Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:33:14 -0400 (EDT) From: NCreed1@aol.com To: NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp 181 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 18 Aug 1997 Greetings to Everyone. A big welcome to our new members. Be sure to check out all our compilations on Chris Gaunt's home page. Thanks to Kevin, all the files have been zipped. I'll be making a quick trip back East this week. So, this is the last compilation until next week. If you have any information to share, be sure to send it my way so we can have another compilation next week. If you see an address that doesn't look complete, it probably is someone that has the same onLine service as I have. In most cases, just add @aol.com. Nyla CREED DePauk San Diego CA ======================== Subj: Re: Comp 180 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-08-16 07:12:42 EDT From: PEGTRAV To: NCreed1 I'm hoping to find a connection of this "Elizabeth/Betsey Turner" to my Fitzpatricks and Pattersons. Madison Co., Ky. 1850 Census FITZPATRICK, Frances 64f Va. Alexander(fmr) 42m Va. TURNER, Elizabeth 56f Va. Eliza 38f Va. FITZPATRICK, Mirion 26f Va. Cyrus U. Madison Co., Ky. 1860 Census PATTERSON, Allen *(farmer) 43 m Ky. Miriam 36 f Ky. George 2 m Ky. Mary F. 4 f Ky. Samuel 5/12 m Ky. TURNER, Betsey Email Pegtrav@AOL.com ====================== Subj: BURNETT'S Date: 97-08-16 09:08:14 EDT From: calgofo@cityscope.net (Calvin Goforth) HI gang, I have been doing research on my Burnett's again. I am looking for info. on a Thomas Jefferson Burnett. He was born ca. 1830 in Tenn. and the 1850-1880 census has his parents listed as being born in Va. He and a good many other Burnett's moved from Tenn. to Ray Co. Missouri in the mid 19th century. Anytbody got some info? Thanks, Calvin ====================== Subj: Re: Question Date: 08/16/97 To: casey-sc@worldnet.att.net In a message dated 97-08-16 06:45:09 EDT, you write: <> Sherry, By all means, send whatever you think is your line. Ask for help with corrections or additions. We were all inexperienced at one time. I would guess that most of us have made wrong placements (although sometimes it's hard to admit). Asking for help is the only way folks know you're wanting help. That's what this list is all about. Hopefully, when someone finds a mistake in our "work", they will point it out to us so we can get back on track. Nyla ===================== Subj: TURNER reunions Date: 97-08-16 13:15:37 EDT From: kturner@cmc.net (kturner) Reply-to: kturner@cmc.net I would appreciate knowing if there are any Turner reunions on the horizon. Our line is Thomas Turner of New London, CT. (appears there at age 20 in 1720, marries 1727, dies there 1791). Still hoping for a national Turner reunion somewhere we can attend. Thanks. Kathy Turner Edmonds, WA. ====================== Subj: Problems with my ISP Date: 97-08-17 08:21:40 EDT From: pward@express-news.net (Paula Ward) I have been having problems with my Internet Service Provider. They wiped out my account a few days ago, and finally managed to get me back online a few minutes ago. If you have sent any Turner newsletters to me that have bounced...probably in the past week, I'll go check out the website to look at them. If you've removed me from your list, could you please add me back? Thank you. Paula %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Paula Kelley Ward PWard@Express-News.Net KELLEY, KELLY, O'KELLY List Owner To subscribe: send a message to KELLEY-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word: subscribe and nothing else; turn off signature file. Virginia: HAIRSTON, HALE, INGRAM, KELLEY/KELLY, KEY, JONES, PAYNE, PETERS, PYRTLE, SLEDD, SMITH, TANNER, TROUP, TURNER, WADE, WEBSTER, WILLIS Kentucky: KELLEY/KELLY (collateral: CARTER, HAYNES, JARRELL/JERRELL, ROACH) Germany>New York: HECKMAN(N), JAECKEL Ireland>New York: DURKIN, MOONEY, MULLEN, WALDRON ================================================ Subj: Re: Comp 180 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-08-17 07:45:01 EDT From: Pat-Chesney@easy.com (Terri Chesney) This is Terri -organizer of Terisha Turner newsletter - on the Allied Families mentioned in last compilation - >>> Subj: Re: Comp 179 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-08-13 21:30:54 EDT From: anhughes@palmnet.net (Ann N. Hughes) Nyla and David, This message is in response to Comp 179 and the Allied Families of VA, Inc. When O.E. Pilson took me and my husband to see the Allied Families pavalion in May of 1995, I took a picture of the dedication plaque on the building. It lists only 15 families--Andreson, Burnett, Corn, Hatcher, Houchins, Pedigo, Pendleton, Pilson, Ross, Stovall, Turner, Wood, Via, Jamison, and Price. I assume the other two you mention, David, have been added since I have been there. Could you post the names of the new families, please? Ann <<<<<<< Noticed Stoval and Turner and had seen evidences that some of the Turners. They were in some ways connected to kin of our Turners and Stovals. Do you know what basic background these Allied families were -Scots? English? Welsch? Irish? On the Scots Irish list I sub to we have recently discussed how the people that migrated from Scotland to Ireland and then to America would stay within a circle of close friends. And that if you could ever get the names of those close circle of friends then you would probably have your ancestor families. And these folks would go back generations and generations. I find that is true in the families I research. For example Terisha Turner in Albemarle Co. VA in 1700's was next neighbors with Lyon family and their children intermarried. The following Turner generations of my branch migrated to Sumner co. Tn and then the following generations migrated to Tx where they lived in Hays Co and then in a small town south of San ANtonio called Pleasanton. My grandmother who lived there growing up knew all her relatives and grand and great grandparents there in that small town. She had a best friend from childhood days and they are both in the nursing home now. I asked her just to check and see what the maiden name was of her best friend. When she said Lyon I laughed out loud. It is incredible!! Two hundred fifty years later and these two families are still hanging around each other :) Was reading a biography of Sam Houston the other day and it describes how he met the woman he married and raised a big family with there in Tx. He was visiting in La and heard a woman talking behind him whose voice sounded just like his mothers. He was interested in her immediatly and when introduced later knew she was the one he heard talking. She happened to be the daughter of the family that was hosting him and to his chagrin learned she was the daughter of a minister and was only 19. He thought she'd never have anything to do with him. :) But what first attracted him to her was her voice. Her last name was Lee. He was from Sumner Co. Tn like our Turner folks and this girl sounded like his mother. I know the Lee family was big in VA and I think his family was from VA also have to check but in talking to my husband about that whole kind of subject he said it was like a memoria -we are attracted to and like certain things because our ancestors did etc and especially if the group was from a certain culture, race, religion. What I wanted to know about where the Allied group was from because I am still trying to pin down where my Terisha Turner was born. One book said Scotland, another book said thinks he was the immigrant of the family but doesn't know for sure where from. Another source says Buckinghamshire England and other sources say he was born in VA. So if you or any one on the list has any knowledge of where that group was from I'd really like to know. Also wanted to say about the archives and saving these compilations. I've saved mine, actually all my Turner posts in an email folder in my eudora program. I learned that I could use the edit word at the top of my screen when I am in Eudora program and scroll down it to the FIND word -select it and another FINd box comes up that lets me type in a word or phrase to search. Then I pull up my Turner email file and select or blue in the top post at the very top of the file the earliest email I've received -several yrs ago now - and then go back and hit the find box that is still up. Immediately a search is in progress through all the Turner posts for that one word or phrase. When it finds an email letter with that word in it it shows the letter on the screen with the word in blue so I can find it in seconds. I copy and paste the info I want onto a new blank file and then hit the next button and the search continues. As I look over each email it brings up I can select info and paste it to the new file. When finished I then save the file or email it to someone if I'm trying to help someone find something. This is avery valueable tool that everyone should know about. If you are really interested in researching you will want to keep all the posts and be able to use this search feature. In moments you can find every email post that has ever been posted with for example the name of the town where your ancestors live. Or of course with the name of your ancestor and the more unusual name the more helpful. It also shows you if nothing has ever been posted about your particular family which at least tells you you haven't missed anything and no one is on this list so far that is going to be able to help you. My husband has also gotten a program fixed up for us that will search text in all of my files not just in EUdora. So I mention this to everyone the incredible value of all the posts that have been made to this Turner newsletter of Nylas that it might help you on other family lines as so many different families married into the Turners and we've had some long posts with hundreds of wife lines. I find lots of clues for other families just reading over the posts. Certain first names were used among certain groups and you learn what locals and cultures, religions, they were used in for instance. If you run across any info about a Terisha Turner I'd be glad to hear about it. Thanks, Terri Chesney Pat Chesney Pat-Chesney@easy.com Waco, Texas ================================ Subj: Willie Catherine Elizabeth VIA & Charles Edgar POWELL Date: 97-08-17 18:27:37 EDT From: bakunin@ix.netcom.com (Jordan Jones) To: NCreed1@aol.com Nyla -- Please add me to the Burnett/Turner/Via/Ross/Etc/Etc mailing list. In the archives, I found the following: ---------------------------- Subj: family name Via Date: 96-03-17 20:01:26 EST From: CW1210 To: NCreed I asked to join your mailing because of interest in family name of Burnett. However I notice the name Via listed in your compilation. I am also looking for anyone with information concern the marriage/families of Charles (Chas) E. Powell and Willie C. Via in Albemarle County, Va. December 24, 1884. ========================================== The from line doesn't give me an address to send e-mail to. Is there a way to contact this person? Maybe they're still on the list. The people he/she mentions are my g-g-grandparents. Here's what I know: John Robert VIA (a brother to Thomas David VIA, below?) Rebel Veteran of the Civil War Thomas David VIA b. Albemarle Co., VA Union Veteran of the Civil War m. Sallie E. ? Willie Catherine Elizabeth VIA, dau. of Thomas David b. January 22, 1869, Charlottesville, Albemarle, VA m. Charles Edgar POWELL (b. in VA; d. 1921 in Hinton, Summers Co., WV) d. January 16, 1937 probably in Hinton, Summers Co., WV Most of this is from family tradition. I have requests in for death certificates with the state of WV. Anybody recognize these folks? ---------------------- Jordan Jones bakunin@ix.netcom.com ======================= Subj: BURNETT/TURNER Date: 97-08-17 21:14:44 EDT From: T8642 To: NCreed1 Hello Nyla, I am researching my Burnett line. I just happen to have Jeremiah Amos Burnett b:May 15,1824 in Howard Co., Mo the fifth child of Samuel Burnett and Lavinia Cox. Married to Nancy Turner (1829-1869) daughter of George Washington Turner and Lucy Thomas. Jeremiah was the brother of Ellen Burnett b: about 1834 in Mo., married to William Lee ? Does this help you? And do you have anything that may help me with my Ellen Burnett LEE? Thank you. Please reply soon. Joyce Tadlock Princeton, Texas ==================== Subj: Re: Comp 176 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-08-18 12:35:21 EDT From: MAStalling To: NCreed1 Dear Nyla, I have a wonderful huge book on the Stallings Family Geneology for that side of my family going back to 1635, and wonder if anyone has done the same with the Turners? Anyone having any information on this might drop your newsletter a line? Thanks Michelle ======================== Subj: Turner Geneaology Date: 97-08-18 14:48:03 EDT From: DeeperWtr@aol.com To: NCreed1@aol.com Please send any information and or newsletters. I am attempting to discover the parents of James Turner (b 11 Aug 1758 - d 20 Sep 1851). He was married to Mary Johnson ( b 1774 - d 21 Feb 1860) They both died in Kentucky, however, I am not sure where they migrated from. Thank you for your time and consideration. R. Edward Turner, Ph.D. ====================== Subj: Re: TURNER Mailing List Date: 97-08-18 15:12:34 EDT From: deeperwtr@aol.com (DeeperWtr) To: ncreed1@aol.com (NCreed1) Thank you very much for including me with any information or mailing you may have. I am trying to find the connection of James Turner of Kentucky (b 11 Aug 1758 - d 20 Sep 1851) to the Virginia Turners. James Turner was married to Mary Johnson (b 1774 - d 21 Feb 1860) R. Edward Turner, Ph.D. 410-263-4101 Annapolis, MD ============================== Subj: My Turner family Part 1 Date: 97-08-18 06:30:33 EDT From: casey-sc@worldnet.att.net (Caseys) Reply-to: casey-sc@worldnet.att.net To: NCreed1@aol.com Dear Nyla and group, I'm sending you an list of my ancestors. I don't have documentation on all of them. Some of them are mine and my cousin's best guess. I haven't seen any of them of your list so far, but maybe someone will read this and connect with us. My Turner family married and moved with the McDonald family. I'll start with John Turner born in 1730 in Southampton County, Virginia and died on 24 January 1804 in Warren County, Kentucky. He married Patience unk in Southampton County, VA in 1759. We think their children included Henry born 1760, John Jr. born 1762, Michael born 1768, Isham born 1769, and Durham born 1771. The first record we found of John Turner in Warren County, Kentucky is when he bought 50 acres of land on 8 August 1799 from W. B. Barren. John and Henry Turner were the first Turners recorded in Warren County on the tax record taken 10 September 1800, page 310. John Turner was recorded with 50 acres and one horse on the Warren County tax record for 1801 and 1803. He died in Warren County, Kentucky on 24 January 1804 and probably left his homestead to his older son Henry for the care of his widow, Patience Turner. Durham and Phoebe Turner witnessed his will. John Turner, Jr. was born in 1762 in Southampton County, Virginia where he married Mary unk in 1792. They had eight children. Fielding b 1793VA Levy b 1795VA m 1820 Nancy Patrick Mathias b 1796VA Elijah b 1796VA m 1821 Unity S. McDonald d 1839AL Thomas b 1801KY m 1823 Libby d 1848MS Daughter b 1804KY Lorenzo Dow b 1806KY m 1829 Judah McDonald d 1896MS Henry/Wren b 1808KY d AL Allen McDonald was the father of Unity and Judah McDonald. Allen McDonald and John Turner Jr. let their families south from Bowling Green, Kentucky in 1827. They crossed Tennessee and settled near Guin in Marion County, Alabama. The two families were neighbors in Kentucky and probably had a common Scotch heritage. The 1830 census for Marion County, AL, page 176 records Allen McDonald and Elijah Turner living next door to each other. Lorenzo Dow Turner was recorded on page 175 and Thomas Turner was on page 160. Allen McDonald was recorded on the 1850 census for Marengo County, Alabama on page 93. He died there in 1854 at the age of 80, living with his son Angus McDonald. Elijah Turner was born in Southampton County, VA in 1796. He and his Twin brother Mathias were 3 years old when the family moved to Kentucky. Elijah married Unity S. McDonald on 31 January 1821 in Warren County, KY. Unity was born 6 February 1806 in Warren County, KY. Elijah and Unity had eight children. The first two were born in KY and the last six were born in Alabama. They are as follows: William b 1823 married Catherine Wise Angus b 1825 married Catherine Burrow James F b 1828 married Maria Richbourg Isaac b 1830 married Mary A. Taylor Lorenzo b 1833 married Mary Richbourg Fielding b 1834 Martha b 1836 Lucinda b 1839 Unity Turner was recorded in Monroe County, MS in 1850 as head of household with her five youngest children. Isaac, Lorenzo, Fielding, Martha and Lucinda. Her oldest son William and his family were living 2 houses away. The second son Angus was still living in Marion County, Ala in 1850 and was recorded on page 114 of the census. He later moved to Monroe County, Ms where his seven children were born. Angus Turner died in Monroe County, MS after 2 February 1874. His widow Catherine Burrow Turner was recorded on the 1880 census as head of household. The third son James F. married Maria Richbourg on 8 October 1854 in Monroe County, MS. The marriage is recorded in Monroe County Marriage Records, Book 4, page 401 and lists Unity S. Turner as the mother of James F. Turner. ===================== Subj: My Turner Family Part 2 Date: 97-08-18 03:23:54 EDT From: casey-sc@worldnet.att.net (Caseys) Reply-to: casey-sc@worldnet.att.net To: NCreed1@aol.com William Turner the first son of Elijah and Unity was born in Warren County, KY. He was only 16 in 1739, when his father died, and he became the main provider for his mother and his seven younger siblings. The records indicate that most of the Turner and McDonald families moved away from Marion County about this time and Unity and the younger children may have lived with relatives. The next record we have is that William Turner married Catherine Wise on 17 March 1842 in Monroe County, MS. Catherine's parents were James and Ann Wise. The Wise family was traced to Sumter and Clarendon Counties in South Carolina. William Turner was recorded on the 1850 census for Monroe County on page 35. He was shown as a Laborer, who was born in 1823 in Kentucky. His wife was recorded as Catherine, age 26, born in 1824 in Mississippi. Three children were recorded on the census. They were living near several of Catherine's Wise family relatives. William and Catherine's children were John H. b 1842 m 1867 Elmira Clay in Monroe County Sarah M. b 1844 Amanda E. b 1849 m 1863 Richard Deas in Monroe County Phelan Shafer b 1851 m 1872 Frances Constanza Harris in Monroe County The next reference to William and Catherine Turner was on a Petition for Guardianship filed in Monroe County, MS on 4 Jyly 1859 by John H. Turner, the 17. The Petition asked that the Court appoint George W. Morgan as the legal Guardian for John H. Turner and his younger siblings: Sarah M., Amanda E., and Phelan Shafer Turner. The Petition affirmed that their parents William and Catherine Turner were both dead. It further stated that William Turner had left real and personal property in the State of Texas equal to about $100.00 for each of his children. The names of the children, the parents, and the dates match. =================== The end of this compilation.