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Notes for de Solney

We are researching the ancestors of Alured de Solney, who died circa 1234 in Newton, England. These notes might relate to him, his ancestors, or his relatives.

c 1170, in the time of Henry II, Aluredo de Soligni witnessed a deed. [1]

c 1211 Ralph de Argosis granted the manor of Newton in England to brother Alured de Solenneio. They were sons of Alured and Joan. [2]:

Final concord made "in curia domini Regis apud Cadom' [Caen], in the sixth year of King John [1204-5], before William Crassus, tunc senescallus Normannie, Samson, abbas Cad[omi], John de Alencon, Ralph Labbe, Geoffrey de Cortona, Roger Talebot, and other Justices there, whereby Ralph de Argosis conveyed to Alured de Solenneio, his brother, a portion of his inheritance in the land which belonged to Alured his father and Joan his mother, namely, the manor of "Nuetona, in Anglia" [Newton Solney], with a meadow "apud Bawe" [Bayeux], keeping for himself the lands in Normandy. (Every.)

"Ralph de Argosis gave Newton Solney to his younger brother Alured de Solenneia. John de Solney, the last male descendent of this line, died in 1390. The manor and lands were divided among perhaps as many as four co-heiresses: Alice wife of Sir Thomas Stafford, Agnes wife of Edmund de Appleby, Ermentrewe wife of Robert (sometimes called Ralph) Lathbury, and Margery wife of Sir Nicholas Longford." [3]

In the time of Henry III, the prior of Rapendon made quit claim to Norman de Soleni, Dominus of Neuton, for land in Neuton. [4]:

Agreement between Reginald, Prior of Rapendon, and the Convent, and Norman de Soleni, Dominus de Neuton, whereby the Priory quitclaims to the said Norman the park of Newton, common of pasture, cutting of trees, right of way, in return for which the latter grants to the Priory a part of Swarthlinghay wood; also the Priory grants to him the tithe of one mill belonging to the manor of Neuton, tithe of fishery within Neuton manor for an annual rent of 4s.; with the tithe of hay of his demesne of Neuton, for which the said Norman gave two perches in Longedoles and Scorthedoles. Witn. John de Stapenhull, Geoffrey de Stanton, Ralph de Tykenh', Walter de Bereford, William Balle of Rapendon. Temp. Hen. III. Fine Priory
seal. (Every.)

In the time of Henry III, Ade Pichard of Neuton granted a garden to Norman de Soleni, mil. [5]:

Quitclaim from John Pichard fil. Ade Pichard of Neuton to Norman de Soleni, mil., of a garden in the vill of Neuton, extending from the path leading to the church up to the River Trent, and half an acre lying on Derlestowe. Witn. John de Chandoos, Nicholas de Seymor, Robert de Stanton. Temp. Hen. III. (Every.)

1253 "For Alured' de Sulini. Order to the sheriff of Lincolnshire by a writ de computate to cause Alured de Sulini to have 20 m. of the king's prest." [6]

1253 19 July. Portsmouth. For Alured de Suleny. The king has pardoned Auredus de Suleny 10 m. of 20 m. in which he is bound to the king of a prest. Order to the barons of the Exchequer to cause the same to be quit thereof. [7]

1304 Alured de Solney granted land to son William de Solney, clerk. Grant dated June 11. [8]:

Grant from Alured de Solny, miles., Dominus de Neuton super Trentam, to William de Solny, his son, clerk, of a messuage and a bovate of land in the vill and territory of Neuton super Trentam which Robert Broun held from him in villeinage in the vill of Neuton, with a messuage called "Le Holdelauton," lying between Le Schercesti and the messuage of John le Carter, whereof one head abuts on Brounuslowe and another head on Le Causey, with half an acre of meadow lying between [the meadow] of the Prior of Repindon and his own meadow; with seven acres of land in the field of Neuton [boundaries given in detail]; with all kinds of fishery through all his demesne water in Trent and Douue "cum omnimodis ingeniis," with an annual rent of 6*. qd. from a messuage and bovate in the same vill. Rose rent. Witn. Robert Abel of Tykenhale, Peter de Melbon, William Pichard of Newton, Robert, clericus de Wynsul, Richard Someter de Neuton. Dat. M. a. F. of St. Barnabas [11 June], 32[?] Edw. I. [1304]. (Every.)

1324-25 Alured de Solney of Derbyshire was named in the Gascon Rolls:

1324 On August 6, a grant of power to receive the oaths to array knights and other equivalent men was made to R[oger Northburgh], bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, to receive oaths from: Robert de Harle and Fulk de Pembridge, in Shropshire ; Thomas de Pipe and John de Hinckley, in Staffordshire ; Thomas Hastings and Roger de Aylesbury, in Warwickshire ; Hugh de Menyll' and Alfred de Solney, in Derbyshire ; and Richard de Hoghton and John de Haverington, in Lancashire ; [9]

1324 On August 6, Request to bishops to liaise with Ralph de Camoys and Robert de Kendal, constable of Dover Castle and warden of the Cinque Ports, whom the king has assigned to keep safe all the ports and coastal areas and maritime lands ... for the defence of the church, realm and people, since the king of France is assembling a great army to invade the king and his duchy, to harass the king, his lands and his people both by land and by sea. The keepers have been ordered to apply to the bishop for information in the business when they need it. ... Hugh de Menyll and Alfred de Solney, arrayers in Derbyshire; [10]

1324 On December 22, Order to select and inspect 200 of the strongest and most sufficient men ... and arm them with better haketons, bacinets, gauntlets of steel or whalebone and other suitable arms, ... because the king of France has wrongfully disinherited the king of his duchy of Gascony ... Hugh de Meynell and Alfred de Solney in Derbyshire, except for the town of Derby, 200 foot soldiers out of 400; [11]

1324 On December 23, Order to array knights, esquires and other men-at-arms ... who are not being retained by the king or by anyone else, from those that they previously inspected and arrayed, to be at Portsmouth by 17 March, to go with the king in his service to Gascony, at his wages. They are to certify the king of the names of the men, and of all that they have done in the matter under their seals by 2 February. As far as the rates of the men's wages are concerned, from the time they leave their county ( region ) until their arrival at Portsmouth, the king will decide and let them know at an early date. ... Alfred de Solney and William de Russell in Derbyshire for 20 men-at-arms; [12]

1325 On July 10, Order to warn, with all haste, all those who are arraying troops to stop the array of them, as the king no longer has need of those foot soldiers that he ordered to be arrayed and brought to Portsmouth by 2 August to go in his service to the duchy of Aquitaine, because of the peace treaty between him and the king of France. He has high hopes that a good peace will ensue. Those that have already been arrayed are to be armed and ready at the king's command. ... Hugh de Meynell and Alfred de Solney in Derbyshire; [13]

1325 On September 30, Order to arrayers of foot soldiers to continue supervising the array of the men so that they are always prepared, equipped and armed according to their estate to come when the king will make known, while not harming or injuring the people. By other letters to them the king ordered them not to bring the men that they had selected and arrayed at the day and place previously ordained to go to Gascony, because peace is being made between the king and the king of France over the disputes that existed between them, and he did not wish to trouble his good people. ... [14]

1347 On August 10, John, son of Roger Sauenay of Newton granted land to Robert, son of Dom. Aluredi de Sulney, knt. [15]:

Grant from John fil. Rogeri Sauenay of Neuton Sulny to Robert fil. Dom. Aluredi de Sulney, knt., mil., of ten shillings' worth of rent from his lands in Neuton Sulny. Witn. Roger Saueney, Thomas Saueney, William Pichard, Robert Sulny, etc. Dat. Sat. a. F. of St. Laurence [10 Aug.], 21 Edw. III. [1347]- (Every.)

1368 A grant was made to Alvred de Sulney, knight, for rent out of the manor of Newton. [16]:

Grant from John de Bollehawe and Thomas de Bildeston, chaplains, to Alvred de Sulney, knight, of a rent issuing out of the manor of Newton Sulny. Dat. M. a. F. of St. Hilary [13 Jan.], 41 Edw. III. [1368]. (P. R. O. b. 2778.)

John Charles Cox summarized the early history of the Chapelry of Newton Solney. [17]:

Newton Solney was held in the reign of Henry III. by Sir Norman de Solney, under Robert de Ferrers, and by his son Alured, under Edmund, Earl of Lancaster. The succession of heirs was Sir Norman, Sir Alured, Sir William, and Sir Alured. Sir Alured de Solney, who died about the beginning of the reign of Richard II., left a son, Sir John, who died without issue, and two daughters. Of these co-heiresses, Margery became the wife of Sir Nicholas Longford, and Alice of (1) Sir Robert Pipe (2) Sir Thomas Stafford and (3) Sir William Spernore. About the reign of Henry VIII, this manor was purchased of the Longfords by the Leighs.

The Manorial tenures of Newton Solney of Derbyshire listed the following [18]:

Date Name
1232 Sir Norman de Solney
Hen. III Sir Alured de Solney
Edw. I Sir Norman de Solney
Sir Alured de Solney
Sir William de Solney
Edw. III Sir Alured de Solney
Sir John de Solney
Rich. II Sir Nicholas Longford


Footnotes:

[1] F. M. Stenton, ed., Documents Illustrative of the Social and Economic History of the Danelaw from Various Collections (London: Oxford University Press, 1920), 398, [InternetArchive], [HathiTrust].

[2] Isaac Herbert Jeayes for Sir Henry Howe Bemrose, Descriptive catalogue of Derbyshire charters in public and private libraries and muniment rooms (London: Bemrose & Sons, 1906), 220, item 1753, [GoogleBooks], [HathiTrust], [InternetArchive].

[3] The National Archives of the United Kingdom Catalog, citing papers deposited in Derby Local Studies Library and given the reference number DL 19, [UKNationalArchives].

[4] Isaac Herbert Jeayes for Sir Henry Howe Bemrose, Descriptive catalogue of Derbyshire charters in public and private libraries and muniment rooms (London: Bemrose & Sons, 1906), 220, item 1756, [GoogleBooks], [HathiTrust], [InternetArchive].

[5] Isaac Herbert Jeayes for Sir Henry Howe Bemrose, Descriptive catalogue of Derbyshire charters in public and private libraries and muniment rooms (London: Bemrose & Sons, 1906), 221, item 1757, [GoogleBooks], [HathiTrust], [InternetArchive].

[6] Henry III Fine Rolls Project, Fine Rolls of Henry III, [Fine_Rolls_Project].

[7] Henry III Fine Rolls Project, Fine Rolls of Henry III, [Fine_Rolls_Project].

[8] Isaac Herbert Jeayes for Sir Henry Howe Bemrose, Descriptive catalogue of Derbyshire charters in public and private libraries and muniment rooms (London: Bemrose & Sons, 1906), 221, item 1758, [GoogleBooks], [HathiTrust], [InternetArchive].

[9] The Gascon Rolls Project (1317-1468), GSR C61 36, 54.11, [Gascon].

[10] The Gascon Rolls Project (1317-1468), GSR C61 36, 53.10, [Gascon].

[11] The Gascon Rolls Project (1317-1468), GSR C61 36, 169.31, [Gascon].

[12] The Gascon Rolls Project (1317-1468), GSR C61 36, 173.3, [Gascon].

[13] The Gascon Rolls Project (1317-1468), GSR C61 38, [Gascon].

[14] The Gascon Rolls Project (1317-1468), GSR C61 38, 13.26, [Gascon].

[15] Isaac Herbert Jeayes for Sir Henry Howe Bemrose, Descriptive catalogue of Derbyshire charters in public and private libraries and muniment rooms (London: Bemrose & Sons, 1906), 221, item 1759, [GoogleBooks], [HathiTrust], [InternetArchive].

[16] Isaac Herbert Jeayes for Sir Henry Howe Bemrose, Descriptive catalogue of Derbyshire charters in public and private libraries and muniment rooms (London: Bemrose & Sons, 1906), 221, item 1760, [GoogleBooks], [HathiTrust], [InternetArchive].

[17] J Charles Cox, Notes on the Churches of Derbyshire, Vol. 3, "the Hundred of Appletree and Repton and Gresley" (1877), 450, [InternetArchive], [GoogleBooks].

[18] Joseph Tilley, The Old Halls, Manors and Families of Derbyshire, Vol. 4, The Hundred of Repton and Gresley (1902), 171, [GoogleBooks], [HathiTrust].