Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 20:17:22 -0400 (EDT) From: NCreed1@aol.com To: 102125.3126@compuserve.com, NCreed1@aol.com Subject: Comp 136 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc 4 Jul 1997 Happy 4th of July to Everyone: From time to time, as many of you have discovered already, I have difficulty numbering the compilations. I usually use a number twice; but this time, I skipped number 136. So here it is. The next compilation that I send will be 141. Be sure to check out all our compilations at this address: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt Nyla CREED DePauk San Diego CA ============================ Subj: Re: Comps 136-138 Date: 97-07-04 16:57:12 EDT From: cgaunt@umich.edu (Christine E. Gaunt) To: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Kevin K. Stephenson) CC: NCreed1@aol.com (Nyla Creed DePauk) On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Kevin K. Stephenson wrote: > Chris- > Can you send me a copy of compilations 136, 137, and 138? You don't > have them posted yet, and I'm short one, but the numbering got messed > up, and I need to see which one I'm short. Thanks! > Hi, Kevin and Nyla, I find I don't have compilation 136. I remember there were two 135's, but I think we had skipped 134, so one of them became 134 and the other stayed 135. Nyla, can you check to see if you sent out a 136? And if you didn't, do you want me to renumber the compilations, or just skip 136 and put in something like "Oops, we misnumbered. It's a good thing that pobody's nerfect!" I have comps 137-140 in the etc directory, just not linked on the main page, so Kevin, if you need them, you can go to: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/etc/comp137.txt http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/etc/comp138.txt http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/etc/comp139.txt http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/etc/comp140.txt and you should be able to get them. Nyla, let me know about 136. Thanks, Chris ============================ Subj: Re: Comps 136-138 Date: 07/05/97 To: cgaunt@umich.edu Chris, I'll send one out today. I'll make it 136. Then it should be 141 after that. Right? How can something so simple become so difficult? Actually, I'm just trying to keep you and Kevin on your toes. Have a Happy 4th of July. Nyla ====================== Subj: Re: changing email addresses -- THANKS! Date: 97-07-04 14:39:04 EDT From: AUTOPROFIT Would you mind changing the email address for my receipt of the compilations from autoprofit@aol.com to dkrainh20a@aol.com I am splitting my email addresses to segregate my various interests. Makes emailing and storing emails easier this way. Debbie Anderson Researching TURNER, RAINWATER, HISAW etc. ========================= Subj: Re: Comp 140 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 07/05/97 To: MAStalling In a message dated 97-07-04 08:44:46 EDT, you write: << What does VIA mean??? >> VIA, as I think about it, indicates "by way of". Like, going to California via Route 40. When I do a search I never get the SURNAME of VIA. I get travel info or "common name". My grandmother's uncle (Capt William Turner) said his mother's people were Dutch. Not sure what that meant. Netherlands? German? He said that his father's family was English. I can't get beyond Capt Turner's grandfather Via. His mother Naomi Angeline VIA was d/o William VIA. This is a real stumper. Nyla ========================= Subj: Re: Comp 140 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Date: 97-07-04 17:55:47 EDT From: MAStalling Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Now if I could just find some background on my Turners I'd be happy! Michelle ============================== Michelle: Just wish I knew more about the VIAs. Tell us what you can about your TURNERs. Hopefullly, someone can help you. Nyla ============================== Subj: Burnett request Date: 97-07-04 10:59:33 EDT From: N4JED Subj: Burnett descendants Date: 97-07-04 10:57:51 EDT From: N4JED To: DHONBERGER File: BURNETT.TXT (78239 bytes) DL Time (14400 bps): < 1 minute Donna, You asked for it so here it is. I have attached the first 7 or 8 generations of the descendants of John Burnett as an ASCII file. You should be able to read it with any word processors. It totals about half of the 90 pages of descendants I have for this line. (Anyone else in our group wishing this, drop me an email and I will send it as an attached file). Let me know if you have problems with it. Can send more if you wish... David n4jed@aol.com ========================= Subj: Re: BURNETT-TURNER-ROSS-VIA-TATE-PHILPOTT-THOMAS-ETC/ETC List Date: 97-07-04 06:19:22 EDT From: destiny741@aol.com (Destiny741) Hi Nyla! Just checking in to say hello and see how your move went. Are you adjusting to San Diego?? My sister and I are getting closer on our Dunbar line. At least we found 3 siblings to our ancestor we are searching for. I noticed you have Ross in your line? I am looking at the possibility that our Joseph or William Dunbar b ca 1745 married a Mary Ross (or so my 2nd great Aunt had said), she also said she was the daughter of an Alexander Ross. (This would be SW VA). But we are not sure if this is correct. Don't you love geneaology?? Hope all is well with you! Changes are good! Amy in Indy :) ======================== FOLKS: Any ROSS descendant able to tie into the the Alexander ROSS with a daughter named Mary who married a DUNBAR? Sure would like to help Amy with this. She and I have exchanged DUNBAR info. As soon as I can get time, I want to exchange information on the CREEDs and HARVEYs from Monroe Co VA/WV with her, too. Nyla ======================= Subj: James Burnett and John Mack/Sarah Burnett, Pittsylvania County, VA Date: 97-07-04 07:35:36 EDT From: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Kevin K. Stephenson) Nyla---For those few of us who are descended from the Pittsylvania County, VA, Burnett's, I found this on a Family Tree Maker Website. John Mack married Sarah Burnett3, (George Burnet2/Thomas Burnet1)who was James Burnett's(1720- 1735/1797)sister. This James Burnett was the father of James Cunningham Burnett, who later moved to Shelby County, Kentucky. James C. Burnett's first child, Pryor Burnett, with his first wife, Keziah Pulliam, was my third great-grandfather. This line is the same one which was discussed in the book "Burnetts and their Connections" by the Corkills in Texas. >From the Family Tree Maker Website for the descendants of John Mack: Descendants of John Mack Generation No. I 1. John1 Mack was born 1740-1750 in Scotland, and died Nov 1816 in Maury Co, TN. He married Sarah Burnett 9 Sep 1766 in Prince Edward Co, VA, daughter of George/Thomas Burnett. Notes for John Mack: JOHN MACK, FIRST WHITE SETTLER TN MAURY COUNTY, TENNESSEE Wm. Mack's father was (with but little doubt, if any) named John Mack. The inscription on the slab of native limestone which covers the grave of this man, in a deserted private cemetery on a knoll, now in a cattle pasture, reads thus: Sacred to the memory of/JOHN MACK / The first of his name in this state / Born in Scotland in 1710/Died in the 71st year of his age / An honest man, the noblest work of God. Out on U.S. Hwy. 31, Columbia to Pulaski and about a half-mile from the gravesite, is a marker erected in recent years by the Tennessee Historical Commission. The marker reads: 'First Settler. One-half mile east is the grave/ John Mack, who reportedly settled here in 1776 or shortly after. A blockhouse and stockade were / built around the spring a few yards beyond the cemetery. Other / relatives and descendants are / also buried here." It is likely that the marker was erected after 1948 the year Judge Hugh Lee Webster (retired) of Columbia discovered the forsaken graves. In 1957 Judge Webster led a movement in vain to persuade the Tennessee Historical Society to purchase the land around John Mack's settlement--thought now to be the earliest in Middle Tennessee--for a historical park. According to research done by Judge Webster, there was, before 1780 in the vicinity of the spot that was soon to be John Mack's gravesite, a settlement known as "Walker's" shown on a very old map now in Williamsburg, Va. This settlement is credited to the famous Dr. Thomas Walker, leading member of the Loyal Land Company, which in 1749 was granted the right "by the Virginia Council to survey and enter 800,000 acres of land on the west waters." Dr. Walker explored for years thereafter in the southwest wilderness of Virginia and what is now northwestern Tennessee, and as far as the Cumberland River in an area now the upper half of Tennessee, but then claimed by both Virginia and N. Carolina. (It was Dr. Walker who in 1750 discovered the "cave gap" in the Appalachian Mountains and named it Cumberland Gap for the king's son, Duke of Cumberland. Did he also name the Cumberland River?) Judge Webster's research uncovered in the National Archives of Washington, D.C., the record of John Mack's Revolutionary War service in the First Virginia State Regiment, and the payment of a bounty before March 15, 1779. In one place he says the bounty was paid in the sum of $150 cash. Judge Webster believes that John Mack then travelled southwestward along the route Dr. Walker had followed earlier and settled near Walker's furthest penetration, on land still belonging to the Cherokee Indians. The spot was long known as the Cave Spring because the water, flowing out of the limestone bluff used to run about 40 to 60 feet before it emptied into a cave at the foot of the "graveyard" hill. (Today, the spring has a pumphouse over it.) It was about 1948 that Judge Webster discovered this historic spot for himself and began further investigations regarding John Mack, b. 1710, Scotland. He talked with many old-timers, one of whom was Bedford Matthews, then 82 years of age, "the first offspring of W.R.H. 'Little Bob' Matthews to be born after the Civil War, and named Bedford Leroy in honor of General Nathan Bedford Forrest, under whom his father fought four years." Bedford Matthews, all his life a resident of the community around Walker's and Hopewell, recalled stories told him of the early settlement; how his great-grandfather John Mack built a blockhouse at the cave spring, known as Walker's, and enclosed the spring and branch inside a palisade; how, after other settlers came in, all the neighbors would run to the palisade and blockhouse when Indians would attack them. According to Judge Webster, "The graveyard was legally laid off by the owners of the land, Robert Mack, a son, and James Mack, a grandson, on the 22nd day of June, 1831," when they deeded the land for "the consideration of establishing a place that shall always be free for and consecrated to religious worship as hereinafter is more fully expressed." The conveyance was in special trust that the three-acre plot be used for preaching and religious worship free for the use of all denominations of Christians, especially the Reformed or Reforming kind." (This is not the deed which set up a place of worship on 40 poles of McCain's land, as that indenture was made Dec.20, 18 7 between Eli McCain, owner of the land, and Wm. Mack, John H. Zolicoffer, Adam R. Alexander, trustees.) It is interesting to note that, according to Judge Webster's writings, this land around the cave spring and John Mack's gravesite was once a part of the grant made by North Carolina before that state gave up claim in 1789 to territories now in Tennessee. In 1811 John Mack's heirs got quit claims from John Davidson of part of an entry of 1784, and from an attorney for the heirs of Elijah Robertson. Naturally, John Mack did not have title to the land when he settled on it, because it was in an area not yet ceded by Cherokee Indians to either the U.S. or North Carolina. (From "Crosthwaite Chronicles") JOHN MACK, THE IMMIGRANT In a small grove of trees on a knoll down a lane, one-half mile east of a historical marker, near McCains in Maury County, Tennessee, is an old family cemetery. Here are found the graves of John Mack, the immigrant from Scotland, and his wife, Sarah. The historical marker reads: "FIRST SETTLER - One-half mile east is the grave of John Mack, who reportedly settled here in I 781 or shortly after. A blockhouse and stockade were built around the spring a few yards beyond the cemetery. Other relatives and descendants are also buried here." The above date is one example of incorrect information concerning John Mack, as will be shown later. The inscription on John Mack's grave stone reads: "Sacred to the Memory of John Mack The first of the Name in this State. He was born in Scotland in 1740 Died in the 74th Year of his age An honest man the Noblest Work of God" Adjoining the above grave is the grave of Sarah Mack. The stone marker is broken, but the inscription reads: "Sacred to the Memory of Sarah the only Wife of John Mack She was born in Pennsylvania and Died in the 83rd Year of her Life A Pious Woman" Two family traditions concerning John Mack of Scotland are: (I) he bartered for Sarah, as his bride in Pennsylvania, in exchange for tobacco ("0 Brave Pioneer," Sara Sprott Morrow, 1975); (2) he was a doctor (Pete Nance, Shreveport, Louisiana, Letter, 17 Aug 1975). No proof of these stories has been found. Further, this John Mack is not connected with the Mack family associated with Joseph Smith, the Mormon leader. The earliest legal record found for John Mack, the Scottish immigrant, was his marriage bond in Prince Edward County, Virginia, in 1766. The following is a copy: Know all men by these presents that we John Mack and Sarah Burnett of Prince Edward County are held and firmly bound unto said Lord King George the Third by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King Defender of the faith, and for the sum of Fifty Pounds current money to be paid to our Lord King, his heirs and successors to the which payment will truly be made. We bind ourselves, our heirs, executors and administrators jointly and severally firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals this second day of September 1766. Whereas a marriage is intended to be solemnized between the said bound John Mack and Sarah Burnett the condition of this right obligation to is such that if there be no lawful cause to obstruct the same, then this obligation to be void else remain in full force. Clerk's name illegible John Barksdale John Mack John Mack was still a resident of Prince Edward County, Virginia, in 1771 when he was sued by one Henry CaIdwell. His brother-in-law James Burnett came from Pittsylvania County, Virginia, to appear as a witness for John. When John Mack won the case, he was ordered by the court to pay James Burnett's costs "for two days and once 100 miles." This amount to be equal the value of 350 pounds of tobacco. (From the files of Dr. J.C. Burnett, Kankakee, Illinois) By 1772 John Mack was living in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. He paid 25 pounds for 140 acres of land lying on both sides of Sugartree Creek in May 1772. The land was purchased from Dutton Lain, and James Burnett with John and James Cox witnessed the deed. (Pittsylvania County Deeds, Book 3, pp.6-8) John Mack received a bounty of $150 for his military service in the 1st Virginia State Regiment. He served in General Muhlenburg's Brigade from 2 February to 15 March 1779 during the Revolutionary War. (Military Records, National Archives, Washington, D.C., No.25 M) On 3 October 1780 John Mack sold the 140 acres along Sugartree Creek that he had bought from Dutton Lain in 1772. Benjamin Croley purchased it for 60 pounds. Both he and Mack lived in Pittsylvania County. Sarah Mack was a cosignor with her husband. (Pittsylvania County Deeds, Book 6, p.92) In the 1790 North Carolina census John Mack is found on the same page as his son James Mack in Salisbury District (Rockingham County). This proves the historical marker in Maury County, Tennessee to be incorrect. On 10 August 1792 John Mack of Rockingham County, N.C., bought for 80 pounds a tract of 300 acres of land north of Sandy River in Pittsylvania County, Virginia, from Simon Adams of the same county. Witnesses were: Gilbert Burnett and George Hawkins (brothers-in-law of John Mack), John Mack, Jr., George Cunningham, and John Wilson. (Pittsylvania County Deeds, Book 9, p.265). We believe John Mack moved back to Pittsylvania County, Virginia, after 1792. In 1794 he witnessed a deed between his brother-in-law, Henry Burnett, and Mary Shields in Pittsylvania County. He is not shown in the North Carolina census for 1800. On 15 October 1805 John Mack, Sr. was surety for the marriage of his son Constantine Mack in Pittsylvania County. Some time between 1805-1810 John Mack, Sr. came to Tennessee. It seems likely he may have come to Rutherford County, Tennessee, with his son William in the spring of 1808. Possibly he came to Wilson County, Tennessee, which adjoins Rutherford, with William Burnett, Sarah's nephew, before June 1807. By 1810 John Mack appears in early court records in Maury County, Tennessee. On 5 February 1813, Washington L. Hannum and others in Davidson County, Tennessee, sold to John Mack, Sr., John Mack, Jr., James H. Mack, and Constantine Mack of Maury County, Tennessee, for $380 a tract of 95 acres on Little Bigby, part of Elijah Robertson's original grant (Deed Book E., p.264. Reg. 7 April 1814, Maury County, Tennessee). Some sources suggest the Macks were squatters on this land earlier. John Mack, Sr. drew up his will on 31 May 1813. (Will Book 8. p.6, Maury County). Misreading of his will caused speculation that there were children not named therein. We secured a copy of the original paper on which the will was written from Box M in the Maury County Courthouse. This exact copy resolved the confusion about the "other children." On 8 January 1814 John Mack (Sr.) was the witness in Maury County to the will of Thomas Parker. Some time later in 1814 John Mack, the immigrant, died in his 74th year. WILL OF JOHN MACK, SR., 31 MAY 1813, MAURY COUNTY, TENNESSEE In the name of God Almighty, amen. I, John Mack of Maury County, State of Tennessee, being in common health and full exercise of my reason, but calling to mind the uncertainty of Life and certainty of Death, and being desirous while in that state to settle my worldly affairs, do make and publish this my last will and Testament, Revoking and declaring void all others that I may have made heretofore. First, when it shall please God to call my Spirit hence, I request that my Body may be decently Buried at the discretion of my Executors hereafter mentioned, hoping in Christ that they may be joyfully reunited at the last day. Secondly, it is my will that all my just debts be paid in case I should owe any. Thirdly, all my household furniture and plantation tools of every kind together with my part of the tract that I live on at present lying on the waters of the Little Tombigby, I leave to my loving wife Sarah Mack for and during the term of her natural life to use, sell, or dispose of the personal goods as she may have occasion without account, and to take the profits of the land. And after her decease my will is that my son Constantine Mack shall have and hold the above mentioned half of Land to him and his Heirs forever; as also all the residuum of the afore mentioned Personal chattles on the condition that he takes care of his mother. Fourthly, all my stock of horses, cows, and hogs together with all and singular my rights, credits, dues, and lands coming from or being in the State of Virginia, as also all the cash of which I may die possessed, I leave and bequeath to be equally divided between James Mack, John Mack, Jr., Polly Murphy, Robert Mack, William Mack, James H. Mack, and Sally Nance my other children. And I do hereby appoint Robert Mack and William Mack the Executors of this my last will and Testament. In testimony of which I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 31st day of May 1813. John Mack Andrew Boyd James Boyd Copied from the original will found in Box M in loose papers in Maury County Courthouse, Columbia, Tennessee. Also recorded in Book B. Maury County Wills, p.6. MACK HEIRS APPOINT AN ATTORNEY TO SELL VIRGINIA PROPERTY 1 NOVEMBER 1816, DEED BOOK 21, pp.33,34, PJTTSYLVANIA CO. Know all men by these presents that we, James Mack, John Mack, Nathaniel Murphy and Polly Murphy, Robert Mack, William Mack, James H. Mack, Constantine Mack, and Sally Nance, heirs and divesees of John Mack, Sr. decd. of the County of Maury and state of Tennessee, for good and legal causes us unto moving, have and do by these make and appoint James Blair, of the County of Pittsylvania and State of Virginia, our true and lawful attorney for us in our name as the heirs, has offered to settle and adjust all matters in controversary between us as heirs of the said John Mack, Sr. decd., and the heirs and legal representatives of Champion Napier whether in their own name or as representatives of said Napier, decd., or whether against our ancestors John Mack, decd., or against any attorney of his as far as claims or controversies may relate to any contracts between our said ancestor and the Champion Napier, decd., and for us in our names to convey a certain tract of land situated in the said county of Pittsylvania sold by our ancestors to said Napier by Deed. of general warranter or otherwise as said contract may require, and for us in our names to demand and receive all monies due us and to give and receive receipts and acquittances in and concerning the same so as to effectuate a full and complete settlement of all said disputes agreeable to justice and the true intent of said father John Mack, Sr., decd., or by any attorney of his legally appointed for him and in his behalf and as such we recognize George , deceased, one certain tract or parcel of land lying in the County of Pittsylvania and of Virginia aforesaid, and on Sandy River and bounded by the following lines to wit: Beginning at a white oak stump below the falls of Sandy River, thence north thirty degrees, east three hundred and twenty poles crossing two branches to a red oak, thence the said line south seventy degrees, east ninety-one poles crossing a branch to a white oak, thence south five degrees, west thirty4wo poles to a red oak, thence on Sandy River bank down said river as it meanders to the beginning, which tract or parcel of land aforesaid containing by estimation three hundred acres, be the same more or less. James Blair, attorney for Mack's heirs aforesaid, doth forever warrant and defend unto said heirs and representatives and the aforesaid heirs forever to have and to hold quiet and peaceable possession forever uncontested with all and singular together with ways and minerals, heredetaments and appurtenances thereunto belonging forever. In Testimony whereof I, said James Blair, attorney for the heirs and representatives of John Mack, deceased, aforesaid have hereunto set their hands and affixed the seal the day and year above mentioned. Signed, sealed, and delivered in presents of: Samuel Harvey, William (X) Morris, Drury Blair, James Mack, John Mack, Nathaniel Murphy, Polly Murphy, Robert Mack, William Mack, James Harvey Mack, Constantine Mack, Sally Nance By James Blair, their attorney in fact At a court held for Pittsylvania County the 21st day of July 1817. This indenture from James Blair, attorney, to John Napier, David Napier, and Samuel Napier was presented in court and acknowledged by the said James Blair, attorney as aforesaid, to be his act and deed and ordered to be recorded. Teste Will Turnstall, Clk. (source: "TO HOPE, TO LABOR, AND SO TO LIVE-Descendants of John Mack (1740-1814), With Some Allied Families: WILSON, McKNITT, BREVARD, POLK, REESE, HUDSON, BURNETT" c. 1980 Mary P. Engels,1024 Hicky, Forrest City, Arkansas Research (B.J. Miller): p.592 of Maury County Cemeteries, per Audrey J. Massey(jeangen@ro.com) says that Mack Cemetery is south on Pulaski Pike one mile south of McCains, turn east on farm lane; locked gate at beginning of lane. Cemetery is behind barn about 1/4 mile from pike on John Cothran place. DAR Patriot Index, Vo. II has him b.c 1750 Scotland, died 1 Nov 1816 TN m. Sarah Burnett and was a soldier for VA. Notes for Sarah Burnett: Sarah Mack died at the age of 83. (Source: "War of 1812 Soldiers of Maury Co, TN" by Garrett) Kevin K. Stephenson 1114 Mississippi Street, #4 Lawrence, KS 66044-3188 (913)865-1586 e-mail: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu homepage: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html =================================== The end of this compilation.