Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 00:26:24 -0400 (EDT) From: NCreed1@aol.com To: NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp 158 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 2 August 1997 Dear Cousins, More information. Nyla ==================== Subj: Turners of Patrick Co, Va Date: 97-08-02 10:16:24 EDT From: jbbork@ix.netcom.com The following records are from BURNETTS and THEIR CONNECTIONS, Vol. 1:201a-201c (updated): Turner Family Records FRANCES TURNER SR left Albemarle Co, Va where he served in the Revolutionary War and patented many areas of land around the Smith River area now known as Patrick Co and Montgomery Co, Va. Smith River was formerly called Irvin River and this is where Francis died in 1804. He wrote his will on 1 Oct 1803 and was recorded in Oct of 1804 (Will Bk 1:73). He said, "...I lend to my well beloved wife ELIZABETH during her natural lifetime the land and plantation I NOW LIVE ON lying below a line beginning at a small branch south of Smith River at Thomas Flowers corner to BURNETTS SANTEE PLACE also all the slaves & their increase excepting BOLIN. [Obadiah Burnett's son JEREMIAH S. BURNETT was called SANTEE to distinquish him from the other Jeremiahs]. Francis Turner bequeathed to his daughter ESTHER PILSON 22 pounds her husband WILLIAM PILSON had borrowed for a mare... also to have a 100 pound Bond due from ROWAN & SCOTT [merchants]. If BOLIN is living at his death he was to be sold and the price of him equally divided between the children of said daughter. To son ADAM TURNER - 1 Negro, my still, & all vessels & at his MOTHERS DEATH, one Negro girl. I lend him a Negro boy until his son Francis arrives at the age of 21, then to him. If Francis should die, then sell him and divide the money amongst his brothers and sisters. To son JAMES TURNER, the original survey he now lives on [175 acres] also 2 tracts in MONTGOMERY CO containing 399 acres and at his mothers death, 3 slaves. To son JOHN TURNER, the part of tract I NOW LIVE ON lying above the line described earlier; 2 Negroes at his mothers death and I lend him 1 Negro until his son Francis reaches age 21. To sons, ADAM, JAMES & JOHN TURNER and son in law ROBERT ROWAN all that part of land lying on the BLUE RIDGE except 250 acres belonging to Robert Rowan. This contains 1225 acres and to be equally divided. To my daughter BETSY [Elizabeth] ROWAN at her mothers death, all the part of plantation that was to wife. To dear wife during her lifetime all the house furniture, farming utensils with all stock on hand after ESTHER PILSON is paid. I leave 10 pounds cash to support supplies or members of the OLD PRESBYTERIAN DENOMINATION at $4.00 per year. Executors: Sons, ADAM, JAMES & JOHN.. /s/ FRANCIS (x) TURNER.. Wit: Wm. James Mayo, Bennett Houchins, Wm. Hancock, Richard Thomas. Wm. Burnett & Alex. Lackey. 1808 Jan 18 - Patrick Co, Va Will Bk 1:153 Estate sale of FRANCIS TURNER, DEC'D made by consent of ELIZABETH TURNER. Bonds on following: JOHN TURNER, Malacha Parmer, Wm. Thompson, JAMES TURNER, Wm. Harris Jr, Samuel Harris, Richard Nowlin, Richard Sharp, James Farrel, George Lackey & RICHARD PILSON. Total: 138 lbs, 6 shillings, 6 pence. 1816 Dec Court - Patrick Co, Va - Will Bk 1:163-4: Estate Sale of FRANCIS TURNER, dec'd by Adam, James and John Turner, Executors. Balance due each legatee: $253.91; PAID ADAM TURNER FOR KEEPING HIS MOTHER 3 YEARS & 3 MONTHS, $150. 1817 Sep Court Order Bk 2: ADAM TURNER appt. Admr. of ELIZABETH TURNER, dec'd. Children of Francis & Elizabeth Turner: 1. ESTHER TURNER m. WILLIAM PILSON, son of Richard Pilson Sr & Elizabeth 2. ADAM TURNER m. MARY PILSON 3. JAMES TURNER m. 1796 to ELIZABETH HARRIS, dau of Wm Harris Sr & Sara. Elizabeth was sister of Reuben Harris Sr. 4. JOHN TURNER m. 1793 to JUDITH ROBERTSON, dau of David & Milly. 5. ELIZABETH "Betsy" TURNER m. 1798 to ROBERT ROWAN. The above mentioned WILLIAM BURNETT, Wm. James Mayo and Alex. Lackey along with James Harris, brother of Elizabeth and Reuben Sr, all moved to Floyd Co, Ky. Ann, wife of James Turner may be daughter of Adam Lackey of Albemarle & Amherst Co, Va. ADAM TURNER was born 6 Feb 1762 in Albemarle Co, Va; died bef. 12 Mar 1835 in Patrick (Will Bk 8:483). His mother ELIZABETH died in his home in 1817 where she had lived since her husband FRANCIS died in 1804. Adam m. about 1787 to MARY PILSON, b. 11 Feb 1766. Ch. of Adam & Mary: 1. ELIZABETH TURNER, b. 21/24 Nov 1788; d. 22 Mar 1874; m. 26 Jan 1815 in Patrick to HENRY HALL, b. 1780; d. 25 Feb 1879. 2. MARGARET "Peggy" TURNER, b. 23 Jan 1790; d. ca 1809 in Patrick; m. there, 20 Oct 1807 to CORNELIUS BURNETT, son of John Burnett & Eliz. Tate; Neely m. 2/ MILDRED STONE & moved to Trigg Co, Ky & died in 1833. 3. JOHN TURNER, b. 1 Jul 1791 in Patrick; m. 31 Mar 1814 to SARAH "Sally" BURNETT, dau of WM. & ELIZABETH BURNETT. 4. MARY TURNER, b. 22 May 1793; m. 17 Oct 1811 to JOHN THOMAS, son of Charles Thomas Sr & Judith Patterson; living 1850 in Floyd Co, Va (#599). 5. FRANCIS TURNER JR, b. 4 Jan 1795; d. 1871; m. 21 Jan 1817 to NANCY THOMAS (1803-1870+); dau of Charles Thomas Jr & Deborah Jordan [is Deborah a desc. of James Jordan connected to the Tuggle family of Middlesex Co, Va??]. 6. ESTHER TURNER, b. 26 Nov 1796; m. 14 Sep 1815 to SAMUEL SNEED, son of John Sneed & Nancy Pedigo who m. 2/ after John Sneed died, to JOHN TUGGLE SR, widower of Elizabeth Harrison Tuggle. John Tuggle & Elizabeth Harrison were the ancestors of many, many BURNETTS who settled in Wayne Co, Ky. 7. SARAH "Sally" TURNER, b. 28 Jan 1798; m. 16 Dec 1815, RUSSELL HALL 8. MAARTHA "Patsy" TURNER, b. 22 May 1801; d. 1875 in Patrick; m. there 24 Nov 1825 to RICHARD THOMAS, b. 3 Aug 1773; d. 18 Sep 1852 in Patrick; son of Charles Thomas Sr & Judith Patterson. 9. ADAM TURNER JR, b. 17 Apr 1803; m. 24 Aug 1826 to LUCY NOWLIN (1805-1881), dau of Richard Nowlin & MARY BURNETT, dau of Jeremiah II. 10. GANAY "Jane" TURNER, b. 22 Mar 1805; m. 4 Jun 1835 to JEREMIAH BURNETT III (1761-1848). 11. DIACK (Dick/Richard) TURNER, b. 18 Jan 1807; m. 21 Dec 1830 to CELIA GEORGE; Bondsman for marriage: MICAH JOHNSON who m. JUDITH BURNETT, dau of JEREMIAH III. Richard Turner was Bondsman for his sister Jane & Jeremiah Burnett's marriage. The George Family was very connected to the BURNETTS & GATEWOODS. 12. NANCY TURNER, b. 1 Nov 1809. The Turner Bible Record was in possession of Mrs. Myrtle Wood of Woolvine, Va and submitted by Mr. James Turner of Kettering, Ohio (now dec'd). The Bible was published 1793 in Scotland and contains the ADAM TURNER family of Patrick Co, Va. Descendants of the Patrick County Turners say there are two distinct families unrelated in Patrick, but I am not so sure. Sometime ago, I did a great deal of Turner research beings my Jeremiah Burnett married (Ganay) Jane Turner. Mr. O.E. Pilson, author of PATRICK CO, VA CEMETRIES is also a Turner descendant and to quote from a letter he wrote me on 25 Nov 1983: "...I SUSPECT THAT THIS FAMILY OF TURNERS [Shadracks] ARE RELATED TO FRANCIS, but I have no proof at this time. According to the stories that have come down, Francis Turner was born in Northern Ireland and came to Albemarle Co, Va before the Revolution. He owned a farm in western Albemarle which he sold in 1780 and moved to the Smith River area of Patrick Co along with my ancestor William Pilson who married his daughter Esther. Francis seems to have been a devout Presbyterian since he bequeathed a sum of money in his will to the support of the church. This would indicate that he was SCOTCH-IRISH. The tradition is that SHADRACK & his brothers, MESHACK & ABEDNIGO came from England. Meshack originally settled in Franklin Co, Va but later migrated to Georgia. Abednigo settled in Bedford Co, Va. The descendants of these Turners speak of their ancestors as the British Turners, while Francis' descendants speak of themselves as the Irish Turners. Since both Turner families were from Great Britian, IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE THAT THERE WAS SOME KINSHIP...How close It may have been, I have no real idea. THE FACT THAT YOU FOUND EVIDENCE OF SHADRACK HAVING LIVED IN ALBEMARLE CO, VA WOULD INDICATE THAT ALL OF THESE TURNERS WERE RELATED..." 1750 Aug 8 - Albemarle Co, Va - Deed Bk 1:212 Richard Taylor to Peter Bondurant.. 10 lbs for 200 acres on both sides of Green Creek of Slate.. Wit: SHADRACK TURNER, John Spencer, Mary Spencer. 1760 Feb 6 - Halifax Co, Va - Marriages MESHACK TURNER to REBECCA ROBERTSON [the Robertsons are connected to the Smalls & Burnetts]. 1763 Feb 17 - Halifax Co, Va - Marriages: JAMES TURNER to MARY McMAHANEY. Bondsman: Wm. Wright. 1782 Halifax Co, Va - Tax List FRANCIS TURNER - 2 whites [including female] JAMES TURNER - 9 whites, 4 blacks 1782 Pittsylvania Co, Va - Tax List MESHACK TURNER - 8 whites, 10 blacks SHADRACK TURNER - 8 whites, 2 blacks ======================= Date: 08/02/97 From: Jbbork@ix.netcom.com Nyla, beings I have not down loaded your past newsletters, I do not know what has been previously printed. All that I wrote today has probably already been done, so please delete or cut down... Thanks, June [June, It never hurts to repeat information. I just compile the eMails. I don't "edit" the contents. Nyla] ===================== Subj: Pleasanton Scottish Games Date: 97-08-02 10:37:11 EDT From: jbbork@ix.netcom.com The 132nd Annual Scottish Gathering & Games will be held over Labor Day week-in on Saturday and Sunday, 30-31 Aug 1997 at the Alameda County Fairgrounds in Pleasanton, California - 8 am to 5 pm. The two days of Games & Gathering are preceded in the community by a week of pre-Game activities. The week-end event is filled with international piping competition, soccer, full sheepdog trials, world-class fiddling and harping, Royal Scottish Country Dancing and nat'l championship competitions in Highland Dance. The highlight of the celebration is of course, the U.S. Invitational Heavy Events Championships, which include the famous "Tossing of the Caber." Approximately 100 families and societies are anxious to share their history and traditions with the inquiring people. The HOUSE OF BURNETT will have their own section. [Wear casual clothing. You may bring your lunch. See you there]. ====================== Subj: Turner/Lee Connection Date: 97-08-02 13:53:27 EDT From: nettie@erols.com (Nettie S. Clifton) Reply-to: nettie@erols.com I read somewhere that Thomas Turner was a cousin of General Robert E. Lee on his mothers side. (Robert E Lee's mother was Ann Hill Carter, dau of Charles Carter & Anna Moore) Who was Thomas Turner's mother? Any help would be appreciated. Nettie S. Clifton Catonsville MD nettie@erols.com ================= Subj: Re: Comp 157 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-08-02 23:21:06 EDT From: Witt Bates In a message dated 97-08-02 22:40:55 EDT, you write: << I need some help with a HOLLAND connection for a friend. >> I too need some help with a HOLLAND. Seeking parentage for Dicy Holland who married John Witt (son of David Witt & Sarah Harbour) in 1783 in Henry County, VA Wayne Witt Bates ================= Subj: Re: Allied families list Date: 97-08-02 03:27:04 EDT From: STONEFACE@prodigy.net (Thomas F. O'Connell) Reply-to: STONEFACE@prodigy.net File: PEREGOY1.rtf (771061 bytes) DL Time (14400 bps): < 15 minutes Nyla, this is the companion work to part I of David Jones' post on the Pedigo's This is the 1st 6 generations and about as correct as we can get it. The usual cavet applies as nothing is perfect and I do make dumb mistakes at times. It's a RTF file can be saved as TxT or RTF then opened in your word processor. You can than save it in any format you wish. TTYL Tom Thomas F. O'Connell 1241 California Road Eastchester NY 10709-1016 E-Mail; Stoneface@prodigy.net E-Mail; lenp56c@prodigy.com ICQ Pager; http://wwp.mirabilis.com/508762 Home Page; http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3588/ [NOTE: The next 17 compilations are Tom's PEREGORY info. -- Nyla] ======================= The end of this compilation.