 1833-?) (dau Meshach TURNER/Nancy Martin) m. MAR 1852 David Gardner Goode (son David Goode/Charity Ramsey (?)) Franklin/Henry Cos VA area. Children: m David Gardner Goode (2), MAR 1852 at Franklin County VA Peter Leftwich (b 05 FEB 1853) Virginia (b1855) Fanny (b1855) William Gardner (b 04 APR 1857) Benjamin Meshach (b 19 MAR 1859) Joseph Hamrick (b 17 APR 1861) David Henry (b 1863) Nannie Bettie (b 14 DEC 1865) Nancy E (b 14 DEC 1865) Norman Soloman (b 07 MAY 1868) Louisa M (b 1871) Mary F (b1873) Florence (b 03 MAY 1873) Also: information on William TURNER (?-?) (son of Meshach TURNER/Nancy Martin) m. Frances Goode (dau George Goode/Ellen Davis) in Franklin/Henry Co VA area. I also have a bunch of info on the GOODE family (1740-ca 1960) and relateds. I'll round up the names I have and e-mail you. Add my name to you researching families list, if you would! Any other information appreciated! TARichmond@aol.com 15 JUN 1996 ========== Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:38:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christine E. Gaunt" X-Sender: cgaunt@gorf.rs.itd.umich.edu To: Nyla Creed Subject: How to search the Turner list archives (Maiser) Nyla and All, Since we have another place to check for Turner info, I thought I'd tell you how to do it. I'm not on the list; I've too many lists as it is and am constantly having to deal with a full mailbox (sound familiar?). So here's how: 1. Get the directory of Turner files from the Maiser site via email: To : MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu Subject: Message: SEND tur.dir Be sure to remove any signature lines (like mine at the end of this email) as the computer will think they are part of the commands. 2. Once you get the directory file, look through it to see which one you want. Filenames are in this format: YY-MM-DD.TUR and they don't give you a clue as to what's in them. :-( I guess it's pot luck. :-) To get a file, send another message in this format: To : MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu Subject: Message: SEND where is the name of one of the files in the listing, such as 96-06-05.TUR. For this file, the command would be: SEND 96-06-05.TUR I did notice that the Turner files seemed to be mixed up with some of the other mailing lists -- but this problem has been corrected for future archives. 3. Common mistakes that Larry Stevens, the site maintainer, has noticed: a. sending the message to the wrong address. (Always use MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu) b. putting a period after the filename, as if you're writing a sentence. You're not. The computer doesn't understand the second period, and your request will error out if you put: 96-06-05.TUR. c. including a signature line. d. adding anything other than a command with the correct syntax. e. sending more than one command and goofing up on one of the lines. Larry suggests you send one command per message. ----- That's it. Oh, and if you want to find out filename extensions for the gazillion other lists at Maiser, send this command: SEND FILELIST to MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu -- once you know the extension (like .TUR for Turner) you can get the directories for any list. I've been trying to keep current on the surname lists and have been indexing the ones that John Fuller, my co-compiler for Genealogy Resources on the Internet, has been putting on his Mailing Lists page. You can find the index at: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/surnamelists.html Happy hunting, Chris Christine Gaunt, cgaunt@umich.edu Campbell-L listowner (campbell-l@genealogy.emcee.com) Co-compiler of Genealogy Resources on the Internet (web pages and file) Web: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gen_int1.html File (240K): via autoreply from gresinet.txt@genealogy.emcee.com ===================================== From: TARichmond@AOL.COM Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 00:53:17 -0400 To: ncreed@erols.com cc: bbaughan@swva.net Subject: TURNER Family Info Hi Nyla! I've been poring over the Compilations from the Website, and it's great seeing so much info that's available! :) Unlike some (most?) of the contributors to the TURNER Society (!), instead of working my way BACKWARD to ancestors, I'm working my way FORWARD from two common starting points to locate descendants. Any information I can find will be useful/appreciated! My connection with the TURNER line starts with 1) Mary Frances TURNER (dau of Meshach TURNER ((was he not as prominent in VA as bro. Shadrach?!?)) and Nancy MARTIN) m. MAR 1852 David Gardner GOODE (18 JUL 1827-05 MAR 1900) (son of David GOODE II and Charity RAMSEY); and 2) WIlliam B TURNER (son of Meshach TURNER and Nancy MARTIN) who married Frances GOODE (dau George GOODE and Ellen DAVIS). David II and George GOODE were brothers of my GGGGG-grandfather Jacob GOODE, and they were both sons of David Goode and Elizabeth Waltz/Metz (I've found two sources with two different surnames--which is correct? Haven't found out yet...) of Franklin County near Old Providence Church. I've gleaned quite a lot from the comps, adding relevant (and hopefully correct) information to my database as I come across it. ----- Here's some info, and a few questions thrown in also: (Don't get swamped by all the GOODEs...there are a few TURNERs, ROSSs, VIAs etc., in there too!) :) 1) Who are the children/grandchildren of William B TURNER and Frances GOODE (see above)? When were they married? When did they die? 2) Mary Frances TURNER (dau of Meshach TURNER and Nancy MARTIN) m. MAR 1852 David Gardner GOODE (18 JUL 1827-05 MAR 1900) (son of David GOODE II and Charity RAMSEY) Their Children & known descendants: 1 Peter Leftwich GOODE (05 FEB 1853-1924) m. Emma WOOLWINE 2 William GOODE 2 Neva GOODE m. (Unknown) JONES 2 Mary GOODE m. (Unknown) TULLY 2 Grace GOODE m. L E HUFFMAN 2 Fred GOODE 2 Emory GOODE m. (Unknown) JONES 2 Effie GOODE 1 Virginia GOODE (1855-?) 1 Fanny GOODE (1855-?) m. Thomas MCGHEE 2 Wilmer McGHEE m. (Unknown) KIRKS 2 Walter McGHEE 2 Minnie McGHEE (22 AUG 1877-?) m. Milton GOODE 1 William Gardner GOODE (04 APR 1857-06 MAR 1930) m. Callie Bettie WILLIAMS 2 Wharton GOODE m. (Unknown) SEAY 3 Joy GOODE 3 Gay GOODE 3 A Wharton GOODE 2 Selma GOODE m. (Unknown) BRYANT 3 Mae BRYANT 3 Lourine BRYANT 3 Erma BRYANT 3 Edith BRYANT 2 Roy GOODE 2 Gladys GOODE m. Elijah MULLINS 2 Emory H GOODE m. Virginia SELF 3 Emory H GOODE 2 Olea GOODE 2 Pearl GOODE m. (Unknown) TAYLOR 3 Truman TAYLOR. (Any info on other siblings? Descendants?) 2 William GOODE (1883-?) m. Blanche WADE 3 William David GOODE 3 Hilda GOODE 3 Frances GOODE 2 Lera GOODE (1885-?) m. George William ROSS (11 JAN 1879-?) 3 Archie L ROSS (01 OCT 1906-?) 3 Gertie ROSS (08 JUN 1908-?) m. Curtis O Roberson 3 Inez ROSS (18 FEB 1910-?) 3 Migno ROSS (07 OCT 1913-?) 3 Cristobel ROSS (20 SEP 1915-?) 3 William ROSS (10 APR 1922-?) 2 Odessa GOODE (1 NOV 1891-09 DEC 1944) 2 Marvin Jeter GOODE (04 OCT 1895-01 MAR 1977) m. (Unknown) 1 Benjamin Meshach (19 MAR 1859-06 JAN 1922) m. Fannie Mildred ROSS (dau of Abram Burnett--who is he?) (cited in "Pioneer Families of Franklin Co VA", by Marshall Wingfield) 2 Benjamin Clifford GOODE (21 JUL 1892-?) m. Mary Rebecca WILLIAMSON 3 Mary Williamson GOODE 2 Mabel Clare GOODE (21 SEP 1894-24 JAN 1967) 2 Abram Maury GOODE (23 APR 1897-29 JUN 1979) m. Grace Eleanor RAMSEY 3 Margaret Eleanor GOODE 2 Virgil Hamlin GOODE (31 JUL 1902-?) 2 Frances Catherine GOODE (31 JUL 1904-?) (school teacher in Henry Co--when?) 2 Beatrice Augusta GOODE (DEC 1907-?) 1 Joseph Hamrick GOODE (17 APR 1861-?) m. Jane EGGLESTON 2 Virgie GOODE 2 Lohn Letcher GOODE m. Lucy DAVIS 3 Ray GOODE 3 Dulce GOODE 2 Joseph GOODE m. (Unknown) CRUTE 2 Glenwood GOODE m. Harry Lee DAUGHTERY 3 Harry Lee DAUGHTERY 2 Esther GOODE m. Clifford SHAW 2 Dora GOODE 2 Alzie GOODE 1 David Henry GOODE (1863-?) m. Rosa NUTTER 2 Thomas GOODE 2 Frank GOODE 2 Esther GOODE 2 David GOODE 2 Charley GOODE 1 Nannie Bettie GOODE (14 DEC 1865-?) m. Wiley P WOODY 2 Ernest WOODY m. (Unknown) JARRETT (3 oldest children unknown--12 total) 3 Russell WOODY 3 Pearl WOODY 3 Mitchell WOODY 3 Mary WOODY 3 Lula WOODY 3 Harold WOODY 3 Glaude WOODY 3 Earl WOODY 3 Charlie WOODY 2 Benjamin P WOODY m. Lucy STOVALL 2 Annie WOODY m. Herbert STONE 1 Norman Soloman GOODE (07 MAY 1868-) m.Lula E DAVIS 2 Virginia Dare GOODE 2 Norman Soloman GOODE m. Mary WINN 2 Mildred GOODE 2 Mary Sue GOODE m. Robert VIA, principal of Henry High School (when?) 2 Lula Irene GOODE m. (Unknown) BOWEN 2 Holmes Irving GOODE 2 Harold D GOODE m. Margaret Bruce FRENCH 2 Hampton Gray GOODE 2 David Hurd GOODE m. Catherine JONES 3 Ann Goode 1 Florence GOODE (03 MAY 1873-?) m. Ernest L SCOTT 1 Louisa GOODE (1875-?) m. Pleasant B MASON Any help in filling some of my holes is truly appreciated! Glad to share what other info I have in my DB that I haven't posted here, and eager to connect with more cousins! On another Franklin Co note, does anyone have *any* information on the WYATT family? I'm looking for my GGgrandparents, specifically Dewey Franklin WYATT (?-1940/Ohio) (who came from NC) who m. Nancy Ellen GOODE (1878-1928) (who by 1855 was removed to Wyoming Co (W)VA with family) ca. 1895-ish. I know much about Nancy's family, but I know *absolutely nothing* about Frank's, except his descendancy. Again, any help is truly appreciated! Keep smilin'! :) Allen Richmond TARichmond@aol.com Kansas City MO 16 JUN 1996 C: Barbara C. Baughan//bbaughan@swva.net PS. Just got your mail--will pore over it and see what I find! Thanks again! -Tar. ======================================================== Subj: Turner Date: 96-06-20 14:58:44 EDT From: Lee_Turner@vapower.com To: NCreed@aol.com Dear Nyla, I am relatively new family research and absolutely new to email family research. I got your address from Terri Chesney of Waco, Texas. I really don't have a clue about the INTERNET but I'm trying to learn. I have access through my work. My fourth great grandfather was James Turner of Sussex Co, VA. His first wife was Elizabeth Edmunds, believed to be from Surry Co, VA. There children were as follows: William born 8/26/1754 Edmunds born 7/12/1759 died abt 1784 Nancy born 8/8/1764 my line: Vines born 11/13/1766 died 1812 Betsy born 3/1/1773 Later, James married Frances Betts. Their children were: Littleton Littlebery Vines (my third great) moved from Sussex Co, VA to Franklin Co, NC around 1806. He was the grandfather of two brothers: Henry Gray Turner, a US congressman from Georgia for most of the late 1800's, and Dr. Vines Edmunds Turner, a dentist from Raleigh, NC who served as president of both the Raleigh Dental Society and the North Carolina Dental Society. My cousins and I haven't been able to research beyond James. We do believe that his mother may have been a Jarrett. I know nothing of the "TURNER NEWSLETTERs" or "THE TURNER FAMILY MAGAZINE," and am curious if these publications would help me. Can you help? Also, please let me know how to subscribe to your newsletter. Thanks, Lee Turner 6434 McClellan Rd. Mechanicsville, VA 23111 (804) 781-0132 ============================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:07:03 -0600 From: "J. Winslow" To: cdorian@accessone.com, ncreed@erols.com, wjs-corp@kaman.com, j@lgcy.com, kyroots@LSV.UKY.EDU, SYCR90A@prodigy.com, ostreet@Voicenet.com Subject: John S. Burnett, Nelson Co. KY, New Lebanon, Sullivan Co. IN. For several months I have been trying to identify the parents and grandparents of John S. Burnett. I have tried posting short questions to several news groups and e-mail correspondence without much results. Deep in my heart I know that someone out there can help me unravel the Burnetts in Nelson Co. KY. circa 1780 - 1830. I will lay out the whole puzzle as I understand it. Much of the data comes from the books of June Bork. PLEASE if you can help me with any part of tis puzzle let me know either by return e-mail at this address or to j.@lgcy.com. I apologize for the legnth of this posting but this whole thing is driving me up the walls. I need help. John S. Burnett was born 19 Jan. 1804, in Nelson Co. Ky. In 1829, he married Susan Knot, in Nelson Co. Their first child William Fletcher Burnett (my GGgrandfather) was b. in New Lebanon IN. in 1830. Jefferson Co. KY. was formed from Kentucy Co. VA. in 1780. Nelson Co. KY. was formed from Jefferson Co. in 1785. Washington Co. KY. was formed from Nelson Co. in 1792. A person could live in three counties over the space of 12 years without moving. I think that this is what happened to the Burnetts. JEFFERSON Co. Land records show that John Burnett aquired 1750 acres of Land in Jefferson Co. between 1781 and 1785. A Joseph Burnett had 4000 acres. The 1800 tax list for Jefferson Co. show John Burnett. In 1807 Robert Burnett m. Polly Smith. The 1810 Census list the following Burnetts in Jefferson Co. William age 26-45 Robert age 26-45 Ann age 26-45 Thomas age 16-26 In 1845 William Burnetts will was proved in Jefferson Co. NELSON Co. The Nelson Co. Tax list show the following Burnetts 1785 John, Thomas 1787 John 1788 John, John (jr) 1789 Thomas 1791 John 1792 John, Thomas, John 1793 John, Thomas 1794 Thomas, John 1795 Thomas, John 1800 John, William, Thomas The identies of Tomas, the older John, and William with where they came from would be very helpful in determining if John S. is tied into the Virginia Burnetts. 1792 court reccord "The overseer of the poor bind Moses Burnett and William Burnett orphan of William Burnett. Who is the William Burnett who died and left an orphan William? Who is Moses Burnett and where did he come from? What is the connection between Moses and the Williams? I believe that the puzzle revolves arround Nelson Co. marriages. 1791 Benjamin Skidmore m. Sara Briant, Thomas Burnett posted bond. 1797 John Burnett m. Sara Skidmore a widow, John Burnett posted bond. 1798 William Burnett m. Elizabeth Skidmore, both over 21, John Burnett posted bond. 1798 Damy (Amy) Burnett m. James Skidmore. 1802 William G. Burnett m. Nancy Vest 1811 John Burnett m. Mary Meador widow of Richard Meador. Who are the parents of John, William, Damy, William G., and John Burnett? Are Benjamin, James and Elizabeth Skidmore brothers and sister. Who are William and William G. ? Given the tendency of Burnetts to name their first son after their father I believe that John S. is the son of William Burnett and Elizabeth Skidmore and that S. stands for Skidmore but I have no evidence. WASHINGTON Co. 1796 Robert Burnett m. Jane Coppage. Robert is the son of Moses Burnett and Rachel Morley. Lillian Burnett tells me that Moseswas born in 1750 in Virginia and m. Rachel Morley in 1770 in Virginia. They had 5 Children Robert b. 1773, John, William b. Kentucky, Moses, and Lettita. Is Moses decended from John Burnett, the Merchant from Edinburough,who settled in Old Rappahannock Co. Virginia? 1802 William m. Mary (Polly) Springer. I have seen a history of Sullivan Co. Indiana that indicated they settled in New Lebanon in 1806. They show on the 1810 Census for Washington Co. In 1813 the first Methodist meeting in Sullivan Co. was held in their home. Is William a natural son of Moses or the orphan William that was bound to Moses? Is there a tie between William and John S. that led John S. to move to New Lebanon as soon as he was Married? Someone out there must know about these people. If anyone can help me with any information on any of these people it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for reading through this. =============================================================== Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:02:49 -0400 From: Waddie B Salmon To: Nyla Creed Subject: Re: What's happening? References: <199606140045.UAA14687@smtp2.erols.com> Hi Nyla, And all the wannabe cousins! I'm going to repost what I did before for anyone who missed it. Anyone who's line runs to/through Williamson Burnett, b. Buckingham County, Va. and died in Bedford Cord Co., Virginia, I have photographs of his gravesite. Old field stone, hand carved and readable! He moved some years ago to the Staunton River Church near Smith Mountain Lake. If you would like a FREE copy of the photograph, let me know. I just acquired a photograph of Elisha Calahill Burnett, my 1st cousin, six times removed. If you would like a copy of this one, I'm afraid it's $1.50 as I could only take it to Kinko's and have it photocopied. Excellent photo of him. Again, let me know. Your Cuzin, Waddie Salmon BM1 USN RET. "Travlin' Man" Lynchburg, Va. ====================================================== The end of this compilation.