Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 00:26:30 -0400 (EDT) From: NCreed1@aol.com To: NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp 138 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Greetings to Everyone, A big welcome to our new members. Be sure to check out all our compilations on Chris Gaunt's homepage: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt Thanks to Kevin, all the files have been "zipped" for easy downloading. And a big thank you to Everyone for their generosity in sharing family information. Nyla CREED DePauk San Diego ======================================= Subj: Family Tree Program Date: 97-06-29 22:09:29 EDT From: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Kevin K. Stephenson) Nyla- Thought I would tell you that I also use Family Tree Maker, and I just updated to version 4.0. It is a great program, and the new upgrade is much improved!!! Among other things, you can now store SOURCE DATA, it's compatible with GEDCOM version 5.0, and it has a provision in its 'on-line' option to publish your tree to a website at Family Tree Maker. Others can access the page without having any genealogy software! Anyone with version 3.4 or higher can use the FTM bulletin boards, and there is a NETSEARCH feature which looks for surnames out on the net in version 4!!! I'm probably biased, but I highly recommend this program. For those purchasing it in the store, I don't think you can even get version 3.4 yet. To get the latest version, order it online from Broderbund Software at: http://www.familytreemaker.com Also: for groups who are seriously into genealogical research, Broderbund is sponsoring a grant program and will award research grant money to someone pursuing something which will add to the knowledge of the genealogical community. I put in a request for a grant for the Rudd research group that I belong to, in order to fund a search for the name of the first 'American' Rudd's wife. Lt. Jonathan Rudd, one of the first settlers of Saybrook Colony, in what is now Connecticut, was married in the winter of 1646-7 at a place later named "Bride Brook" in honor of his bride, but no one knows who she was. The ceremony was performed by Governor John Winthrop, the younger, first Gov. of Connecticut. My grandfather, Ralph Burnett, married Ethel Rudd, who was the one who got me interested in this stuff in the first place, so I thought I might try to help find out this bit of fairly important historical trivia. Nyla-You and I and Ricky Burnett and Sharon Crawford have discussed the different Burnett lines and you know that I'm related to the George Burnet line, which includes Peter Hardeman Burnett, first governor of California, and James Cunningham Burnett. We know that the John Sr. line and the George Burnet line both came from Scotland. Does anyone know exactly how these two lines tie together? We're talking about a pair of brothers, probably, but at what generation? Does anyone know? I'd like to know exactly how I'm related to the rest o' yas!!!! Kevin K. Stephenson 1114 Mississippi Street, #4 Lawrence, KS 66044-3188 (913)865-1586 e-mail: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu homepage: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html ============================================= Subj: Re: Comp 137 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-06-29 22:22:19 EDT From: Bervi Nyla, Program used: Gene 4.1.1 Shareware $15.00 (MAC Format) I run it off the CD it came on (Software of the Month Club) so it doesn't take up HD space, only the file I generated (over 2400 names and growing). I've been using it for about 5 months, since I started my Tree and have been happy with it so far. I like the grids and relation charts it creates. I can save them as PICT files and email them out, tho the MAC/PC thing is sometimes tricky, that is not the software's fault It accepts GEDCOM files from any source AOK, tho if I send a GEDCOM to a PC user it requires translation work that is probably a pain in the patoot (they shoulda bought a MAC). It puts everything in index card type format which is neat and easy to read. I might wish it gave me all the info on every name in an Ancestor Grid, but it only gives the principal name b. and d. dates/places--not for the spouse. On the other hand that is economical for printing and screen-size purposes. If I had one piece of paper large enuf (printer to match) I could print out every one of my ancestors at once. Limits are not a bad thing after all;> I've thought about getting Family Tree Maker, but if my $15.00 toy is ok, why spend $80-90? Maybe in the future, not just yet... Other Matters: Where is that BARNARD/BURNETT from/dates? Are folks here aware of the PACE Network site for the Pace Family? There is also a Clan Ramsey web page. They make no distinction between RAMSAY/RAMSEY. Til next time... Peter Ramsey ===================================== Peter: I believe Isham Barnard was from Patrick Co VA. -- Nyla BTW, I just learned about a RAMSAY REUNION at Summersville, WV. If anyone is interested in the information that I have, let me know. ======================================= FOLKS: I checked to see how many responses I got to my message board posts on AOL's genealogy forum. Here they are: = = = = = = = = = = = = = Subj: Re: TURNERS from VA and elsewhere Date: 27 May 1997 19:47:45 EDT From: SDunham153 Nyla, I'm also from the Turners from Va., Shadrack Turner, father of Jeremiah, father of Larkin, father Wm Carr, father of Lewis Ross, father of Sally who was my G-mother. Our annual Turner Reunion is in Thompkinsville, Ky. Sun June 1st. Most of my grandmother's generation are gone now. As you probably know Jeremiah Turner married Rachel Ross, and I see you also include the Ross name in your mailing list. Thanks, Sue ========================= Subj: Re: TURNERS from VA and elsewhere Date: 29 May 1997 23:27:06 EDT From: TCline1582 Have a Sterling Hart Turner from either Va or Nc. Ever hear of Him Thanks Tracey Saunders Cline Hampton Va. =============== Subj: Re: TURNERS from VA and elsewhere Date: 03 Jun 1997 23:53:12 EDT From: VFTurner2 My Turner's were from Bedford Co. The line starts with Richard (Caroline co.), James, Elijah, Meador, Albert (all born in Bedford Co.), Asher (bn in Clinton Co., OH). ====================== Subj: Re: TURNERS from VA and elsewhere Date: 07 Jun 1997 01:44:44 EDT From: Mrp35 Does anyone show a Mary Emma Turner who married Oscar Stanley Dunn. Don't know when they married, but they had several children; Mattie Louise, J.L., Margie, Mary, Myrtle, Bessie and James. Mattie was born in Roanoke, Al/Randolph Co. March 12, 1914. Original birth certificate showed name as Dwra (or something like that). I think the family spent several years in the LaGrange, GA/Troup Co. area. Thanks, Marcie ===================== Subj: Re: TURNERS from VA and elsewhere Date: 27 Jun 1997 22:11:31 EDT From: BIZETTA My grandparents were Turner's and I also live in Troup Co. LaGrange, Ga. I am not from LaGrange, but I have lived here for 16 years. If there is any research I can do for you here would be more then happy to do so. My grandfather was John B. Turner, he married my grandmother Jewell Izetta Green. Do you have these names in your files? Bizetta ====================== Subj: Re: TURNERS from VA and elsewhere Date: 14 Jun 1997 11:50:38 EDT From: RTact Does your Turner line have a Stephen Born around 1860 who married an Emily ? Five children: Albert George Terry Ramie Lizzie and Nancy Susan. Cynthia Rtact@AOL.COM ====================== Subj: Re: TURNERS from VA and elsewhere Date: 29 Jun 1997 19:25:47 EDT From: FAT HARP I have an Harriet Amanda Buzzard Turner b7-21-1839 d 9-19-1841. She only lived 2 years. Could she be who your Amanda was named after? Her father was Benjamin Turner b.Maryland 4-26-1792 d.9-22-1841.He married a Racheal King .Their Children were Pamela B11-23-1818 d 3-27-1887, Jane King b.10-4-1820 d.3-21-1902, Mary Buzzard b- 7-11-1823 d1-9-1905, Andrew Buzzard, b 6-4-1825 d8-12-1899, Susan C. Buzzard b10-4-1827 d?,Elizabeth T Buzzard b 11-5-1830 d 8-26-1906, John King Buzzard b 4-10-1833 d 10-11-1864, Thomas Washington Buzzard b3-22-1836 d 7-17-1840 and finally Harriet Amanda Buzzard Turner 7-21-1839 d 9-19-1841. All these children were Turner's. It is evident that the Buzzard name must be a family name from the King side or the Turner side. I don't know where the Buzzard's fit in. These records came from a family bibles in Bettsville Oh. Much Turner and King names. Any info would be appreciated as I can't get past Benjamin Turner. Benjamin served with Major Croghan and Gen Harrison in the war of 1812. MILLS ======================== Subj: Re: TURNERS from VA and elsewhere Date: 28 Jun 1997 20:15:37 EDT From: MMay722215 Where in GA are your Turners from? My gggrandmother was Mary Jane Turner who married Thomas Flynn (born in Ireland). Mary Jane born SC @1827. I believe her father to be Aaron Turner. they were in Henry Co, GA by 1843, as I have a copy of the deed where Thomas Flynn bought land from Aaron Turner, Sr. My line follows the Flynns. Thanks, MEM ===================================== Subj: Re: BURNETTE, Pernelia/ VA Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:30:10 EST From: Bryanbrad I am searching for info on BURNETTE from NY. I have Cathering Mary BURNETTE b. approx 1865 m. William DEWAR. Lived Upstate. Thx Karen Pls email to Bryanbrad.aol I dont read message board often Thx ============================== Subj: Re: BURNETTE, Pernelia/ VA Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 02:21:29 EST From: JeriGarner Hi! What mailing list are you referring to and How do I find it? Thanks Jeri Garner 1. Thomas BURNETT -------------------------------------------------- Birth Date: 1755 Birth Place: Virgina? Of Scottish Decent Notes: Killed by a Troy, about the time of the battle of King's Mt., in which his brother Joseph was killed. Spouse: Eliazbeth LITTLEBERRY Children: Swan Pritchett 1.1 Swan Pritchett BURNETT -------------------------------------------------- Birth Date: 24 Oct 1779 Birth Place: VA? Death Date: 2 Dec 1804 Notes: This couple lived near Asheville before Del Rio, TN had 14 kids?. Native to VA? Spouse: Frances "Fanny" BELL Birth Date: 25 Nov 1782 Death Date: 24 Jul 1858 Spouse Notes: from Burke Co. NC Marriage Date: 19 Sep 1801 Children: Jane Adelyn James Jefferson J. Narcissa Jesse M. L. 1.1.1 Jane Adelyn BURNETT -------------------------------------------------- Birth Date: 14 Feb 1820 Death Date: 7 Mar 1882 Spouse: John Jehu STOKELY 2 Birth Date: 14 Mar 1814 Death Date: 25 Feb 1885 Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1836 Children: Mary Frances Narcissa Caroline Jane Adaline Susan Eleanor John Burnett Louisa Elizabeth 1.1.2 James BURNETT -------------------------------------------------- Spouse: Caroline HUFF 1.1.3a Jefferson J. BURNETT* -------------------------------------------------- Birth Date: 7 Feb 1824 Birth Place: NC Near Asheville. Education: Holston College, Jefferson Co. TN Spouse: Ester LEA Other spouses: Mary E. HUFF 1.1.3b Jefferson J. BURNETT* -------------------------------------------------- (See above) Spouse: Mary E. HUFF Death Date: 1836 Marriage Date: 10 Feb 1853 Children: Jehu J. Stephen F. Jesse A. Frances E. C. Sissie Elizabeth J. Cynthia A. Other spouses: Ester LEA 1.1.4 Narcissa BURNETT -------------------------------------------------- Death Date: 1880 Spouse: Andrew C. HUFF Capt. Birth Date: 1819 Birth Place: Cocke Co. TN Spouse Notes: In 1863, Capt. Huff commanded Company B, second NC Infantry, Federal, and was mustered out in March 1865. He remarried after wife died to a Mrs. Shackelford. He served as justice of 2 terms, once by electon and once appointed by Gov. Brownlow. A strong Union man. Republican 12 Children with Narcissa Burnett Spouse Religion: Missionary Baptist Church 1.1.5a Jesse M. L. BURNETT* -------------------------------------------------- Birth Date: 14 Sep 1829 Birth Place: Buncombe Co, NC Near Ashville Spouse: HS CODY Other spouses: Eva (Evelyn?) Ann HUFF 1.1.5b Jesse M. L. BURNETT* -------------------------------------------------- (See above) Spouse: Eva (Evelyn?) Ann HUFF Marriage Date: 31 Aug 1854 Other spouses: HS CODY Thanks in advance for helping to find this family. Jeri Garner (JeriGarner@AOL.com) Researching: Tipton, Reno, Reneau, Tompkins, Jenkins, Cope, Buck, Buchanan, Morris and others. ============================== Subj: Tate Date: 97-06-30 18:25:25 EDT From: jerrylou@cyberhighway.net (Jerry Lou Patterson) To: NCreed1@aol.com (nyla creed) CC: cyberhighway.net@mrin74.mail.aol.com Nyla The URL for Tate is:www.geocities.com/heartland/8110/tagnetywork.htm Jerry Lou ========================== Subj: Re: Comp 137 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-06-30 22:37:21 EDT From: MAStalling I upgraded to version 3.01 of Family Tree Maker last year on CD ROM. If there's a 4.0 version I'll upgrade again. I've really enjoyed the FTM. Most helpful are the CD ROM's of their World Family Trees that you can purchase that are compilations of everyone who's bought the program and researched their ancestors. They run it off on a disk and send it in. FTM puts everyone's data on CD's and offers them for sale. I've found a lot of "missing" info on parts of the family where I was really stumped from other enthusiasts and heartily recommend it to everyone. It's really user friendly and there is lots of space and different areas you can put information. I can even scan photographs of my ancestors into the FTM "scrapbook". I'd like to get in touch with Johnny Turner from your last contact and see what he has. I'm stuck on my Turner line from down here in Texas! Michelle =============================== Subj: Genealogy Programs Date: 97-06-30 06:33:38 EDT From: JaniceBT Nyla, I have used the following genealogy programs: Brothers Keeper for windows 95 Can download from the web and try before purchasing and as far as I know you must purchase from the author--I have never seen it commercially advertised. Inexpensive but I don't remember the cost--less than $40.00 I think Easy to use. The person creating it is a genealogist and knows what is needed. Best feature--printed charts--anything you can imagine in ancestor/report/descendant charts. I don't use it as my primary program but keep it for producing printouts. My principle program is Family TreeMaker for Windows from Broderbund--Banner Blue Division. Can download trial version. Delux is about $60. Easy to install and use--has direct online link through your server--is linked to use of world Family Tree resources--which can get expensive if you buy the CD's as fast as they publish them--up to nine now. You can submit your tree to them to be published as one of their World Family Trees. I personally have a bit of trouble about letting someone else make money from my work--I don't mind "giving". It has been very useful to me, however--I have found connections among other family trees in their collection. Family Origins from Parsons Technology inexpensive--abt $29 good charts easy to use I find that Gedcom's produced by this program are sometimes not totally compatable with other programs--that may just be me--but I bought it to read a Gedcom someone sent me created by Family Origins that I could not make work on either of the other two. If one were not interested in the resources of Family Treemaker online--Brothers Keeper is an excellent tool. ============================ Subj: Tate family Date: 97-06-30 09:18:38 EDT From: HarrisSEM The only thing I have on Elizabeth TATE who married John BURNETT is that her father was John Tate. I got this info from Comp.#42. Glad you are enjoying San Diego! Sherry ============================== Subj: Genealogy Program Date: 97-06-30 15:30:58 EDT From: ekirkman@swva.net (Eunice B. Kirkman) To: NCreed1@aol.com You can't beat Brothers Keeper, the one software recommended by genealogists above all others, and written in several different languages. Written by a genealogist for genealogists as well as the novice. You can't go wrong, try before you buy and it isn't limited or crippled in any way. The shareware version is full featured, yet the registered version contains more. The cost to register is $49, one free upgrade, further upgrades at very low cost, about $10. No, I have no monetery interest, I'm just a loyal user. Net Sites for Brother's Keeper For the Windows version: http://web.wingsbbs.com/brotherskeepr/ http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Brothers_Keeper/ For the new release of the DOS version: http://www.coastnet/simtel.com/msdos/genealogy.html When the page loads, use the search engine and ask for bk5. Download all five files. http:home.sprynet.com/sprynet/steed/ I have used several genealogy programs over the years, some of them quite good, but Brother's Keeper has been the easiest and most productive of them all. It has features not found in some of the others. You can set up hotkeys that save hours of typing, print your material out in story book style using the Register report , and in the Windows version you can choose your favorite word processor to edit and write text files. You can print index cards, group sheets, pedigree charts, ascendancy charts, etc. You can import photos, import and export ged-com files, do anything that other programs do that cost much more. There is a discussion list devoted to the program and monitored by John Steed, the writer of the program, who answers the 'hard' questions posted to the list. To join: Send a message to BK5-L-Request@emcee.com with the command subscribe in the SUBJECT field. No signature, nothing in the MESSAGE area. To unsubscribe, send a message to with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the header and nothing in the body. To send a message to the list: bk5-l@genealogy.org The current E-Mail address of John Steed who has developed this software is <<75745.1371@compuserve.com>> Eunice B. Kirkman ekirkman@swva.net /\^/\^/\%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%/\^/\^/\ The Blue Ridge Mountains of SouthWestern Virginia ========================================= Subj: Tate Date: 97-06-30 18:25:25 EDT From: jerrylou@cyberhighway.net (Jerry Lou Patterson) CC: cyberhighway.net@mrin74.mail.aol.com Nyla The URL for Tate is:www.geocities.com/heartland/8110/tagnetywork.htm Jerry Lou ================================ Subj: Barnard family Date: 97-06-30 19:45:13 EDT From: N4JED To: gballard@jps.net CC: NCreed1 Ginger, Don't give up on us yet. I do have 2 Barnards in my computer listing shown below. I believe this info came from Nettie Clifton here on the list. Possibly she has additional info. Is this one of your ancestors? I can go back up the Turner line but not any further down from here. David Descendants of J. BARNARD First Generation 1. J. BARNARD. He had the following children: + 2 F i. Jathina A. BARNARD was born about 1860. Second Generation 2. Jathina A. BARNARD was born about 1860 in Patrick Co., VA. Jathina married (1) John F. TURNER, son of Samuel F. TURNER and Rachel WOOD on 20 Sep 1877 in Patrick Co., VA. John was born 1857 in Franklin Co., VA. They had the following children: 3 M i. Samuel Peter TURNER was born in VA. 4 M ii. James Matterson TURNER. 5 F iii. Hattie E. TURNER. 6 F iv. Annie L. TURNER was born in VA. 7 M v. John T. TURNER was born in VA. 8 F vi. Minnie O. TURNER was born in VA. 9 F vii. Fannie TURNER was born in VA. 10 F viii. Rachel E. TURNER was born in VA. 11 M ix. Henry Washington TURNER. ... END ... ================================== Subj: [Fwd: Elizabeth Tate] Date: 97-06-30 22:48:32 EDT From: tlmart@cascade.net (Tony and Linda Martinson) To: ncreed1@aol.com Found this Elizabeth Tatte b. in Augusta, Va Parents Robert Tate and Mary McClung write to Mrs. McCawley 13 Beach Park Blvd. Fosster City, Ca. 94401 no hus. listed Elizabeth Tate b. 1800 Father John Tate Mother Sally or Sarah Poindexter No Hus. Listed write to Roy D. Felkkner 819 Strange Dr. Richmond, TX 77469 Elizabeth Tate B 176 Mecklenburg, Va Father William Tate Mother Elizabeth Hester write to James Tate 7920 Woodland Hills Lane Fairfax Station, Va. 22039 These people may be able to help you =================================== Subj: [Fwd: Elizabeth Tate] Date: 97-06-30 22:48:42 EDT From: tlmart@cascade.net (Tony and Linda Martinson) From: JohneP4596@aol.com To: tlmart@cascade.net Subject: Elizabeth Tate Hi Linda - I have John Burnett, Jr., son of Isaac, with a first wife named Elizabeth Tate. Nothing on her except I had d. ca 1825, but didn't have anything about Patrick County. However, if you don't already have it, I have all ten of their children. If you need them, let me know. Have been researching the Burnett line for my wife and have a pretty good tree built up, mostly through the benefit of June Bork's book. John E. Price :-) =================================== Subj: [Fwd: Burnett & Tate] Date: 97-06-30 23:14:38 EDT From: tlmart@cascade.net (Tony and Linda Martinson) Nyla- Look at what has been sent already. This list is wonderful! Linda tlmart@cascade.net From: DAllen5178@aol.com To: tlmart@cascade.net Subject: Burnett & Tate John Burnett b. 1761 Hanover, Va D. 1827 Patrick Co. Va. Marr. 1775 in Hanover Parents were Isaac Burnett and Sara Small Elizabeth Tate b. 1765 Hanover, Va. CHILDREN John Jr. b. 1787 Hanover, Va Cornelius b. 1789 Hanover, Va. Jane b. 1791 Hanover, Va. Mary Burnett b. 1793 Crawford b. 1795 Hanover, Va Nancy b. 1797 Hanover, Va Elizabeth b. 1799 Hanover, kVa. Permelia b. 1801 Hanover, Va. Judith b. 1803 Hanover, Va. Mahala b. 1805 Hanover. VA This was submitter to the Family History Center by Florance A. Burnett 6611 Old Hwy 67 Cabot, Ar. 72023. You may want to write her. ================================== Subj: Re: Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Mailing List Date: 97-06-30 20:36:16 EDT From: SDunham153 To: NCreed1 Please add me to your mailing list. I think I already responded but just in case you didn't receive it, this is to verify. Thank you very much I downloaded the info from David, Cgaunt pages. It was great. Sue ================================== FOLKS, Thanks to suggestion and procedures from DP6195@aol.com, hopefully, you aren't receiving the 4 page address listing. I can provide a copy of the mailing list if anyone needs a copy.= Nyla =================================== The end of this compilation.