Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:55:32 -0400 (EDT) From: NCreed1@aol.com To: NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp 147 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 8 July 1997 Hello to Everyone: Trying to keep up with all your wonderful eMails. Be sure to check all our compilations at Chris Gaunt's homepage: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt Nyla CREED DePauk ================= Subj: RE Comp 141 Date: 97-07-08 09:38:51 EDT From: KarenWood CC: N4JED Nyla, I was reading Descendants of James Turner from David (n4jed@aol.com) when I got excited in seeing in generation 3 that Richard Turner had married Celia George. I have same info from George Family History, based on Bible records. INTERESTINGLY, the Richard Turner in Comp 141 was born about 1728 and died 1769, while the Celia George I have was born 18 Sep 1806 Pittsylvania Co, D/o Hugh George and Ceelia McHaney m. 1830 to Richard Turner of Bedford/Patrick Co. What is most interesting is that the George family all originated in Caroline Co, so there must be an earlier marriage between a Richard Turner and a Celia George. That's wierd! I have an earlier Celia George but she was born in Pitts. as well, and not early enough to have been wife of Richard Turner. Since the George family History follows only the line of one brother (Robert) and leaves Richard's line and others as slight mention, it is quite possible that a Celia George remained in Caroline and married in 1750 or so. Strange! KarenWood@aol.com ============== Subj: UNSUBSCRIBE Date: 97-07-08 10:32:51 EDT From: JCNi Please take me off the e-mail list of the Burnett-Turner-Ross, etc group. I will continue to check in at http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt Thanks. John Nichols. San Antonio, Texas. jcni@aol.com =================== Subj: Re: Comp 145 & The Real John Turner Date: 97-07-08 13:30:31 EDT From: HarrisSEM Hi! I did respond to N4JED-David about my sources about John Turner , but I guess I should have also made a copy to send to the group. I am also sending more detailed info than what I sent him. I got my preliminary info years ago from a book called " Meshack Turner 111-His Wife Sarah Robey Tucker" by Lucille R. Maddox published 1976. On pages 154-170, she discusses the Shadrack Turner family including his son William Turner who married Jane Hunter. It continues by listing their 8 children including "John Turner, b. 21 September 1779 , married Nancy Burnett 15 October 1804. She was the daughter of John Burnett and was B. 8-15-1787, D.11-19-1871". The book lists 12 of John and Nancy's 13 kids as follows: " William Turner, Judith Turner, Ruth Turner, Parmelia Turner, Nancy Turner, Adelpha Turner, Elkannah Turner, Elizabeth Turner, Stephen Turner, James Turner." After an 11 year break from genealogy, I recently came back and was informed of Nyla's group. When I contacted her, we discovered that Rev. John Turner and Nancy Burnett were our common ancestors. She told me about the 13th child, John Burnett Turner who her line descends from. My husbands line descends from his sister, Ruth Turner , who married John Lackey. Since I was new to the group, I was invited to go back through the compilations which I did and found information there that helped fill in details about Rev. John and Nancy's family. These compilations include 32, 47, 57, 100, and 103. I also found additional information on Chris Gaunt's page where it says "My Geneology Data" . It lists John Burnett and his wife Elizabeth Tate, and their children including Nancy Burnett who married John Turner and lists their 13 children (same as above) as I have them also. I also have a brief mention of Nancy and John in a book called "The Burnett Family with Collateral Branches. Also Historical and Genealogical Notes on Allied Families and Biographical Sketches on Various Eminent Burnetts" By Charles Howard Burnett, published in 1950. The book is full of missing details(!) , but it does give a rough outline and says that "John Burnett b. abt. 1727, d. 1827 m, 1rst abt 1744, Elizabeth___, d. after 1825; m, 2nd Nancy____" It lists children from the first marriage "1, _____ m. 25 Jan. 1798, Elisha Packwood, of Mo., 2.Cornelius, 3. Crawford, of Trigg Co., Ky, m, 29. Dec., 1810, Viny Sharp 4. Jane, m. 22 Nov. 1800, James Hall, Howard Co. Mo. 5. John, m, Judith____, and had dau, Judith, who m. 28 Jan. 1813 Shadrack Turner, 6. Nancy .m, 15 Oct. 1804 John Turner, Henry Co. Va. 7. Elizabeth m. 13 March 1810, Jesse Corn, Patrick Co, Va. and had s. , Samuel Corn , of Franklin Co. Tenn., 8, Mahala. m., 22 July 1822, William Ross, Patrick Co., Va." Also, according to the book, "Pioneer Families of Franklin Co., Virginia " by Marshall Wingfield,published in 1964, on pages 220-224, he talks about Shadrach Turner and his wife, Ann who had 5 sons: Larkin, Jeremiah, William, John, and Josiah. They also had 3 daughters: Elizabeth, Excony, and Mary. William married Jane Hunter, dau. of William Hunter. It is interesting to note that he says " ...a remarkable thing was their longevity. Twelve of his sons and daughters averaging 83 years of life." William died Dec. 11, 1845, aged 93 years. His wife, Jane was 88 when he died. "They had lived in wedlock 72 years. At his death, his progeny numbered 363, many of whom were in the fifth generation." Jane Hunter Turner died "May 20, 1851, aged 92, 11 months, and 13 days." [SHERRY: In one of the compilation I sent last night, I wrote: "If Jane's age at the time of her death was 92 years, 11 months, and 18 days, then she was 12 days short of being 93 years of age at the time of her death. So, if the date of death was in fact 20 May 1851, then it would seem she was born about 2 June 1758. " Based on the info just above, which gives her age as 92 yrs, 11 months, and 13 days, Elizabeth would have been born 7 June 1758? Someone, please check my math. Thanks. Nyla] Also, Nyla's wonderful " In Memorium of My Grandparents "letter written in 1914 by William Turner clearly describes the 13 children of Rev. John Turner and Nancy Burnett. This letter alone should erase any doubt as to who Ruth Turner, Nancy Tate Turner, and Elizabeth Jane Turner 's parents were. He also says that" Rev. John Turner was the third son of Wm. Turner and was born Sept. 21, 1779 and married Nancy, a daughter of John Burnett" I also have marriage records etc. When this information was submitted about the Lackey family, I didn't realize that Ruth Turner's parents were in question. I think that the above should help clarify my understanding that Ruth was indeed the daughter of John Turner and Nancy Burnett. John was the son of William Turner and Jane Hunter and William was the son of Shadrack Turner and Ann Hill. I hope this clarifies the confusion about Rev. John Turner and his daughters, Ruth, Nancy Tate, and Elizabeth Jane. By the way , I have never seen the Turner/ Rangley book. Sherry =================== Subj: Re: Burnett descent continued Date: 97-07-08 15:22:41 EDT From: CarBurCo To: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu CC: NCreed1 Kevin and the rooters on the list: I am a descendant of the SAME BURNETTS as Patricia Ford delineated on comp # 145. HOWEVER, mine diverge after Generation 3. I.E. my RICHARD BURNETT was the brother of her JEREMIAH BURNETT: It goes like this: DESCENT FROM JOHN BURNETT OF ABERDEEN, SCOTLAND continued Gen 4. RICHARD BURNETT (son of Joseph and Clara Gatewood Burnett) b. 1732 Old Rappahannock/Southfarnum Parish, Essex County VA. d. 1796, Dinwiddie County, Va. m. MARY BOUGHAN dau of JOHN BOUGHAN & CARY who m. betw 1760-1765 K&Q Co. Va. 5.TALIAFERRO BURNETT b.abt 1767 Old Rap. or Essex;d. 1822 mid Tenn. m. MARY BAUGH dau of DANIEL BAUGH & wife ____Clark (dau of Bolling Clark.) 6. JOSEPH BOLLING BURNETT 17 Mar 1800 Dinwiddie Co., Va; m. 25 Mar 1819 d 28Jul 1849 Rutherford County, Tenn. M: ANNA BEASLEY (BEEZLEY) dau. of Bernard or Barnet BEEZLEY or BEASLEY 7. WILLIAM WILTSHIRE (BUCK) BURNETT (1829-1873)Dinwiddie Co Va- Rutherford Co, Tn. M. MARGARET J. ROUNTREE (ca 1846-ca1880 Rutherford Co., Tn) ( on Carter's Creek near Columbia, Tn) 8. JOSEPH LEE BURNETT (b.24 Oct. 1872-Jan 1934) Rutherford Co., Tn - Birmingham,Al.M FANNIE ELIZABETH JORDAN dau of Edward Leland Jordan & wife Martha Susan Faris. (14 Nov 1873-5 May 1963)Concord Tn -Birmingham, Al. 9.CHARLES ARCHER BURNETT (25 Dec 1906- 1 Jun 1984) Nashville, Tn - Birmigham, Al M (8 Sep 1934) CAROLINE BEASLEY NORTON (3 Jan 1906- 22 Apr 1985) Montgomery Al - Birmigham, Al dau of ELDRIDGE GREENWOOD NORTON & FANNY PERRY RUDULPH dau of James Murray Rudulph & Caroline White Beasley of Lowndes Co, Al. 10. CAROLINE BURNETT b. Birmingham Al This same line is spelled out, possibly with more details on the homepage ..I do not remember the URL but maybe Nyla will repeat it once again. If anyone who is descended from WILLIAM WILTSHIRE (BUCK) BURNETT or his father, JOSEPH BOLLING BURNETT, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU, please. Caroline CarBurCo@aol.com ===================== Subj: Lazarus Burnett Date: 97-07-08 22:34:31 EDT From: SJVW18B@prodigy.com (MS CORNELIA B HOLLAND) From: Cornelia Holland SJVW18B@prodigy.com Re: Lazarus Burnett son of Robert Burnett b.1776 Lazarus Turner b.c.1700 NC Land grant c.1735 Lazarus Pearce Halifax Co. NC late 1700s. Lazarus Crawford b.c.1740 Johnston Co. NC Robert Raiford, close friend/relative(?) of Lazarus Crawford Robert Raiford Sr. closely tied to Thomas Turner, Isle of Wight and William Pearce early 1700s The previous NCreed1 email listed a Lazarus Burnett in one of the lineages. I believe this name is the key to several unknowns involving the Turner, Pearce, Crawford, and Raiford families from Isle of Wight, VA and in fact may provide the information proving the relationships of these families. They were too close not to be related. If anyone has additional names of individuals from the 1700s/early 1800s named Lazarus, I would appreciate receiving them. ================== The end of this compilation.