Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:54:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Nyla Creed To: 102125.3126@compuserve.com, 72650.74@compuserve.com, ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu, AudraeM@aol.com, bbaughan@swva.net, BLACK@globe.com, burnett@kaizen.net, cdorian@accessone.com, cebel@success.net, cgaunt@umich.edu, ChickFlet@aol.com, chlamy@acpub.duke.edu, CHRISTIEFC@aol.com, connie.spaw@CBIS.COM, CW1210@aol.com, davidcon@microsoft.com, dfullam@albany.net, dmonreal@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us, DP6195@aol.com, ekirkman@swva.net, GDBurnette@aol.com, hoffman@gate.net, IRXP500@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU, j.@lgcy.com, jcross@metronet.com, jeffhatfield@mail.del.net, jlampkin@selu.edu, JMarieCox@aol.com, Knights5@aol.com, Lee_Turner@vapower.com, lrd@ornl.gov, marockem@minot.ndak.net, mcclaran@ionet.net, mildred.collier@bgamug.com, mlsaps@mcn.net, N4JED@aol.com, ncreed@pop.erols.com, newbet@cy-net.net, Pat-Chesney@hobby.easy.com, PWard@the.express-news.net, PWhetzel@aol.com, RAinIA@aol.com, Ramaus@ix.netcom.com, rhobson@sdcoe.k12.ca.us, ross@interramp.com, russt@flex.net, shauck@d.umn.edu, TARichmond@aol.com, tturner@mail.state.tn.us, turner@ccsi.com, turner@mind.net, waddie@earthlink.com, WittBates@aol.com, wjarrell@phoenix.phoenix.net, anhughes@palmnet.net, dkw@fastlane.net, turners@valu-line.com Subject: Compilation #28 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via 10 August 1996 Hello to Everyone, A warm welcome is extended to the new subscribers. This is our 28th compilation. Thanks to everyone for sharing information on their line. Chris Gaunt's home page where the archives are stored: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt Nyla Creed DePauk =============================================== Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:57:26 -0500 X-Sender: pward@the.express-news.net To: NCreed@erols.com From: Paula Ward Subject: Exonia, Exoney, Excony, Onie, Exena... Cc: ekirkman@swva.net, hamrick@aa.net Hello, Nyla, Just thought I would report back on what I found about the name "Exonia" and variations thereof. The name "Exonia" is found in two of my family lines, the TURNERs and the INGRAMs, both of eighteenth- and nineteenth-century Franklin County, VA, and I know it's found in other families in Southwest Virginia counties. Chuck Hamrick (e-mail: hamrick@aa.net), a frequent contributor to VA-Roots, has expertise in linguistics and offered the following remarks: "The name "Exoney" is likely to be a misnomer for the Latin "Exonia" ["ehks-sone-ee-ya"] which was used in its adjectival form, "Exonian", to describe a native or inhabitant of the city Exeter in Devonshire. "This name may provide a valuable clue to the origin of a progenitor. "This name would not have been encountered by someone reading the Bible or the Classics in search of a name, but would have been in common use by people of the city of Exeter and the area roundabouts." Thank you, Chuck. ---------- I also did a search on the internet for Exonia, and quite a number of homepages for Exeter popped up on the list, including Exeter University in Devon, England. It was apparent that an "Exonian" is one who is "from Exeter." At the top of the list was the homepage for the Exeter Chamber of Commerce, and when I clicked to open the page, "Exonia European Transport, Ltd." appeared on my screen. All of a sudden I had this picture in my mind of our ancestral family boarding a ship called the "Exonia" -- goosebumps. Wonder if there was a ship by that name? And did ships bound for the colonies in the early 1700s embark from...among other ports...Exeter? What I find intriguing is one TURNER family tradition that says the family originally came from Cornwall--not very far from Devon--just over the county line. We do have another theory, shared by Eunice Kirkman, that Shadrach TURNER was b. ca 1690 in Scotland, the son of John TURNER of Clan Arrachor (formerly Lamar). If they were originally from Scotland, it's still possible that they might have boarded a ship in Exeter, Devonshire. Food for thought. Paula Paula Kelley Ward PWard@The.Express-News.Net or PWard@Trinity.Edu Trinity University, San Antonio TX PH 210/736-7432 FAX 210/736-7433 SW VA: KELLEY, PETERS, INGRAM, TURNER, SMITH, WILLIS, PAYNE NY, Ireland: MOONEY, MULLEN/MULLIN, DURKIN, WALDRON Germany: HECKMAN, BOHN, JAECKEL, MANDLER I must have lived previous lives. I can't imagine getting this far behind in one life! ======================================================= From: "Ann N. Hughes" To: "'Nyla Creed DePauk'" Subject: Letter re. Shadrack Turner Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:38:42 -0400 To all: I am posting this letter which I received sometime ago from a distant cousin who is a genealogist and lives in Basset, VA. She added a note saying, "This lady died in 1991, I have no idea who would have her files. Business is closed." She did not comment to me on the accuracy of the information contained in the letter. I looked in the only book I have on Scottish Clans [Robert Bain's Clans & Tartans of Scotland, Great Britain: William Collins Sons & Co., Ltd. 1968]. A MacFarlane Clan is listed. A sentence from the second paragraph, "Duncan, 6th chief of the clan, obtained the lands of Arrochar from the Earl of Lennox, and in 1395 he acquired many of the adjoining lands by marriage." This sentence appears to tie in with some of what is in Mrs. Rainaud's letter. I submit this to see if anyone had done any research that would confirm or repudiate this information. Ann Hughes The Ship's Chandler Wilmington, Vermont 05363 802-464-5082 Private Coat of Arms Research Library - Over 5000,000 Names 32 Countries June 29, 1989 [Addressed to a distant cousin of mine} Following the information sent to me of your branch of the Scottish Turners listed in Burke's General Armory, and it is this Coat of Arms that is being sent to you. Although many Turners here in the US do use the one depicted in the drawing you sent, it would not be the authentic one to be used by descendants of Shadrach Turner. >From information on file obtained from another Shadrach descendant, your ancestor Shadrach was the son of one John Turner of the Clan Arrochar of Scotland, descended on the paternal side from Edward Turner, on the maternal side from McFarlan of Arrochar. McFarlan was a Chieftain of an ancient Celtic people who populated the island of Scotland centuries before the arrival of William the Conqueror. It is believed that the original Coat of Arms was adapted to indicate both the paternal and the maternal families. The Catherine Wheels in the paternal pales indicate much fighting and suffering in the cause of the church, the guttes de sang in the maternal pales indicate the color red denoting the chieftain, formed in drops denoting honorable warriors. You will be able to further interpret this Coat of Arms by consulting the Special Report included. Although wars, conquests, and economic conditions have changed boundaries, modified name spellings and altered languages, a coat of arms MEANS A NAME. A coat of arms was as easily read in earlier times as a name on a mailbox is today. Originally, arms were used to identify a family, group, or clan, and to distinguish friend from foe; THAT IS WHY NO TWO ARE ALIKE! No snobbery was connected with them, but some people like to think so! Colors and designs were chosen to show status, allegiance, personality, or profession; and to reflect traits or traditions associated with the original bearer The colorful arms for the name Turner in Scotland is as distinctive as a fingerprint, and tells a spell-binding tale. An early alliance with the Clan Arrochar, throuoh marriage with a chieftain's daughter, guaranteed that early Turner of peace and prosperity in this strange and harsh land. This would be enherited by his children. Those very early days were concerned with survival, with holding the land for the Normans, and with defending the holdings against attack by rival clans. These early Turners were called on, as well, to lead their men in crusades against the infidels in Europe . Their sons earned their sheilds and further prospered by being awarded more lands on their return to Scotland, which in turn must be defended against the original clans who attempted to wrest it back. In later years, those early Norman/Celtic families were forced to renounce their Catholic faith and swear allegience with the Church of England. Although they fought bitterly to retain their own religion, they were also involved in so many fights among the clans that they could not remain a cohesive group against the Crown and lost the war with England. Considered as the most intelligent of the "Emerald Isles" the Scot people wisely surrendered in order to hold their land. You mention a Robertson in the family tree. It is most interesting to note that the Turners and Robertsons were traditionally allies throughout those early times and may have been allied up until the immigration to North America. I personally research each name in my library of over 500,000 names from 32 countires. Not being a genealogist, I do not trace family trees, but do use all information sent! I pride myself in DOING THINGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY! INDIVIDUALLY AND BY HAND... therefore, I can stand behind my guarantee: SATISFACTION OR YOUR MONEY BACK! /s/ Marcia W. Rainaud ========================================================= Hi Paula, Thank you for writing to me again about "Exonia". My grandmother's grandmother was Naomi Angelina Exonia (Via) Turner. One of Naomi's sons was Captain William Turner. He wrote a family history and stated his mother's people (Via) were Dutch, and his father's were English. You've really got my curiosity working on Exonia. Nyla ====================================================== Date: 08 Aug 96 23:41:24 EDT From: "Philip A. Turner" <72650.74@compuserve.com> To: Nyla Creed Subject: Compilation #27 - Burnet Hi! This is in reply to the message about a Scottish connection for Turners. I am quoting from 'The book of Ulster surnames' by Robert Bell. "Turner is an occupational name, from the Old French tornour, ... a lathe-worker. ... In the Lowlands of Scotland the name derives from the 'lathe-worker' origin and was common in Aberdeenshire and Kirkcudbrightshire. According to George MacDonald Fraser, there were also Turners, one of the lesser riding clans of the Scottish Borders, based in Liddesdale, 'the cockpit of the Scottish Middle March'. Many belonging to the riding clans sought refuge in Ulster when James VI 'pacified' the Borders and destroyed the social system there in the decade after 1603. In the Highlands the name of the trade was borrowed into Gaelic as tuairnear, giving rise to the name Mac an Tuairneir, 'son of the turner'. The Macinturners, later MacTourners and Turners, were a sept of Clan Lamont who descended from a fugitive Lamont who settled on Loch Lomondside and became a turner." So, not all Scottish Turners are of the Lamont clan. It is true though, that some of the people in the Scotch-Irish immigration during the 18th Century did come from Scotland rather than Northern Ireland. It would be hard to sort them out unless you knew which ship they came on, and where the ship was from. Phil Turner ========================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 15:51:26 -0400 From: ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu (Ann Avery Hunter) To: ncreed@erols.com Subject: SAMUEL TURNER - CULPEPER CO. (fwd) Reply-To: ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu > ========== Begin forwarded message ========== > From: turners@valu-line.com (Steve Turner) > To: va-roots@leo.vsla.edu (Multiple recipients of list) > Subject: SAMUEL TURNER - CULPEPER CO. > Date: Sat, 10 Aug > > Looking for information on Samuel Turner born in Culpeper Co. VA in 1758. > He later moved to Clark Co. KY and then to Ralls Co. MO. > > Thanks, > Steve Turner (turners@valu-line.com) > > > > -- Ann Avery Hunter Richmond, Virginia ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu ===================================================== X-Sender: dkw@mail.fastlane.net Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 17:40:38 -0400 To: ncreed@erols.com From: dkw@fastlane.net (David Williams) I am searching for information on ancestors and descendants on the following James Turner family of North Carolina: HUSBAND: James TURNER BORN: 1773 PLACE: North Carolina DIED: Oct 1812 PLACE: Anson Co, NC MARR: 1793 PLACE: FATHER: unknown MOTHER: unknown NOTES: 1773 - BORN: 1789 - DELEGATE: Montgomery Co., NC. 1790 - U.S.CENSUS: Montgomery Co., NC. 1793 - MARRIED: 1800 - U.S.CENSUS: Montgomery Co., NC. 1810 - U.S.CENSUS: Anson Co., NC. 20 JUL 1812 - WILL: wife Lucy; sons, Henry Marshall Turner, William James Turner, James S. Turner; daughters Wincy, Martha Ann, Sally L., Elizabeth N.; Anson Co., NC, Bk.2, Pg.170; DPL R929.37567 C296a. OCT 1812 - PROBATE: will, Anson Co., NC. WIFE: Lucy MARSHALL BORN: 10 Feb 1777 PLACE: Virginia DIED: 27 Dec 1845 PLACE: Anson Co, North Carolina FATHER: James MARSHALL, son of John Marshall d. Brunswick Co., VA MOTHER: Ann HARRISON, dau of William Harrison d. Brunswick Co., VA NOTES: 6 FEB 1776 - BORN: Ruth Parker Shelton DAR#420469 10 FEB 1776 - BORN: Agnes Williams Sparks DAR#603646 10 FEB 1777 - BORN: Virginia; 1979 Carolinas (Union Co.) CGS XVI, 2, Fall, p.39, Mrs.R.E.Heath. 1793 - MARRIED#1: James Turner. AFT 1812 - MARRIED#2: R.B. Smith. - MARRIED#3: Thomas Waddill. 27 DEC 1845 - DIED: Anson Co., NC. CHILDREN: 1. NAME: Winifred Harrison TURNER BORN: 29 Aug 1797 PLACE: Brunswick Co, Virginia DIED: 28 Jan 1858 PLACE: Ansonville, Anson Co, NC BUR.: PLACE: Concord Cemetery, Anson Co, NC SPOUSE: John Spillman KENDALL Dr., son of William Kendall and Margaret Spellman MARR: 30 Mar 1815 PLACE: NOTES: 29 AUG 1797 - BORN: Virginia; tombstone and census. 1813 - entered Salem Female Academy, Anson Co., NC; parent listed Lucy Turner (mother); Dallas Library R975.6753 M491h. 30 MAR 1815 - MARRIAGE: John Spillman Kendall; from Agnes Sparks #12. 23 SEP 1850 - U.S.CENSUS: Anson Co., NC; Cedar Hill, pg205, ln12; age 52, born NC. 28 JAN 1858 - DIED: tombstone, Concord Cemetery, Anson Co., NC. 2. NAME: Henry Marshall TURNER Dr. BORN: 1800 PLACE: Montgomery Co, NC DIED: 1871 PLACE: BUR.: PLACE: family cemetery, North Carolina SPOUSE: Caroline MCNEILL MARR: PLACE: NOTES: 1800 - BORN: Montgomery (later became Stanly) Co., NC; Dallas Library R975.6753 M491h. 1871 - DIED: tombstone, family cemetery near the Albemarle-Ansonville stretch of highway 52; located by Paul Green and Malcolm Fowler. 3. NAME: William James TURNER 4. NAME: James S. TURNER 5. NAME: Martha Ann TURNER 6. NAME: Sally L. TURNER 7. NAME: Elizabeth N. TURNER David Kendall Williams AIA 9966 Dresden Dallas, TX 75220 =================================================== The end of this compilation.