Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:29:44 -0400 (EDT) From: NCreed1@aol.com To: NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp 140 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 3 Jul 1997 Hello and Happy Holiday, Greetings to our new members. If you haven't done so already, be sure to check out all our compilations on Chris Gaunt's homepage: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt Looking forward to receiving any information you care to share on your family. Wishing you a Happy 4th of July. Nyla CREED DePauk San Diego CA ================================ Subj: Re: TURNER, Tilman J. & Permelia Cunningham; GA> AL> Date: 97-07-01 22:19:56 EDT From: AUTOPROFIT To: AUTOPROFIT, DKRAINH20A, NCreed1 1860 Fayette County, Alabama Census #393 listed: Joel C. Hisaw age 42 born GA MAHALA R. F age 27 his wife dob circa 1833 md in Calhoun Co AL - 9/22/1856 ???? Nathaniel C. M age 7 their son dob circa 1853 Joel C. M age 4 their son dob circa 1856 William M age 1 their son dob circa 1859 Also enumerated with this family....... PERMELA W. TURNER F age 38 dob circa 1822 MALISSA TURNER F age 15 dob circa 1845 PERMELA E TURNER F age 13 dob circa 1847 Documentation shows that: Mahala Turner md J. C. Hisaw Sep 22 1856 Calhoun Co, Al-- source Marriage CD # 3 Automated Archives. Permelia Cunningham md Tilman J. Turner Dec 24 1837 Floyd Co Ga-- same source. This would have made Permelia 15 at their marriage. I expect Tilman J. Turner was Mahala's brother. In Gwinette Co Ga in 1850 there were 2 Highsaw's, James page 140 and Mary B. page 137. There are 7 Turner families-- any one of which might be the father. --------------------------- HISAW, Joel C. and Mahala TURNER Hisaw moved into the Greenridge community east of Waldron, Scott County, AR, arriving there in the 1860's from Fayette County, AL. Their children were: Joel E. born 1858 in GA, Sarah Elizabeth born 1865 in AR, Scott County, M.A. born 1868 and died age 11, and Benjamin F. born 1875 in TX. They moved back to Scott County after this brief move to Texas. Joel Died in 1887 and is buried in the Birdsview Cemetery. After his death, Mahala remarried Mr. M W Wagoner on 1889. Prior to 1910, she was again widowed. She was found living with her daughter Melissa J. Hisaw Sherrill and her husband Samuel R. Sherrill in the Birdsview settlement. It is not known where Mahala is buried. Mahala's parents were supposedly born in GA according to the 1880 Scott Co., AR Census. This family moved to Scott Co., AR prior to the 1870 census and Permela Turner and her daughters were not enumerated with them there. They may have stayed in Fayette County, or moved in with other relatives or she may have remarried. Due to the TURNER family living with them we assume that it is Mahala's sister or sister-in-law or some relation. This is an assumption only. No proof as of yet! Joel C. Hisaw and Mahala TURNER Hisaw's daughter Sarah Elizabeth HISAW married Thomas L. RAINWATER circa 1882. I have bible records that document locations and births in Scott County, AR, but need any formal birth records, and marriage records on the union of Sarah Elizabeth Hisaw to Thomas L. Rainwaters circa 1882. They had their first child in 1882 in Waldron, Scott County, AR. Assume they married in 1882 or near this time. Any help appreciated! Debbie Rainwater Anderson autoprofit@aol.com or dkrainh20@aol.com ======================= Subj: Re: VIA Date: 07/03/97 To: DiamondEnt In a message dated 97-07-02 10:54:09 EDT, you write: << Every time I try to run a search on the surname VIA I get a "to common word" message. Any suggestions on how to research this name? >> I know what you mean. I don't have any suggestions. Refresh my memory. Have we discussed our VIA ancestors? I come through Naomi Angeline VIA who married John Burnett Turner, Sr. Naomi was the daughter of William VIA according to my information. According to William Turner, son of Naomi and John, his mother's people were Dutch. Whatever that means. I have a copy of a picture of Naomi. Nyla ========================== Subj: Re: VIA Date: 97-07-03 10:33:45 EDT From: DiamondEnt Dear Nyla, I don't know if I have sent my line to you. James S. VIA Leslie Guy VIA b.July 11,1845 in Ky John Smith VIA b.Sep.30,1874 d.Jan 1,1899 b.Oct 18,1907 Graves,Ky Hickman/Graves Co,KY Hickman Co,KY d.Feb 9, 1971 " " d. Nov22, 1932 Graves Ky M. 1898 Mary E. MYERS b. Nov29 1849 in Ky d. jan 10, 1923 Hickman co, Ky John Jordan MORGAN b. 1854 in Ky m.1873 Rose V. MORGAN b.oct 7, 1877 in Graves CO., Ky d.Dec.12 1935 in Graves, ky Louvina N. BENNETT b.April 12, 1853 in Ky. This doesn't work out exactly right on here, maybe you can read it. Pretend the pedigree lines are there. I am stuck on James in 1845, can't find his parents. He is listed on a census as living with Overton VIDE and his wife Martha in the 1850 Hickmam Co, Ky Census. His siblings are: T?.A. 11, Robert H/F 8, L.E. 6, Samuel E. 2, all born in Ky. Overton is listed as born in Vir., Martha as Tenn. The Via Cemetery where James and Mary are also has the surnames Myers, Hill ,Tarver, Murphy, Hopkins, Vaughn, Hudley and McNeeley in it. Kathy ========================== KATHY, Thank you so much for sharing the VIA information. I understand your chart. Nyla ========================== Subj: ROSS Date: 97-07-01 23:47:30 EDT From: Kyrajo2526 To: NCreed1 Hello Nyla and everyone again! I'm also attaching my ROSS file again for any newer members to the list. Please let me know personally if you may have a connection! **************** Descendants of William Ross 1 William Ross b: 1758 in Edinborough, Scotland d: June 05, 1839 in probably Ripley County, IN . +Nancy Sparks b: December 25, 1765 m: 1785 in VA d: July 19, 1821 in Ripley County, IN ........ 2 William Ross, Jr. b: November 13, 1785 in VA d: 1839 ............ +Eliza A. Zackery b: March 18, 1793 m: November 25, 1822 in Boone County, KY d: November 24, 1852 ........ 2 Robert Ross b: July 06, 1787 in VA d: July 30, 1874 in Decatur County, IN ............ +Elender Wilson b: 1795 in PA m: April 17, 1811 d: Aft 1870 in Decatur County, IN ................... 3 Armstrong Ross b: 1813 in IN d: Unknown ................... 3 Wilson Ross b: 1815 in near New Point, Decatur County, IN d: January 1892 in near New Point, Decatur County, IN ....................... +Elizabeth Moody b: 1815 in OH m: April 25, 1839 in probably Decatur County, IN d: 1845 in Decatur County, IN ................... *2nd Wife of Wilson Ross: ....................... +Sevillah Shouse b: January 17, 1829 in Carroll County, OH m: October 25, 1848 in Decatur County, IN d: September 16, 1883 in Decatur County, IN ................... 3 Rebecca Ann Ross b: 1819 in IN d: Unknown ....................... +James Moody b: 1812 in OH m: January 19, 1839 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ................... 3 Margaret Ross b: November 1821 in Decatur County, IN d: 1906 in Decatur County, IN ....................... +John Moody b: 1822 in OH m: February 27, 1845 in Decatur County, IN d: 1862 in Decatur County, IN ................... 3 John Ross b: 1824 in IN d: Bef 1870 in probably Decatur County, IN ....................... +Mary Ann Shouse b: 1826 in Carroll County, OH m: November 05, 1849 in Decatur County, IN d: Aft 1880 in Decatur County, IN .............................. 4 Lettie Ross b: 1850 in Decatur County, IN d: Bef 1860 in Decatur County, IN .............................. 4 Lysia Ross b: 1851 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown .................................. +William R. Wise b: Abt 1850 m: October 05, 1871 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 George Wise b: Abt 1872 d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Grace Wise b: Abt 1874 d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Sylvia Wise b: Abt 1876 d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Maude Wise b: Abt 1878 d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Myrtle Wise b: Abt 1880 d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Cortes Wise b: Abt 1882 d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Clarence Wise b: Abt 1884 d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Emma Wise b: Abt 1886 d: Unknown .............................. 4 Benjamin Ross b: 1852 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown .................................. +Sarah Updike b: 1854 m: Abt 1875 in probably Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Elizabeth Ross b: 1876 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Mary Ross b: 1877 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Leona Ross b: 1878 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown .............................. 4 Albert Ross b: 1856 in Decatur County, IN d: January 08, 1937 .................................. +Marietta Colson b: 1865 in Decatur County, IN m: February 07, 1886 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Maude Gaye Ross b: 1887 in Decatur County, IN d: 1907 ......................................... 5 Elza Harrison Ross b: 1889 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Mary Frances Ross b: 1892 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Alice Pearl Ross b: 1894 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Albert Ross b: 1896 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 William Elmer Ross b: 1898 in Decatur County, IN d: 1898 in Decatur County, IN ......................................... 5 Dysia May Ross b: 1900 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Hershel Raymond Ross b: 1903 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown .............................. 4 Franklin P. Ross b: May 06, 1858 in Decatur County, IN d: March 01, 1931 in Decatur County, IN .................................. +Amelia Catherine Land b: February 09, 1861 m: July 27, 1880 in Decatur County, IN d: March 26, 1940 in Decatur County, IN ......................................... 5 Ida Gay Ross b: Abt 1882 in Decatur County, IN d: Abt 1882 in Decatur County, IN (died at 6 months) ......................................... 5 Ina Gay Ross b: Abt 1882 in Decatur County, IN d: Abt 1882 in Decatur County, IN (died at 6 months) ......................................... 5 William Chalmer Ross b: February 14, 1885 in Decatur County, IN d: November 17, 1950 in Decatur County, IN ............................................. +Nora Ethel Powers b: April 08, 1890 in New Pennington, Decatur County, IN m: 1908 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown ......................................... *2nd Wife of William Chalmer Ross: ............................................. +Sylvia G. York b: November 11, 1893 in Franklin County, IN m: Abt 1916 in probably Decatur County, IN d: February 22, 1970 in Decatur County, IN ......................................... 5 Franklin Clyde Ross b: June 20, 1892 in New Point, Decatur County, IN d: October 10, 1963 in Columbus, Bartholomew County, IN ............................................. +Julia Meidrum b: July 25, 1895 in Indianapolis, Marion County, IN m: June 1920 d: April 1928 in Indianapolis, Marion County, IN ......................................... *2nd Wife of Franklin Clyde Ross: ............................................. +Hatti Wilouby b: Abt 1895 m: 1929 d: 1959 .............................. 4 Lafayette Ross b: 1860 in Decatur County, IN d: Unknown .............................. 4 Robert Ross, Sr. b: February 25, 1862 in IN d: Unknown .................................. +Mary Malissa Van Osdol b: August 10, 1867 in near Greensburg, Decatur County, IN m: December 07, 1884 in Decatur County, IN d: February 19, 1945 in Indianapolis, Marion County, IN ......................................... 5 Elva Ross b: January 22, 1886 in IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Wilbur Ross b: March 15, 1888 in IN d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Robert "Bert" Ross, Jr. b: December 29, 1890 in IN d: Unknown ............................................. +Hazel Gadsey b: Abt 1890 d: Unknown ......................................... 5 Hazel (Isabel) Ross b: September 01, 1893 in Indianapolis, Marion County, IN d: February 06, 1962 in Noblesville, Hamilton County, IN ............................................. +Norris B. Sullivan b: June 10, 1894 m: Abt 1913 d: January 18, 1917 in Indianapolis, Marion County, IN ......................................... *2nd Husband of Hazel (Isabel) Ross: ............................................. +Henry Clayton "Barney" Burnett b: December 10, 1891 in Milton, Trimble County, KY m: September 25, 1919 in Indianapolis, Marion County, IN d: September 11, 1967 in Noblesville, Hamilton County, IN ......................................... 5 Elma Ross b: December 23, 1895 in IN d: Unknown ............................................. +Jack Karwicke b: Abt 1895 d: Unknown ................... 3 Vesta Ross b: 1826 in IN d: Unknown in probably Decatur County, IN ....................... +Joseph Moody, Jr. b: 1826 in OH m: October 14, 1847 in Decatur County, IN d: 1853 in probably Decatur County, IN ........ 2 Effie Ross b: June 22, 1789 d: Unknown ............ +Nathan Ricketts b: Abt 1785 d: Unknown ........ 2 John Ross b: January 02, 1793 in KY d: September 12, 1866 ............ +Jamima Jane Bayne b: Abt 1800 m: September 24, 1826 d: Unknown ........ 2 Daniel Ross b: April 15, 1795 in IN d: Unknown ............ +Jane Hodges b: Abt 1800 m: April 07, 1831 in Ripley County, IN d: Unknown ........ 2 Nancy Ross b: April 05, 1797 in Switzerland County, IN d: June 29, 1876 in Mt. Vernon, IA ............ +Abner Lacock b: Abt 1795 m: November 08, 1820 in Vevay, Switzerland County, IN d: Unknown ........ 2 David Ross b: February 19, 1799 in KY d: March 14, 1864 ............ +Susanna Lacock Boatman b: Abt 1800 m: January 29, 1820 d: Unknown ........ 2 James Ross b: February 13, 1803 d: June 13, 1895 ............ +Mary Elizabeth Pete b: Abt 1805 m: May 02, 1830 d: Unknown ........ 2 Lucretia Ross b: May 11, 1806 d: Unknown ............ +James Criswell b: Abt 1800 m: June 24, 1823 in Ripley County, IN d: Unknown *********************** Thanks very much! Kyra Jo Burnett Hatke kyrajo2526@aol.com ============================= KYRA JO: I am also a Sparks descendant. Nyla ============================= Subj: Re: Comp 138 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-07-02 16:07:36 EDT From: Pat-Chesney@easy.com (Terri Chesney) To: NCreed1@aol.com To Mrp35 care of Nyla's Turner newsletter, the name Oscar Stanley Dunn -shows me that you are descendant of a part of group of early anabaptist folks that migrated from Germany to PA and Va in 1700's. The Stanley family even has town named after them in VA -lived in the Shenandoah Valley area of VA. My Ausmus ancestors intermarried with Dunn family and Stanley people. These early anabaptist folks fled from Germany some to Holland before coming to America. They went to Pa first as it was more friendly to Germans. In fact the Germans kind of took over there so many came. German was spoken more then English there for many years made the English speaking folks pretty unhappy. My ancestors went to VA real soon after living in Pa and settled in the Shenandoah Valley, VA. After ten or so years one of the sons left to pioneer in what later was Tn. It was called NC at the time-Washington Co. He of course went with friends and relatives. Price, Boring families for one. After living there for ten years my ancestors moved further west to Claiborne Co. Tn and settled in the Speedwell area. There they intermarried with the DUnn family. Other families Sowder, Davis, Ellison, Sharp, Snuffer lots more can't remember. There is a circle of Ausmus and Stanley researchers that write each other occasionally. I could find who to write if you are interested. These folks of mine were Brethren that became Baptist over here in America. Hope this helps. Terri Chesney ============================ Subj: Re: Lackey family Date: 97-07-02 19:50:27 EDT From: HarrisSEM Nyla-I'm Back! My husband thought that we wouldn't be able to send you files that you would be able to read, so he suggested that I cut and paste the info and send it by e-mail. Hope this is ok. Sherry Descendants of George Lackey 1 Lackey, George b: Abt 1775 in Virginia d: 1840-1850 in Patrick Co. Virginia ? .. +Sharp, Lucy b: Abt 1778 in Patrick Co. Virginia m: October 9, 1795 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: 1851-1860 in Patrick Co. Virginia ........ 2 Lackey, John b: December 25, 1800 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: June 1885 in Patrick Co. Virginia ............. +Turner, Ruth b: April 5, 1812 in Henry Co. Virginia m: February 16, 1830 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: March 14, 1844 in Patrick Co. Virginia ................... 3 Lackey, William Crawford b: April 1831 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: 1901-1909 in Patrick Co. Virginia ? ........................ +Sneed, Martha J. b: June 1850 in Patrick Co. Virginia m: May 22, 1867 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: June 23, 1927 in Patrick Co. Virginia .............................. 4 Lackey, Wiliam E. b: Abt 1869 .............................. 4 Lackey, Samuel J. b: April 1870 .............................. 4 Lackey, George W. b: March 16, 1872 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: November 13, 1962 .................................. +Turner, Elizabeth Ruth "Betty Ruth" b: October 1871 in Franklin Co. Virginia m: February 24, 1889 in Franklin Co. Virginia d: April 9, 1918 ......................................... 5 Lackey, Sarah Lou b: October 27, 1897 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: September 8, 1928 in Patrick Co. Virginia ............................................. +Rakes, Shade Lee b: December 15, 1899 in Franklin Co. Virginia m: January 28, 1920 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: December 20, 1987 in Bassett, Virginia .................................................... 6 Rakes, Eva Ruth b: May 20, 1922 in Bassett, Henry Co. Va ........................................................ +Harris, Henry "Garfield" b: February 2, 1917 in Danville, Pittsylvania Co.Virginia m: February 3, 1943 in York, York Co. South Carolina d: August 23, 1977 in Danville, Pittsylvania Co.Virginia .................................................... 6 Rakes, Verna Lou b: August 2, 1926 ........................................................ +Ramsey, Raymond ......................................... 5 Lackey, Mollie R. b: June 1891 ......................................... 5 Lackey, Elkanah W. "Caine" b: July 1893 in Patrick Co. Virginia ............................................. +Rakes, Linda Annie b: May 15, 1895 in Franklin Co. Virginia d: October 29, 1983 in Virginia ......................................... 5 Lackey, Malinda Bulah b: December 1895 ......................................... 5 Lackey, Emma J. b: October 1899 ......................................... 5 Lackey, Ellen ? M. b: Abt 1901 .............................. *2nd Wife of George W. Lackey: .................................. +Jamerson, Lizzie m: Aft 1918 .............................. 4 Lackey, Judith ? R. b: Abt 1874 .............................. 4 Lackey, John J. b: Abt 1878 .............................. 4 Lackey, Martha J. b: Abt 1879 .............................. 4 Lackey, Henry C. b: April 1883 .............................. 4 Lackey, Carroll M. b: April 1885 .............................. 4 Lackey, Matt F. b: March 1888 .............................. 4 Lackey, Charlie W. b: May 1891 ................... 3 Lackey, Elizabeth Mariah ? b: Abt 1833 in Patrick Co. Virginia ................... 3 Lackey, Letitia b: Abt 1835 in Patrick Co. Virginia ........................ +Thomasson, Tazewell A. m: 1856 ( have also seen him listed as Thomas, Tazewell) ................... 3 Lackey, George b: Abt 1838 in Patrick Co. Virginia d: 1857 in Floyd Co, Virginia ................... 3 Lackey, John Elkana ? b: Abt 1841 in Patrick Co. Virginia ................... 3 Lackey, James Marshall b: Abt 1843 in Patrick Co. Virginia ........ 2 Lackey, George William b: Abt 1800 in Virginia ............. +Turner, Martha b: July 17, 1812 in Franklin Co. Virginia m: September 17, 1835 in Franklin Co. Virginia d: May 23, 1870 ................... 3 Lackey, Mary Ann b: January 17, 1836 d: February 19, 1888 ................... 3 Lackey, John b: May 15, 1838 in Franklin Co. Virginia d: November 25, 1864 in Hanover Co. Virginia ........................ +Martha___ ................... 3 Lackey, Josiah b: December 19, 1840 in Franklin Co. Virginia d: November 25, 1864 in Richmond, Virginia ................... 3 Lackey, George b: April 3, 1841 in Franklin Co. Virginia d: July 3, 1863 in Gettsyburg, Pennsylavania ................... 3 Lackey, James b: December 8, 1843 in Franklin Co. Virginia d: October 12, 1862 in Lynchburg, Virginia ........ 2 Lackey, Samuel J. b: Abt 1810 in Viginia ............. +Corn, Drucilla m: September 7, 1835 in Patrick Co. Virginia ................... 3 Lackey, James M. b: 1840 in Stokes County, North Carolina ........................ +Trent, Mary E. b: 1850 in Patrick Co. Virginia m: December 7, 1871 in Patrick Co. Virginia ................... 3 Lackey, George Jackson b: 1855 in Stokes County, North Carolina ........................ +Farris, Sarah E. b: 1854 in Stokes County, North Carolina m: January 27, 1876 in Stokes County, North Carolina ................... 3 Lackey, Robert L. b: 1857 in Stokes County, North Carolina ........................ +Burge, Mattie E. b: 1874 in Patrick Co. Virginia m: July 6, 1899 in Patrick Co. Virginia ........ 2 Lackey, Frances b: Abt 1817 + Paul C. Adams on January 7, 1876 in Patrick Co. Virginia ================================= Subj: ALEXANDER TURNER Date: 97-07-02 20:57:34 EDT From: JDuel Hello: I am researching ALEXANDER TURNER married to JANE move from VA in 1790 to Reedsville, Preston County, WV. Children: William Harris Eleanor Elizabeth Arthur All the children were born in VA and Arthur moved on to Ritchic County, WV and was a wagonmaker first married to Ossie Colgate and then to Nancy Fox. They were both buried in Richie County. Do you have any info on these people please advise were I can look or find any info out please. thank you Jeff Duelley Jdul@aol.com ==================================== The end of this compilation.